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416 pages, Hardcover
First published October 27, 2015
Joanna gets up at six in the morning to start a ninety-minute hair care regimen, and Felicia wears designer high heels every day even though they always get caught in the sidewalks. Joanna and Felicia are the ultimate gender conformists. Neither of them has the right to talk about feminism until they stop posting pictures of themselves in bikinis.
I nod. “So is Inez bi or what?”
“Last I heard, she identifies as heteroflexible.” Derek laughs again.
“So she’s a step up for me. My last relationship ended because it turned out his idea of bi meant ‘screwing every other guy within a hundred-foot radius and then lying about it.’”
I pause with my drink halfway to my mouth. “Wait, what did you say?”
“Oh, it’s nothing bad. Heteroflexible means she mostly likes guys, but not always. She thinks it’s more accurate for her than bi.”
"Come hang out with us, T!" Pete calls. "We're having a support group meeting for the formerly genderqueer!"
'Besides, who the hell are they to talk? Joanna gets up at six in the morning to start a ninety-minute hair care regimen, and Felicia wears designer high heels every day even though they always get caught in the sidewalks. Joanna and Felicia are the ultimate gender conformists. Neither of them has the right to talk about feminism until they stop posting pictures of themselves in bikinis'
Why do they always have to dress that way? Gretchen doesn't. Neither does Ebony. It's like Joanna and Felicia are trying to be as girly as humanly possible
"You couldn't tell about Eli, so you were checking him out hard-core for, like, ten minutes."
I'm the only one of my roommates who's white. Ebony and Felicia are both black, and Joanna is Vietnamese. I felt a little weird at first, like I was boring next to them. Then I remembered that I bring in the LGBTQIA diversity angle, so I was still contributing
Lies We Tell Ourselves was one of my favourite books of the year last year, and when I found out that Talley's next book would be about a girl who is a lesbian and a character who identifies as genderqueer, I was incredibly excited. Unfortunately, I was more than a little let down by What We Left Behind, and the reason for that lies with the character of Toni.
There are two main characters, Toni and Gretchen, but What We Left Behind focusses mostly on the genderqueer character, Toni. Toni started off okay and all, and I was interested in reading about someone who identifies in such a way, and also about someone who is still wondering which label or labels they want to assign themselves, but by the end Toni made me want to tear my hair out.
Toni was incredibly preachy, and when reading from Toni's point of view I felt like I was reading an essay. There was a lot of info-dumping and none of it felt particularly natural, as info-dumps rarely do, and on top of that Toni was a self absorbed prat who didn't deserve Gretchen. I understand/acknowledge/agree that Toni was going through a lot of difficult things relating to gender and identity and sexuality, but those things can't really be used as an excuse here. Whenever Toni had a chapter (i.e. throughout most of the book) I was subjected to an essay about identity and genderqueer-ness and sexuality. And yes, those things need to be talked about and I'm all for representation, but if I wanted to read about them in a non-fiction format then I could have found all this stuff online.
I did, to begin with, enjoy the discussions that the characters had about identity and pronouns and language, but again, it was all put forward in the wrong way, in my opinion.
I've also read a couple of other reviews on the topic of genderqueer representation and they were interesting. You can find one of them here, which talks about how Talley doesn't do a great job of representing genderqueer people. I don't feel like I'm educated enough on that particular identity to provide much of a comment, but the review was an interesting read. I would agree that What We Left Behind seems to label genderqueer as a transitional period rather than a real identity or label.
On another note, I really started to dislike Toni when Toni met two girls and said they have no right to talk about feminism or be feminists until they stop wearing bikinis. Like. Mate. You're completely missing what feminism is about. Do you think we all have to go around in hoodies and jeans to be legit?!
And I suppose I'm going to leave the review here as I don't have much more to say. I'm disappointed, but I'm open to reading more from Talley in the future.
