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Longtime manuscript editor and Chicago Manual of Style guru Carol Fisher Saller has negotiated many a standoff between a writer and editor refusing to compromise on the “rights” and “wrongs” of prose styling. Saller realized that when these sides squared off, it was often the reader who lost. In her search for practical strategies for keeping the peace, The Subversive Copy Editor was born. Saller’s ideas struck a chord, and the little book with big advice quickly became a must-have reference for copy editors everywhere.



In this second edition, Saller adds new chapters, on the dangers of allegiance to outdated grammar and style rules and on ways to stay current in language and technology. She expands her advice for writers on formatting manuscripts for publication, on self-editing, and on how not to be “difficult.” Saller’s own gaffes provide firsthand (and sometimes humorous) examples of exactly what not to do. The revised content reflects today’s publishing practices while retaining the self-deprecating tone and sharp humor that helped make the first edition so popular. Saller maintains that through carefulness, transparency, and flexibility, editors can build trust and cooperation with writers.



The Subversive Copy Editor brings a refreshingly levelheaded approach to the classic battle between writers and editors. This sage advice will prove useful and entertaining to anyone charged with the sometimes perilous task of improving the writing of others.

195 pages, Kindle Edition

First published March 16, 2009

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Carol Fisher Saller

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Honors for Saller's children’s books include Kirkus Best, Bank Street Best, Horn Book Recommended Verse, NCSS/CBC Notables, the Carl Sandburg Award for Children’s Literature, the Midland Authors Award for Children’s Fiction, and Chicago Public Library’s Best Teen Fiction.

A professional manuscript editor for many years at the University of Chicago Press, Carol is also author of the book and blog The Subversive Copy Editor and contributing editor to The Chicago Manual of Style. She lives in Chicago.

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Profile Image for Beth.
130 reviews14 followers
June 25, 2010
This is a fun and witty book -- however, for anyone with significant editorial experience, it's probably less copy editing guide and more pep talk. Unfortunately, after reading it, I discovered that I couldn't point to many specific tips or tools I gained along the way. (I had a stack of stickies with me at all times while reading and had planned to put them on any page with great insights I could apply at work. I used two.)

Now if you're looking for a fellow editor with whom you can share a few inside jokes on the profession, you'll definitely find that here. The Monthly Q&As in particular made me laugh out loud. (Then I had to explain to my daughters why I was laughing ... they smiled politely and went promptly back to the pool.) In the end, though, I started tiring of all the funny asides to the reader and was disappointed in the lack of takeaways.
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Author 7 books326 followers
October 15, 2020
Looking beyond the printed page, Saller offers her experience dealing with the people issues, the organizational problems, the priority setting or the negotiating skills needed to stay sane in an editing career. In general, she's a force for greater social and emotional intelligence in the field.
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Author 5 books208 followers
March 5, 2022
مهارت ویرایش و حرفه‌ی ویراستاری بااینکه چند دهه‌ای است به ایران راه یافته و بیش‌وکم رونقی گرفته، هنوز از بسیاری جنبه‌ها موضوعی نکاویده است و می‌شود گفت در مقایسه با کشورهایی که صنعت نشر پیشرفته‌ای دارند، هنوز ما راهی دراز در پیش داریم و کارهای نکرده‌ی فراوانی پیش رویمان است. یکی از جنبه‌های این مهارت که در جامعه‌ی ما کمتر به آن پرداخته‌اند، وجه شغلی آن است؛ یعنی مهارت‌ها و توانمندی‌هایی سوای آموزه‌های علمی و ادبی و زبان‌شناختی که ویراستار در عمل به آن محتاج است و در دوره‌های آموزش ویرایش هم چندان به آن اعتنایی نمی‌کنند.

مثلاً در کمتر کلاس و کارگاه ویرایشی یاد می‌دهند که ویراستار با صاحب‌اثر چگونه باید صحبت و برخورد کند تا خرده‌هایی که به متن می‌گیرد، برخورنده نباشد و کار پیش برود. یا مثلاً نگفته‌اند کسی که مهارت ویرایش را تا اندازه‌ای یاد گرفته، کارش را از کجا و چطور می‌تواند آغاز کند و رفتار حرفه‌ای در تعامل‌های کاری ویراستارانه به چه صورت است. کمتر ویراستاری تجربه‌های شغلی‌اش از این حرفه را برای دیگران بازگو کرده و برای همین، زیروبم مذاکره‌ها و چانه‌زنی‌ها و همین‌طور قول‌وقرارها و قرارومدارهای کاری ویرایشی تا حد زیادی ناشناخته مانده است.

