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Group Reads > August 2018 - Group Read #1 - The Ruins

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message 1: by Bill (new)

Bill (shiftyj1) | 4891 comments The winner for our August group read is The Ruins by Scott Smith.

The Ruins by Scott B. Smith

Have fun. Please use spoiler tags.

Happy Reading!


message 2: by Richard (new)

Richard (richardv) | 1 comments Awesome! One of my favorite horror novels! It the hands of a lesser writer it could've easily been terrible, but it's great. So relentless.


message 3: by Rachel (new)

Rachel Bea (gekrepten) | 1761 comments Great book, hope you all who are reading it for the first time love it :)


message 4: by Kirsten (new)

Kirsten  (kmcripn) I loved this book! It is one of 2 horror books that scared me the most!! I looked at the vines on our apricot tree with new respect.


message 5: by Anne (w/ an E) (new)

Anne (w/ an E) (mzcatnthehat) | 825 comments I recently moved and when I put my (many!) books on the shelves, I left this one within reach, in hopes that it would be the winner. 👍🏻


message 6: by Kirsten (new)

Kirsten  (kmcripn) Good plan, Anne!


message 7: by Kimberly (new)

Kimberly (kimberly_3238) | 7707 comments Mod
I may join in this one, since I've read Summer of Night at least four times already. :) (That's not a bad thing ;) ).


message 8: by M.E. (last edited Jul 28, 2018 04:03PM) (new)

M.E. | 409 comments Yay! I love this book and this gives me an excuse to interrupt my TBR list and read it again.

Has anyone read this book and Clark Ashton Smith's short story The Seed from the Sepulchre? It seems like The Ruins could have been inspired by the short story. It could almost be a sequel.

To anyone who hasn't read both: the short story contains a spoiler for the novel.


message 9: by Marie Helene (last edited Jul 28, 2018 03:21PM) (new)

Marie Helene | 741 comments @ M.E. thank you!

I will re-read the The Seed from the Sepulchre while waiting for my paper version of the Ruins to arrive.

Very strange but Amazon does not seem to offer the Kindle version of the Ruins for its European customers.

I read the Seed from the Sepulchre long long time ago in an horror anthology book. The story was really good and scary, but I had forgotten the title and the author's name.

As far as I remember, I agree with you: The Ruins could be a sequel to The Seed from the Sepulchre.


message 10: by Laura (new)

Laura (flaura1066) | 9 comments A great novel with real creepy atmosphere. I hope you all enjoy!!


message 11: by Alan (new)

Alan | 7648 comments Mod
Great book and perfect summer reading. And I already read it so I don't have to interrupt my current reading to participate. :D


message 12: by Anne (w/ an E) (new)

Anne (w/ an E) (mzcatnthehat) | 825 comments M.E. wrote: "Yay! I love this book and this gives me an excuse to interrupt my TBR list and read it again.

Has anyone read this book and Clark Ashton Smith's short story [book:The Seed from the Sepulchre|36360..."


Thanks for the warning about the spoiler - I'll be sure to read the short story AFTER.


message 13: by Kim (new)

Kim | 148 comments I have read this awesome book. My skin still crawls thinking about it. Your gonna love it!


message 14: by Anne (w/ an E) (new)

Anne (w/ an E) (mzcatnthehat) | 825 comments Kimberly wrote: "I have read this awesome book. My skin still crawls thinking about it. Your gonna love it!"

I have heard lots of good things about this book. I am so glad I found a copy at the second-hand book store.


message 15: by Opal (new)

Opal (thebookishowl) | 8 comments I've never read this book before, and I can't wait to get started! I just ordered it off Amazon, so I hope it arrives soon. Everyone says how creepy it is, so I am super excited.


message 16: by M.E. (last edited Jul 29, 2018 03:57PM) (new)

M.E. | 409 comments Just in case anyone else is interested...

The location described in the book is actually pretty plausible in the real world. There is even a dirt road that runs off of the main road they would have taken from Cobá (where they travelled to by bus) and at the other end there is a tiny farming town that could almost be the Mayan village in the story.