Now, I started off actually liking this book. I thought it was sweet how Toni and Gretchen met across the dance floor at their prom. Then when they find out they’ll be going to different colleges, I was a bit “Meh.” Maybe I’m just not into that trope. I mean, it’s REALLY not the end of the world, guys. And do you really expect to go everywhere together in life, even if that means sacrificing your own ambitions and independence just so you can still see each other every day? But still, It was whatever. Not that bad. Then they go to college, and that’s where everything goes downhill, and where Gretchen meets Carroll, who I deem the most awful character I have ever had the misfortune to know. Remember the character who says a ton of transphobic things? This is him. And seriously, he is so awful. Despite being gay himself, he just reminds me of the typical sexist, cis-gendered dude-bro that we all strive to avoid at all costs. So you’d think that with his own sexuality he’d know better and come with his own complexity as a character. Nope! This is not the case. At all.
The worst part is that Gretchen, for whatever reason, actually LIKES HIM, despite the fact that he pretty much insulted her partner right off the bat:
“But I can already tell Carroll’s going to be a good friend.”
Um, not really??? He’s kind of a huge douche. And I’m sorry, did he not just say, “What, is your girlfriend one of those hard-core bra-burning lesbo feminazis? Cause you don’t seem like that type at all.” Not to mention he just made fun of Toni for not using she/her pronouns and repeatedly said he knew how to spot a “lesbo.”
All together now: UGHHHHH.
Oh, but this isn’t the end of Carroll saying incredibly offensive things. Not even close. Because pretty much everything out of his mouth for the rest of the novel is so bafflingly ignorant, and he especially continues to be hostile and extremely transphobic in regard to Toni:
- “Your girlfriend’s a man?”
“So, what, your girlfriend’s an it?”
(OH MY GOD, why does Gretchen like this guy again?!)
“your shemale ex”
"So...Are you into that? Are you one of those girls who's into the whole guys-wearing-panties thing, and vice versa? Like, does it turn you on?"
“SHE AND HER BAT- CRAZY TRANNY GIRLFRIEND ARE ON A BREAK!”
Part of me suspects that the reason he hates Toni so much (besides the fact that he’s just an ass) is that he latches onto Gretchen pretty quickly when they meet, since he doesn’t have anyone else (GEE, I WONDER WHY). So he hates any moment when he realizes that Gretchen isn’t just his, and he quickly becomes entitled, which also makes Carroll an extremely immature character. Not to mention the fact that he is also a sexist douche toward Gretchen too, sexualizes her bisexual identity (ew), and accuses her of being trans:
“You’re such a little fifties wife already. Hey, if she becomes a guy it’ll be legal even in, like, Russia, right?”
“I knew you had an inner tramp.” (In response to Gretchen saying she had 8 girlfriends in 5 years).
(Because Gretchen said she’s not a girly girl) “Does that mean you’re kind of trans, too, like Toni?”
Toward the end of the book, Carroll and Gretchen go out and get drunk, and Carroll makes Gretchen dance with this other girl to get her mind off Toni. Well, one thing leads to another, and out of frustration at Toni, Gretchen sleeps with Carroll. But then Carroll gets mad at her over this and makes it seem like it’s all her fault when HE’S the one who told Gretchen to dance with a random girl to forget about Toni, and HE’S the one who said “If you won’t dance with her, I will!” And then he blames HER for what happened, which leads him to say this:
“What I remember is you dancing like a maniac in that club, hitting on everything that moved, like some bi nympho or something.”
So rather than own up to his actions and partial responsibility for what happened, Carroll instead paints Gretchen as the evil bisexual who threw her sexuality everywhere even though that’s not at all what happened. Great example of biphobia, along with every other way that Carroll is the most problematic character ever. And the worst part is that he makes Gretchen feel like she’s the one who should feel bad and who should feel responsible for what happened, and she goes on believing it for the rest of the novel. She even misses him and wishes things could go back to normal between them. Like… girl, don’t miss him! Do not even feel remotely bad about what happened, and don’t let him make you feel like you’re the bad person. Just be glad you’re rid of that piece of garbage excuse for a human!