این کتاب با شیرین‌گویی‌ها و طنازی‌های کرول سلر و ترجمه‌ی خوب و خوش‌خوانِ فاطمه ترابی، در شناساندن وجه حرفه‌ای کارِ ویراستاری و گرفتاری‌هایی که در کار پراصطکاک ویرایش پیش می‌آید، اثری به‌غایت کارآمد و خواندنی از آب درآمده است؛ خصوصاً از این رو که به‌خلاف پاره‌ای دیگر از آثار ترجمه‌شده دراین‌باره، موضوع آن به دغدغه‌ها و گرفتاری‌هایی که ویراستار ایرانی نوعاً با آن دست‌به‌گریبان می‌شود، نزدیک‌تر است. کرول سلر با بیانی گیرا کوشیده است از پشت‌پرده‌ی کار ویراستاری و به‌ویژه اختلاف‌‌ها و اصطکاک‌های پایان‌ناپذیری که میان ویراستار و صاحب‌اثر و همین‌طور ویراستار و ویراستار درمی‌گیرد، پرده بردارد.

توصیه‌هایی که او برای تعامل سازنده و مؤثرِ ویراستار با صاحب‌اثر و همکاران پیش کشیده، به‌طور کلی سه تا است: ۱. دقت؛ ۲. شفافیت؛ ۳. انعطاف. سلر ویراستار را در درجه‌ی اول به دقت هرچه بیشتر در کارش فرامی‌خواند؛ زیرا ویراستاری کاری است که بیش از هر چیز به باریک‌بینی نیازمند است. توصیه‌ی دیگرِ‌ او به شفاف‌کردن فرایند کار است. ویراستار باید برای کم‌کردن کشمکش‌ها، فرایند ویرایش را به‌خوبی با صاحب‌اثر در میان بگذارد و در صورت امکان با او در ارتباط باشد. سومین پند او که به‌نوعی در تعامل‌های کاری مهم‌ترین محسوب می‌شود، انعطاف است. جان کلام او دراین‌باره این است که ویراستار باید بتواند در بسیاری از اوقات از آنچه صحیح و رعایت‌کردنی می‌داند، دست بکشد و با صاحب‌اثر یا همکارانش مدارا کند؛ چراکه اگر چنین نکند، روح و روان و اعصاب خود را ویران می‌کند و در این حرفه دوام نمی‌آورد.

افزون بر این سه نکته‌ی کلی، کتاب حاوی توصیه‌های واقع‌بینانه و بی‌اندازه کارسازی است که هر ویراستار حرفه‌ای بی‌گمان به آن محتاج است؛ از ریزه‌کاری‌های ویرایش رایانه‌ای و روی کاغذ گرفته تا آداب مکاتبه‌ی رایانامه‌ای و خویشتن‌داری و مداراگری و احترام‌گذاری در رابطه‌های شغلی و حرفه‌ای.


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49 reviews7 followers
January 26, 2015
Loved it. Lots of great advice for editors who need to learn to tame their inner OCD tendencies, as well as justification and advice for dealing with problems that editors face on a regular basis. It was funny, informative, and useful. Definitely a keeper for me! I can't wait to get my own copy to mark up and underline!
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37 reviews9 followers
August 26, 2017
I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that The Subversive Copy Editor is essential reading for anyone who works as an editor, either in-house for a publishing company or other organisation, or as a freelancer. As most editors will know, the mechanics of editing is often only a fraction of what's required of you in the job, with the added complications of deadlines, accurate record keeping, and navigating difficult relationships with authors occupying the rest of your time. Carol Fisher Saller covers all of these topics and more in an accessible and frequently entertaining book. It prompted me to think about my own work practices, and my strengths, weaknesses, bad habits and pet hates. And although this is a book more for editors than writers, she also includes a chapter aimed at writers that helps to break down some of the misconceptions and communication difficulties that can arise during the occasionally fraught relationship between writers and editors. I really cannot recommend this book highly enough, especially for students and those in the early stages of their career. I'm sure I'll be returning regularly to its pages for editing advice and wisdom.
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313 reviews5 followers
December 8, 2022
read for editing and proofreading class
ok sooooo this was good in theory but bad bc i had the worst busywork of my life attached to it. Pretty insightful when it came to copyediting and i actually learned some things about the process that i didn’t know before!
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118 reviews2 followers
August 31, 2011
I never imagined I would read this book the way I read a trashy novel in summer: quickly and raptly. This certainly has something to do with the fact that the topic is so closely tied to the work I do and Saller manages to impart many bits of new knowledge and insights I will immediately apply. But it is more than that. It is her witty and conversational tone that captivated me. (She must also have had an excellent editor.)