I enjoy looking up story locations because, when they're real or surrounded by real places, it adds depth to the story for me. For those curious about the geography but not already familiar with the area:

The Ruins in the Yucatán peninsula are here:


A closer view with Cancún, Cobá and the ruins:



message 17: by Melanie (new)

Melanie | 1656 comments visit ancient ruins near Coba

My bucket list is rapidly diminishing.


message 18: by Marie Helene (new)

Marie Helene | 741 comments Melanie wrote: " visit ancient ruins near Coba

My bucket list is rapidly diminishing."


🤣


message 19: by Rachel (new)

Rachel Bea (gekrepten) | 1761 comments M.E. wrote: "Just in case anyone else is interested...

The location described in the book is actually pretty plausible in the real world. There is even a dirt road that runs off of the main road they would hav..."


Thanks for this info!!! That's so awesome!


message 20: by Ami (new)

Ami Morrison | 237 comments Can’t wait! This has been on my TBR list since it came out!!


message 21: by Kim (new)

Kim | 148 comments LOL @ Melanie!


message 22: by L. Smashing (new)

L. Smashing (l_smashing) | 83 comments Just started this last night.

I saw the movie years ago. So I'm familiar with the plot, but everyone always has amazing things to say about this book, so I'm giving it a shot.

I'm excited.


message 23: by Kirsten (new)

Kirsten  (kmcripn) I remember not being able to put it down!


message 24: by Jamie (new)

Jamie Zaccaria | 172 comments Although I really liked this book, I'm going to say this is one of those cases when I enjoyed the movie more than the book. I think because it was shorter, not as repetitive, and at least some of the movie characters were likable.

That being said the book is fantastic and I hope you all enjoy it as I did!


message 25: by M.E. (new)

M.E. | 409 comments Melanie wrote: "My bucket list is rapidly diminishing."

LOL, but now you know what to keep an eye out for so it’s safe. :-)


message 26: by Mike (new)

Mike (justwords) | 38 comments Picking up my held copy at the library tomorrow! May finish reading Aickman's Heirs before I start reading it, though.


message 27: by Marie Helene (new)

Marie Helene | 741 comments Still waiting for my copy to arrive...


message 28: by Marie Helene (last edited Aug 02, 2018 10:29AM) (new)

Marie Helene | 741 comments And then, one hour later, checking my letterbox, the book had just arrived in a jiffy enveloppe!
There's magic in Horror Aficionados :-)


message 29: by L. Smashing (new)

L. Smashing (l_smashing) | 83 comments I'm about 40% through, and at this point.

The first 25% got me really interested, but I'm a little bored now because it's a lot of introspection and a lot of internal freaking out.


message 30: by Becko (new)

Becko | 41 comments Requested my copy from library, just a waiting game now.


message 31: by M.E. (new)

M.E. | 409 comments Laura wrote: "I'm about 40% through, and at this point.

The first 25% got me really interested, but I'm a little bored now because it's a lot of introspection and a lot of internal freaking out."


I'm at 38% and I agree, it has slowed a bit but, having read the book before, I think it's fun seeing the characters miss what's going on around them. They're not being stupid or anything. A reasonable person just wouldn't realize it based on what they know or have seen so far. I'm getting antsy just thinking about it.

It's been a while since the last time I read the book but, if I remember correctly, it picks up again soon.


message 32: by Alan (new)

Alan | 7648 comments Mod
Smith may have spent some time on introspection and such early, but he really developed the characters, and all of that was important to the storyline later in the book.