Besides Carroll being literally the worst character ever, the other character I couldn’t stand in this story is Toni. Now, it’s fine to be confused about your identity and to explore different options. But she takes it to another level by acting like she knows so much more about gender than everyone else when it doesn’t seem like she herself has a freaking clue. I felt like a lot of the time she was trying to force habits just so she could be ~alternative and above gender~, not necessarily because that's how she naturally felt. Like, the amount of times throughout the novel that she spent focusing on and agonizing over pronouns is unbearable. And it didn't seem like that was the most important thing in the grand scheme of things, but she convinced herself that it was and kept going back and forth over it, trying "they" and then trying "ze" and "hir," and half the time she'd end up slipping and using "she" pronouns for other people anyway. Yet at the same time, she would lecture everyone else on the gender binary and pronouns, as if she was the expert on it all... when she wasn't perfect either! News flash: it's called ASKING what peoples' pronouns are. And, you don't have to use gender-neutral pronouns for everyone, especially if they already identify as "he/him" or "she/her"!
Side note: I also thought this book did a terrible job at properly going into what being genderqueer means and representing it. Many times, characters talk about what it means to be genderqueer, often treating it as being indecisive and not making up one's mind yet, like what Carroll says here:
“The site said a lot of genderqueer people are just kids who haven’t made up their minds yet whether they want to be a boy or a girl.”
NOPE, that is literally not what it means at all. Genderqueer is not a phase. It's not an in-between point until you figure out whether you're a boy or a girl. Genderqueer, in simplest terms, means that one's gender does not fit in with socially constructed norms of gender. In terms of "boy or girl," it can mean being both or neither. It can mean existing anywhere on the spectrum in between masculine and feminine. That being said, it would probably be a great fit for Toni, since it doesn't assume any specific label (other than genderqueer), it doesn't enforce anything, and it allows for variation and ambiguity (what with Toni not wanting to 100% identify as either a girl or boy)
The other irritating trait about Toni is that she’s so focused on distancing herself from the gender binary and being mad at others for not understanding, yet she goes out of her way to judge and criticize others who are within the binary, which?? Just like you wouldn’t want to be judged for being outside the binary, why would you judge others who do identify within the binary? You can’t help how you identify, and even if you don’t like the binary, some people feel comfortable in it. Let them! That is honestly so counter-productive to look down on someone because they fit the feminine role, and it just reeks of being snooty and feeling superior over others, not to mention it’s misogynistic. If you want to know what I’m talking about, Toni basically hates her two roommates for being cisgender. Sure, they’re not perfect, but attacking them because they’re feminine does not make you the better person:
“Why do they always have to dress like that?… It’s like Joanna and Felicia are trying to be as girly as humanly possible. They might as well be wearing signs that say "We’re Cisgender, and Don’t You Forget It.”
Oh my god, WHY DO YOU CARE?? Why do you go out of your way to judge them and deem yourself superior?! You’re literally so obnoxious
Oh, but wait! In case that wasn’t bad, then Toni shames her roommates and claims they can’t be feminist if they wear bikinis:
“Joanna and Felicia are the ultimate gender conformists. Neither of them has the right to talk about feminism until they stop posting pictures of themselves in bikinis.”
You. Did not. Just say that. Oh, my god. Do you… do you actually know what feminism is? Probably no more than you know what being transgender is! I know you’re having a hissy fit with this whole thing about how no one understands you and how you think your girlfriend is so much prettier than you and is probably better off without you in New York, wah wah wah… but shaming other women for wearing bikinis and feeling good about themselves is not the answer!
For these reasons, I just couldn’t stop seeing Toni as a brooding, ugly, immature bully throughout this whole novel. And a lot of times, I honestly just found her to be pretty pathetic. The way she latches onto Derek and wants so badly to impress him by telling him she’s transgender. How she claims that she hasn’t let her friends at school influence her, yet literally just based her decision to break up with Gretchen around what she thought Derek would do, and even continued to hang onto his every word and basically said, ‘Wait, that’s NOT what you would do?’ (Oh my god, Toni, make your own damn decisions!) And then when Derek called Nance his best friend, Toni just couldn’t handle it:
“Wait. Best friend? Nance is Derek’s best friend? What does that make me?”
