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The different sections of this book didn't seem to go together to me, genre-wise.
There's the first, shortest, section, really an introduction, which is a gritty, dystopian, very plausible near-future in which the border region between the US and Mexico has been militarized and the citizenship of the denizens revoked. In fact, in legal terms they no longer exist and their presence is forgotten by the general public, although the soldiers use the towns as bases and take advantage of the poverty of ...more
There's the first, shortest, section, really an introduction, which is a gritty, dystopian, very plausible near-future in which the border region between the US and Mexico has been militarized and the citizenship of the denizens revoked. In fact, in legal terms they no longer exist and their presence is forgotten by the general public, although the soldiers use the towns as bases and take advantage of the poverty of ...more

Are you looking for another Phedra? You aren't going to find her here. You aren't going to find the sex or the epic adventure either. If this is what you are in the mood for, you should probably go elsewhere.
However, if you are up for a quick adventure that is self contained and a bit more real than the fantasy that you are used to from Carey, this is worth a look.
Loup (pronounced Lou actually) has some crazy genetics. She is fast, super strong, and has no fear. Literally. This actually poses a ...more
However, if you are up for a quick adventure that is self contained and a bit more real than the fantasy that you are used to from Carey, this is worth a look.
Loup (pronounced Lou actually) has some crazy genetics. She is fast, super strong, and has no fear. Literally. This actually poses a ...more

I don't read a lot of science fiction but when I do read it, what I like best is science fiction that explores elements of the world we live in and takes them to their logical conclusions. Santa Olivia, while ostensibly paranormal fiction, shares many qualities with this type of dystopian SF. In it, Jacqueline Carey explores current US immigration policy and, amazingly, anticipates the H1N1 flu epidemic by creating the small town of Santa Olivia, formerly part of Texas but now in the midst of a
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A plague has left the world devastated. There's little information about the symptoms or transmission of the plague, how it affected the lifestyles of the decimated populations or really much information at all. Suffice it to say, there was a plague. The US is at war with Mexico.
As the book opens, people living in a town on the Texas border are told they are no longer US citizens. Instead, they live in a no man's land controlled by the US Military. The town that was Santa Olivia exists no more. ...more
As the book opens, people living in a town on the Texas border are told they are no longer US citizens. Instead, they live in a no man's land controlled by the US Military. The town that was Santa Olivia exists no more. ...more

This story had a lot more about boxing than I thought, and a lot less vigilantism that the back cover suggested. Loup is a fascinating main character, and Carey made her world feel pretty real. I had trouble figuring out how large a "town" Santa Olivia is. Sometimes it felt too small, sometimes it felt like there had to be more going on than the reader was told about.
The story ended abruptly - I was almost afraid about thirty pages from the end that there would just be an untidy cliff-hanger. Lu ...more
The story ended abruptly - I was almost afraid about thirty pages from the end that there would just be an untidy cliff-hanger. Lu ...more

An interesting sort of post-apocalyptic novel. The main character is very interesting in that she's the accidental offspring of a genetically engineered super soldier. She doesn't feel fear or embarrassment or most normal human emotions, but she needs to keep her nature a secret or she'll be taken by the military. The emphasis in the story on boxing (as the only entertainment and possible ticket out of the Outpost) is very interesting, which I would never have expected.
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I know a lot of Jacqueline Carey fans have raved about Santa Olivia, but I just didn't quite get it. I am a HUGE fan of her Kushiel's Dart series - I have read it over many times. Reading Santa Olivia was like reading a completely different author! The voice wasn't the same at all and I had a hard time getting into it. I spent most of the book waiting for something interesting to happen, and was kinda disappointed when the big climax wasn't all that climactic. I am giving this 3 stars not becaus
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A bit slow getting into the book, but once I did, I really loved it. I wasn't sure what shelf this belongs to though... Science fiction? Vaguely, but not really. Or at least not as how I'd classify science fiction. It's not at all fantasy. But it's a good read about people and their fallibilities (actual word?) and how to push yourself to how far you can go and no more. And it's a good read to realize that what you do can affect others and vice versa. Nothing exists in isolation...
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I have somewhat burned out on Jacqueline Carey, I liked her 1st few books, then she lost me in the others and I stopped reading her books quite a few years ago. A friend recommended I pick this up and I am glad I did. It is very much in a different style than the others in some ways, yet rich in detail and the character is complex. I didn't want to put the book down!
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Carey leaves the fantasy utopia of her Kushiel series for a future dystopia of a long barricaded town on the US/Mexico border. There aren't many surprises in the story of Loup the by-blow of a genetically modified soldier. It sometimes chugs along slowly. I liked her but she was just a little boring.
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