I highly recommend this for any editor - from the substantive and stylistic to the proofreader - and all those who work in almost any capacity with editors (there is even a chapter for writers). An excellent, thoughtful, and useful read.
611 reviews4 followers
July 27, 2021
The most important message Saller has for copyeditors, who can sometimes take ourselves too seriously (myself included), is to lighten up--it's just a book. This book contains humor and helpful advice, both for in-house copyeditors and those of us who freelance. I'm considering getting my own copy so I can reread it now and then. Definitely one I'd recommend to fellow editors.
28 reviews
January 6, 2019
I thought the book was interesting and some good advice, although it's less relevant to the editing that I do. The book is focused more on book editing, so I'd be curious to know what someone from that part of the editing field got out of it.
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57 reviews4 followers
February 20, 2025
Another read for class. This book was pretty good; Saller has a lot of wisdom to offer for the aspiring editor, and I enjoyed the anecdotes from her own editing triumphs and failures. I don’t feel like a learned anything groundbreaking in this book (much of her advice was common sense) but I liked it and may return to a chapter or two later.
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417 reviews18 followers
April 17, 2016
What some have said about this book is true: it's more of a pep talk than a super informative instruction manual for editing. However, it's a pep that I think editors of all sorts need to hear. Even if you already know these things, it's nice to hear an authoritative source say: calm down, be flexible, don't drive yourself crazy. One of the big things that Carol Fisher Saller combats in The Subversive Copy Editor is the strongly prescriptivist tendencies of those who write and edit--style guides were made to help us, not enslave us. She gives great advice on when to stick strongly to accepted styles and when to let things go. She also lays out guidelines that will help you make these big decisions on your own. Another solid piece of advice she lays on thick is: put value on your own time and sanity. Her big three strategies when you've hit a tough task are 1) automate, 2) delegate, and 3) reevaluate. All good tactics.

She begins each chapter with examples of questions she's received during her time working on the Q&A section of the Chicago Manual of Style website. She ends each chapter with her sometimes serious, sometimes humorous answers.

Also, can I just say how cute this cover is? It's made to look just like a manuscript, from the printed-on rubber bands and paperclips to the yellow post-it on the front.

Anyway, I would consider this a must-read for anyone involved in editing, but especially for freelancers, since she spends a lot of time addressing freelancing-specific problems.
Profile Image for Shayla Raquel.
Author 12 books137 followers
July 6, 2018
I'm so frustrated that I didn't read this book back when I first started in the editing world. Carol hits hard on all the things we go through as copyeditors, and for that, I'm grateful for such an advocate.

My favorite topics:

1. Working for the Reader, through the Writer — I cannot amen this enough. You aren't really working for the author. Think about it. You're working for the reader. It's your job to keep the reader happy.

2. Know Thy Word Processor — Seriously, folks. This thing needs to work for you, not against you. Learn how to use this bad boy in your favor so you don't pull your pretty locks out.

3. When Things Get Tough — We've all had difficult clients. Sadly, I had to learn how to deal with them through trial and error. Like I said, I should've read this book when I first started. Where is that dang time machine?

Finally, the best part of this book was Carol's wit. When a writer must tackle a seemingly dry topic, she must find a way to captivate and keep the reader's attention. Carol nailed it with humor and sarcasm, and for that, I love her.

Editors, read this right now. Thank me later.

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128 reviews20 followers
September 27, 2011
As Mamet's book on acting is to ... actors, The Subversive Copy Editor might be a necessary evil/read for copy editors. There were enough points I deemed relatable and helpful that I would recommend it to other copy editors (the freelance section was worth reading it all). Her experiences are second to none and I most enjoyed her examples of what horrors her friends have gone through with writers and fellow editors.