Dear lord, are we in elementary school now?! -__-
Toni and Gretchen are a couple like no other. They don’t fight or have conflicts. Everything is perfect. Then things start to change drastically. Toni and Gretchen are in different states for their first year of college. Gretchen and Toni don’t want to be another statistic of couples not working on for long distance. Toni identifies as genderqueer and prefers not to use pronouns to define gender. Gretchen doesn’t really understand Toni’s GQ status, but supports Toni. As Toni begins to find a place in the LGBTQ+ community at Harvard their relationship begins to crumble.
The premise of What We Left Behind seemed like it would’ve been this thought provoking novel that introduced what it meant to identify as genderqueer. I went into this novel hoping to learn something, but I feel like I’ve learned absolutely nothing. I don’t know even know exactly where to start with my thoughts on this book because all I feel is anger. I absolutely DISLIKED this novel and I’m really disappointed by what this novel set out to do and how it went at a different crossroads. There will be spoilers in my review because it’s the only way I can express the reasons I didn’t like this novel.
This novel opens up with Toni at the Homecoming dance. It was a big day for T who has been granted the ability to wear pants to an all-girls’ school. Toni’s story received media coverage that has become front page material. It’s a big day and all eyes are on Toni. Gretchen is the new girl at school who hasn’t officially started going to school yet, but was forced by her parents to attend in hopes of making friends. Toni and Gretchen instantly feel an attraction to one another and the night ends with a kiss.
“If anyone could fix the world’s problems, it just might be this girl with the red hair and the top hat.”
The beginning of Toni and Gretchen’s story is very sweet and I instantly liked this brief glance at the characters in the prologue. Toni and Gretchen both had a very distinct voice and the novel was off to an okay start. Instantly I saw the writing was juvenile. The writing has no solid voice or flow. It’s your simple run-of-the-mill writing that offers nothing to quote or shout from the top of my lungs screaming about the lyricism spread between the pages. As the story progresses, Talley’s writing becomes more problematic. The juvenile writing style being mixed with a few comments interjected throughout the novel contradict everything Talley wants to establish. I supported Talley strongly at first. It’s great that a NA novel is focusing on genderqueer characters and their relationships with those around them, but Toni was the opposite of a genderqueer character. Toni strongly started out with genderqueer views, but wasn’t sure if the views of a GQ were something T also believed in. As the story progresses, it seems as though Toni was never GQ in the first place, but someone who couldn’t find the proper label and needed to find one. That’s the problem with this novel- it’s all about labels. Toni who hates labels with a passion also needs to put people into labels and find what label T also fits in. The whole story is a contradiction of what the story stands for and it baffles me.
Toni and Gretchen’s relationship is also a huge problem for me. I liked how they started and they genuinely seemed like a good couple. They seemed to balance each other out.
“I never imagined that being one half of a whole could make you feel more whole all by yourself.”
By page 28, shit is already hitting the fan when I caught that Toni is under the impression that they will both be in the same city, Boston, for college. Immediately I was like, “The synopsis is misleading. It’s all a lie.” This was starting to bother me because a false synopsis is just as a bad as a spoilery one. On page 36, Gretchen drops a bomb on a Toni the day before they leave for college and tells T that she is going to NYU.
What?!?! How is it okay to keep such a big secret from your significant other? The DAY BEFORE THEY LEAVE FOR COLLEGE and you are just going to spring the fact that you are going to another state. That’s not okay. Toni claims that the relationship with Gretchen is one where their souls are laid out bare to one another.
In fact, once this happened I instantly began to dislike Gretchen. It becomes clear that this couple isn’t perfect and they have their fair share of problems, which I liked seeing, but not in this way.