Personally, I would have to consider this in my all-time top 20, if not top 10 horror books. The tension just builds and builds, the creepiness oozes from the pages, the anticipation of what happens next and the dread of what is going to happen just flows throughout the story. I'm really sorry Smith still only has two novels to date, as they were both terrific and were both made into one equally good and one better movie.


message 33: by Marie Helene (new)

Marie Helene | 741 comments I appreciate the time Smith spends on developing his characters. I dislike books with flat characters: as a reader I always feel 'robbed' when this happens. Fortunately not the case with Jeff, Amy, Eric, Stacy and Mathias.


message 34: by Nancy (new)

Nancy (paper_addict) | 812 comments I started rewinds this evening.


message 35: by Anne (w/ an E) (new)

Anne (w/ an E) (mzcatnthehat) | 825 comments Let me guess, Nancy. You don't look at the keys OR the page when you type...(unless there is a book called "Rewinds" that you started this evening?) ;D


message 36: by Nancy (new)

Nancy (paper_addict) | 812 comments Nope. Autocorrect surprise. How do you think we came to calling the library Larry?


message 37: by Nancy (new)

Nancy (paper_addict) | 812 comments I started reading tonight. It’s a fast read. I am already at page 109.


message 38: by Anne (w/ an E) (new)

Anne (w/ an E) (mzcatnthehat) | 825 comments Larry was just about the time I joined the group, I think.


message 39: by Anne (w/ an E) (new)

Anne (w/ an E) (mzcatnthehat) | 825 comments That was on AW, wasn't it?


message 40: by Nancy (new)

Nancy (paper_addict) | 812 comments Yep


message 41: by aPriL does feral sometimes (last edited Aug 03, 2018 09:19PM) (new)

aPriL does feral sometimes  (cheshirescratch) I liked the book. There was a movie too. I saw it first on Syfy, but I noticed Youtube has it, but maybe behind a subscriber paywall.

https://youtu.be/cyglpQU5sJ0


message 42: by L. Smashing (new)

L. Smashing (l_smashing) | 83 comments aPriL does feral sometimes wrote: "I liked the book. There was a movie too. I saw it first on Syfy, but I noticed Youtube has it, but maybe behind a subscriber paywall.

https://youtu.be/cyglpQU5sJ0"


Wow. I just finished the book, so I watched the trailer and just in the trailer they changed a lot for the movie....


message 43: by Marie Helene (new)

Marie Helene | 741 comments What is your opinion? The Mayan villagers, they do not speak Spanish or they do not want to speak Spanish? Don't you think they should know a few words of Spanish?


message 44: by Kirsten (new)

Kirsten  (kmcripn) Marie-Helene wrote: "What is your opinion? The Mayan villagers, they do not speak Spanish or they do not want to speak Spanish? Don't you think they should know a few words of Spanish?"

They should know a few words unless they're completely isolated.


message 45: by Marie Helene (new)

Marie Helene | 741 comments Yes, and I think it adds to the creepiness of the situation


message 46: by M.E. (new)

M.E. | 409 comments Kirsten wrote: "Marie-Helene wrote: "What is your opinion? The Mayan villagers, they do not speak Spanish or they do not want to speak Spanish? Don't you think they should know a few words of Spanish?"

They certainly would have picked up "no" as in:
Point at the hill.
Yell, "No!"
Wave both hands away from the hill..

It seems like they could have mimed more effectively as well. For example point at the hill, point at the cringo, make a throat cutting action. That might be interpreted as a threat rather than a warning, but would have come closer to the message they were trying to convey.

I chalked the poor communication up to maybe panic on the Mayan's part and left it at that. They clearly did try to warn everyone away from the hill initially though. I didn't come away from it thinking they were being deceptive by not speaking Spanish or English.


message 47: by Marie Helene (new)

Marie Helene | 741 comments I agree with you, there was panic on the Mayan side.
They did not expect the young gringos to be looking for the path, and to find the path.


message 48: by Nancy (new)

Nancy (paper_addict) | 812 comments I finished. (view spoiler)


message 49: by Anne (w/ an E) (new)

Anne (w/ an E) (mzcatnthehat) | 825 comments I started this tonight.


message 50: by Melanie (new)

Melanie | 1656 comments M.E. wrote: "Kirsten wrote: "Marie-Helene wrote: "What is your opinion? The Mayan villagers, they do not speak Spanish or they do not want to speak Spanish? Don't you think they should know a few words of Spani..."

I don't know, as a stupid white person who only speaks English and who's traveled extensively through Asia, India and Mexico, I have learned the hard way that gestures are very much culturally relative. Perhaps the tourists should have made more of an effort to learn the local lingo?


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