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The City & the City
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February 1, 2018
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February 28, 2018
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What Members Thought

Sandi
The City & the City is a book that defies explanation. On the surface, it's a murder mystery about an archeology student whose body is found in one city, Beszel, but she was murdered in the city that borders it, Ul Qoma. The two cities are very different from each other and it's very difficult to get permission to cross the border. Those who cross illegally are subject to Breach.

As the story starts, the relationship between the two cities seems kind of like the relationship between West and Eas
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Sarah
May 28, 2009 rated it really liked it
This is the first Mieville that I have finished, and I think the people who guessed that this would be the one I would enjoy were correct. The visceral descriptions of the city in Perdido Street Station (which I have been dragging myself through on my iPod for two years now) give way to descriptions of decrepit Eastern European grandeur. The cities of the title are by far my favorite characters in the book; they are alive and filled with history. Sadly, I can't say the same for the narrator, a p ...more
Snail in Danger (Sid) Nicolaides
I enjoyed this book. But honestly, after a couple re-readings, I think my enjoyment is of the concept and sometimes the language, more than of the book as a story-whole. (Though it keeps tempting me to re-read it, despite this uncertainty. So take that with a grain of salt.) But it is an awesome undertaking. I recommend it to all fans of speculative fiction, particularly those who enjoy police procedurals and/or live in cities. I also recommend taking a look at the author interview at the back o ...more
Megan
Jun 19, 2009 rated it it was amazing
Shelves: quirky-fiction
I stopped reading this book twice (and once almost threw it across the room) before it grabbed me hard. Impossible to describe, I will just say that its surreal Kafka-esque setup is so bizarre that it takes a while to sink it what the full extent of the weirdness is. Mieville drops you into his setting with a character who is himself completely immersed there and so is unable to explain what the nature of the city (or the city) really is. He is a detective investigating a murder, but his task is ...more
Snail in Danger (Sid) Nicolaides
Okay, maybe strictly speaking it doesn't belong on the mystery genre shelf, but there are strong elements of the police procedural, so it can sit right there. I very much enjoyed this one. "Topolgänger" may well be the best portmanteau/neologism ever.

The setting is very interesting - two cities occupy the same geographical space. I know, it sounds crazy, but if you live in even a moderately sized town, there are probably things that you're accustomed to just ... overlooking, and there are so man
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Zen
I really like this book. However, after putting it down, I could never get around other books long enough to want to finish the last third. Does that make it bad? I think not. The writing is intriguing and the characters, solid. The author makes a great social commentary though the book and doesn't fall into his own habit of being too convoluted to follow. Read at your own preference. ...more
Deedee
I didn't care for this one. I put it down quarter-read and haven't picked it up again. I found the premise hard to accept, so that's probably why, as I've read and enjoyed other novels written by China Mieville. ...more
H. R.
Jun 04, 2009 marked it as to-read
Nick
Jun 30, 2009 rated it it was amazing
Brian
Jul 12, 2009 marked it as to-read  ·  review of another edition
Lisa
Jul 30, 2009 marked it as to-read
Grey
Sep 10, 2009 rated it liked it
Shelves: dystopia
Barb
Sep 20, 2009 rated it really liked it
Kiran
Oct 06, 2009 is currently reading it
Patrick
Nov 26, 2009 marked it as to-read
Gaijinmama
Nov 27, 2009 marked it as to-read  ·  review of another edition
bsc
Feb 28, 2010 rated it it was amazing
Gavin
Jun 27, 2010 rated it it was amazing
Kelly
Jul 25, 2010 marked it as to-read
Jen
Sep 27, 2010 marked it as to-read
Anoolka
Oct 10, 2010 marked it as to-read  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: urban-fantasy
 Michelle
Oct 30, 2010 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Adrienne
Jan 18, 2011 marked it as to-read
Shelves: fantasy
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