I’m dedicating a whole section to the evolution of Toni’s gender. At the beginning of the novel, Toni does not use gender pronouns and even Gretchen refers to Toni as T instead of she, which is something I really liked. As Toni starts to make friends and finds a place in the Harvard LGBTQ+ group, a lot of conversations and debates begin. Toni never corrected the group when they started to refer to Toni as he, but Toni eventually tells them that T doesn’t use pronouns. A big debate sparks where Toni immediately learns another friend used to only use they pronouns to refer to people. Toni places Pete in a box on the “trans spectrum” and this novel immediately started to crash and burn for me. Toni begins to worry and overanalyze pronouns. Toni brings up a good point about he and she being unnecessary because they were fabricated by humans, but I find myself not agreeing with Toni’s presentation of thoughts. Toni’s feelings on pronouns felt forced and I couldn’t bring myself to care. Once Gretchen finally goes up to Harvard for a Halloween party a bomb is dropped that Toni doesn’t identify as genderqueer, but gender nonconforming. This book contradicts itself too much. I get that it’s supposed to be about changing and growing apart, but Toni changes ideas and values every second. It seemed like every time a new chapter was introduced Toni had a whole new outlook after a debate. Toni is a wishy-washy person. I’m all for change and growing, but every change Toni made felt forced and unsure. Toni, who originally couldn’t fathom the thought of wearing a bind, wore one on the night of Halloween. After running into T’s drunken roommate Ebony she makes a comment about Toni being a pretty girl and getting rid of her boobs. Toni is immediately offended, which I totally get, but Toni has the problem of blowing everything out of proportion. The world is against Toni and Toni is the victim. Suffice to say it became obnoxious. Toni forgets that people are human and say offensive and sometimes hurtful things. I think that this is Toni’s problem. Toni forgets humanity in the grand scheme of things and only worries about gender and labels. Toni forgets that people are human and not a gender. Toni becomes so obsessed with gender that T no longer seems human. Toni becomes a person who only ever thinks about gender and doesn’t seem to do much else than overanalyze this topic. Eventually Toni begins to use “they as a gender-neutral pronoun” and it becomes painstakingly clear that Toni doesn’t know who to be or stand for. By the next chapter, Toni has begun using ze and hir pronouns, which are made-up pronouns, that are used as non-conforming gender pronouns. I’m incredibly annoyed and unsure of Toni as a character. Toni is becoming unsure of whom Toni is as a person and it is starting to irritate me. I get that Toni needs to find out who Toni is as a person, but it becomes really aggravating when it seems that Toni isn’t a person at all. Toni is someone just hanging onto everyone else hoping to latch onto to the right person and pick up the perfect personality trait. Audrey (Toni’s sister) asks Toni if the people T has become friends with are peer pressuring Toni into becoming more transgendered. Toni immediately gets defensive, but it’s something that I’ve started to wonder because it seems like every debate spurs Toni to become somebody new in the next chapter. In chapter fifteen, the header that identifies who POV changes from Toni to Tony. A huge change and also Tony is now gender variant. Tony also decides to pose a guy for the interview at Oxford, which goes against Toni’s original views of no gender. Tony takes a flight to Washington, D.C. to talk to T’s mother and confesses that Tony identifies as a boy. Tony reveals to his mother (he has also started using gender pronouns at this point),
“When I was a kid I used to lie in bed at night and pray that when I woke up in the morning, I’d be a boy.”
which was a huge reveal that I was not expecting. Tony has been repressing the urge to be a boy and he couldn’t accept it. This is pretty heartbreaking and I feel for Tony, but I just can’t get behind the execution of this novel. Tony’s repression of sexuality is the cataclysm for a big reveal, but why was the constant battle to be something in a certain label so far from the truth? It felt like Talley just wanted there to be a gender for Tony and Tony couldn’t be Tony unless he was a boy. Naturally Tony is freaking out because he isn’t sure if he is a boy or not and he just told his mom he was. I get that Tony is overanalyzing this situation (yet again), but if he didn’t identify as a boy then he wouldn’t have told his mom that. Tony just needs to realize that.
Gretchen identifies as a lesbian and when talking to a friend she makes at college, Carroll, she makes comments that has my mouth flapping about.
“I can’t help it. The word straight makes me shudder.
It’s not like I have a problem with straight people or anything. I’ve always had tons of straight friends. It’s just being straight seems so… obvious. So conventional. It’s never felt like me.”