Beware that at times her humor is inconsistent and you won't always feel a huge connection with the author/her narration. However, copy editors unite! Read this book. It'll do you good and does make helpful points at times. And it makes you feel like you're not the only copy editor dealing with these often absurd problems. But don't expect to walk away with a bunch of excerpts to ponder over later.
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530 reviews32 followers
March 16, 2015
This was the required textbook for the first course in my Editing program. And it's a really good book, with lots of great information about copyediting practices, particularly the interpersonal ones. Editors are a supportive, helpful bunch who share a "we're here to help" ethos. The more I learn about editors and editing, the more I understand how widely misunderstood the profession and its practitioners are. This book is both entertaining narrative and source of practical information and strategy for negotiating the editing workplace, whether freelance or in-house.

Word of caution: the Kindle version has some glitchiness with word spacing (oh the irony), so if that really bothers you, get the print version.
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Author 1 book28 followers
August 11, 2009
Written with humor and insight, The Subversive Copy Editor really renewed my faith in what copyediting is supposed to be, and what it isn't. There is no such thing as a perfect manuscript. Copy Editors don't make it perfect. That's not our service. Our service is to the reader and to uphold the author's intention when writing.

An excellent book. Some of it beyond my scope, since a lot of it is focused on onscreen editing, while my job is marking copy on printouts and then making the changes onscreen. But otherwise, a great book. Some of the other copy editors at my office will be borrowing it from me.
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1,117 reviews1,595 followers
February 24, 2015
This was a fun read, and some of the tales of bad/clueless writerly behavior recalled some of my own experiences over the years. While the advice herein is good for any editor to hear, I do think this book is a little more useful for people who are new to copyediting. However, those readers should be aware that not every publisher does things exactly as Saller's does, and also that the book is already a bit dated. A new edition wouldn't be a bad idea.
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199 reviews3 followers
June 14, 2010
This book was probably professionally the single most important book I have ever read, and I am not even technically a copy editor anymore. I'd suggest that you read this if you are in publishing, or, frankly, any other field where you must manage and/or work with other people to produce a timely, error-free, and universally agreeable endproduct.

Re-read in December 2009.
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Author 31 books151 followers
April 24, 2013
The title of this book turned me off at first but once I gave in and read it, I ended up recommending it to all of our editors at Eternal Press/Damnation Books. This book has practical advice for anyone who edits for a living or is considering it. There is also a chapter included which addresses authors about what to expect from an editor once their book is accepted for publication.
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Author 16 books377 followers
May 15, 2009
Although this book is aimed at copy editors, writers will also appreciate the lessons, charm and humor here. Using anecdotes from many years of copyediting, the author provides tips for areas where flexibility (subversiveness) is allowable, and where it really isn't.
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46 reviews2 followers
September 21, 2011
While I do much more structural editing than copyediting in my work, I found the insights transferable to almost every aspect of my professional relationships. And (very important) it was highly entertaining! I sailed right through it.
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Author 53 books38 followers
March 5, 2015
Just now getting around to reading this. Very sensible, and nice there's even a chapter for writers, advising them how best to work with their copy editors. Basic motto of book is "Lighten up," which is refreshing and rare in the world of copy editing.
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Author 11 books20 followers
March 17, 2017
This is a really good companion book for those starting out in editing to sit alongside your reference books. It's full of practical advice that I wholeheartedly agree with. I wish it had been published when I was starting out. An excellent mentor in a book for students of publishing.
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51 reviews1 follower
December 5, 2017
The Subversive Copy Editor is an entertaining look at editing that provides a lot of practical advice. It is an excellent resource for editors and writers.
Profile Image for Masie Zasadny.
28 reviews
June 28, 2025
Finished this book and actually am sending it to one of the editors on my team. I hope she will learn as much about our industry’s relationships as I did the first time I read it. This was my second time through. I would give it 5 stars (it’s great for everyone in this industry!) but it is very outdated in the chapters regarding technology. Nevertheless, it stays on my shelf as a reference for our team and I will probably read it again and again throughout my career.
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144 reviews4 followers
December 17, 2017
I enjoyed this book more than I thought I would. It has a ton of advice and direction for fledgling copy editors, a chapter written towards authors who may not know what copy editors are good for, and solid general advice on business skills, communication and decorum. It is highly readable with a bit of humour and a worthwhile read for anyone in publishing.
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