I get that Gretchen doesn’t identify as straight, but how is saying that being straight is conventional is okay? I don’t get it. This double standard really bothers me because it constantly is brought up in spurts throughout the novel. Gretchen is the more likable character out of the couple, but she isn’t the best and she pisses me off. Gretchen and Toni eventually break up, which is no surprise because it was a matter of when. After being depressed for a while, Carroll forces her to go out and they end up having sex, which results in Carroll loses his virginity. Carroll is pissed and moody about the whole situation. I already hated Carroll because he is crass and says the crudest things, but his treatment towards Gretchen was harsh. I understand Gretchen needing to find solace and as they say sex is the best medicine. She should’ve just found somebody else especially since Carroll is a boy and she is so vocal about being a lesbian. I want to address Gretchen’s roommate Samantha, who in my opinion is an awesome friend. Gretchen never gave Samantha the amount of respect she should have because she was a genuinely good friend who gives good advice.
For a novel about being so pro-equality for genders and nonconforming genders, this novel has its fair share of racist and ignorant comments.
“The only thing you need to know about race and politics is that white people suck.”
The reason why this is offensive is because no matter what race you were to put in the place of the word white (seriously do it with different ethnic groups) and it is still offensive. I don’t support hate to any race even whites because if it seems okay to hate on just one race then it seems okay to younger people to hate on them. This novel while in a college setting is a novel I know younger readers will pick up because they want to learn about this topic or understand themselves if they connect to these characters, but having brief comments like this isn’t okay. Not only are there a few racist comments, but I found myself offended by a comment made by Toni towards two roommates.
“Neither of them has the right to talk about feminism until they stop posting pictures of themselves in bikinis.”
I’m sorry, but isn’t feminism equality for both men and women. If these girls want to post a picture in a bikini they can because it’s their body and if they are confident in it then who cares. Toni’s comment really pissed me off because it’s just another one of those double standards that this book seems to be full of. Something that also really bothered me was this brief section about Harvard not being predominantly white. All these characters that we never got descriptions of are suddenly black and different ethnic races, which are great because diversity, but it felt like Talley just dropped that into say, “Look how diverse this book is. It’s not just featuring white transgenders, but everybody.” I’m all for that, but don’t do it in a way that is just casually mentioned 293 pages in to make a statement.
This novel seems like it would be about not being in labels, but like I mentioned earlier in my review, Toni needs to place people into labels. The problem with these labels is that everything became a stereotype. This novel felt like one big stereotype. Character that is different from everybody else falls in love with perfect girl. Only this is what happens after that and it’s an interesting take, but the characters all need to fit into little boxes. There’s an over flamboyant gay best friend, a Goth roommate, a lesbian with a penchant for cooking, transgendered characters who T immediately needs to figure out if they identify as boy or girl, a burly lesbian who has slept with everybody, and a club that stands for a good cause, but doesn’t focus on it. These are ALL stereotypes. This novel goes against everything it was marketed as.
For me, What We Left Behind didn’t do anything for me informatively. I really wanted to learn something, but I didn’t. This book was just all about the drama, labels, and the most hypocritical character I’ve encountered (Toni/y) and all I can say is read at your own discretion. Don’t expect to be informed or moved, but I recommend considering it if you are interested or affected by the topic. As for me, fuck this book.
That I'm definitely somewhere on the transgender spectrum, and that even though I've spent hours upon hours upon hours reading websites and thinking about every possible angle of this stuff, I still haven't found a label that feels exactly right for me?
The truth is, I don't even like the word genderqueer that much
"I'm actually not really sure about genderqueer as a label," I said. "It isn't perfect, but the thing is, no label feels perfect."
"...I talked to these lawyers at the ACLU, and they asked me if I identified as genderqueer, because if I did, they'd put it in the argument. It would be the first time they'd had a genderqueer plaintiff in a case like mine. They were all excited about it. I didn't know much about genderqueer as a term, so I looked it up...But anyway, at least I got a semi-acceptable label out of the thing. So when I started coming out to people online and stuff, genderqueer was the word I used."
I decided to try using gendered pronouns full-time as an experiment...I don't have to stop halfway through a sentence and figure out what word to use. You forget how much simpler life is when you can just talk without thinking about it.
Also, no one's ever actually told me where most of the other guys are on the trans spectrum-they might be totally cisgender for all I know-and it kind of stresses me out not knowing how to categorize them