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2501 |
To Tame a Highland Warrior (Highlander, #2)
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Karen Marie Moning (Goodreads Author)
4.12 avg rating — 34,760 ratings
score: 42,
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The Quest of the Fair Unknown (The Squire's Tales, #8)
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4.08 avg rating — 1,831 ratings
score: 42,
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The Inquisition (Summoner, #2)
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Taran Matharu (Goodreads Author)
4.30 avg rating — 22,979 ratings
score: 42,
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Blood Red (Elemental Masters, #9)
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Mercedes Lackey (Goodreads Author)
3.97 avg rating — 3,821 ratings
score: 42,
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The Candlestone (Dragons in Our Midst, #2)
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Bryan Davis (Goodreads Author)
4.12 avg rating — 4,504 ratings
score: 42,
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The Mage Wars (Valdemar: Mage Wars, #1-3)
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Mercedes Lackey (Goodreads Author)
4.33 avg rating — 379 ratings
score: 42,
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2507 |
Charlie Bone and the Shadow (The Children of the Red King, #7)
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4.03 avg rating — 16,574 ratings
score: 41,
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The Ballad of Sir Dinadan (The Squire's Tales, #5)
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4.13 avg rating — 2,557 ratings
score: 41,
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2507 |
A Study in Sable (Elemental Masters, #11)
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Mercedes Lackey (Goodreads Author)
4.01 avg rating — 2,748 ratings
score: 41,
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Reapers (Reapers, #1)
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Bryan Davis (Goodreads Author)
4.02 avg rating — 320 ratings
score: 41,
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The Mage Storms: A Valdemar Omnibus (The Mage Storms #1-3)
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Mercedes Lackey (Goodreads Author)
4.53 avg rating — 859 ratings
score: 41,
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2512 |
The Squire, His Knight, and His Lady (The Squire's Tales, #2)
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4.22 avg rating — 5,332 ratings
score: 40,
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2512 |
Warlord (Sanctuary, #6)
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4.55 avg rating — 1,910 ratings
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2512 |
The Rhesus Chart (Laundry Files, #5)
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Charles Stross (Goodreads Author)
4.19 avg rating — 9,377 ratings
score: 40,
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2512 |
The Invasion of the Tearling (The Queen of the Tearling, #2)
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Erika Johansen (Goodreads Author)
4.09 avg rating — 56,233 ratings
score: 40,
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Song of the Ovulum (Children of the Bard, #1)
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Bryan Davis (Goodreads Author)
4.24 avg rating — 864 ratings
score: 40,
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Witch Slapped (Witchless In Seattle, #1)
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4.04 avg rating — 3,407 ratings
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2512 |
The Mage Winds
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Mercedes Lackey (Goodreads Author)
4.46 avg rating — 880 ratings
score: 40,
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2519 |
Charlie Bone and the Red Knight (Children of the Red King, #8)
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4.13 avg rating — 9,893 ratings
score: 39,
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2519 |
The Hanging Tree (Rivers of London, #6)
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Ben Aaronovitch (Goodreads Author)
4.22 avg rating — 39,350 ratings
score: 39,
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2519 |
Cloak of the Light (Wars of the Realm, #1)
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4.41 avg rating — 1,864 ratings
score: 39,
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2519 |
Bastion (Valdemar: Collegium Chronicles, #5)
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Mercedes Lackey (Goodreads Author)
4.09 avg rating — 6,469 ratings
score: 39,
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2523 |
Foxglove Summer (Rivers of London, #5)
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Ben Aaronovitch (Goodreads Author)
4.21 avg rating — 48,552 ratings
score: 38,
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2523 |
The Fate of the Tearling (The Queen of the Tearling, #3)
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Erika Johansen (Goodreads Author)
3.74 avg rating — 41,944 ratings
score: 38,
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2523 |
Peter Nimble and His Fantastic Eyes (Peter Nimble, #1)
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Jonathan Auxier (Goodreads Author)
4.12 avg rating — 12,371 ratings
score: 38,
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2523 |
Diplomacy of Wolves (The Secret Texts, #1)
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Holly Lisle (Goodreads Author)
3.79 avg rating — 1,651 ratings
score: 38,
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2523 |
Redoubt (Valdemar: Collegium Chronicles, #4)
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Mercedes Lackey (Goodreads Author)
4.04 avg rating — 7,330 ratings
score: 38,
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2528 |
Ballad: A Gathering of Faerie (Books of Faerie, #2)
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Maggie Stiefvater (Goodreads Author)
3.78 avg rating — 17,938 ratings
score: 37,
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2528 |
Spider’s Revenge (Elemental Assassin, #5)
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Jennifer Estep (Goodreads Author)
4.19 avg rating — 16,315 ratings
score: 37,
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2528 |
Spell of the Highlander (Highlander, #7)
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Karen Marie Moning (Goodreads Author)
4.26 avg rating — 27,762 ratings
score: 37,
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2528 |
Domes of Fire (The Tamuli #1)
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4.02 avg rating — 29,065 ratings
score: 37,
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2528 |
The Forbidden Library (The Forbidden Library, #1)
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Django Wexler (Goodreads Author)
3.83 avg rating — 5,488 ratings
score: 37,
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Changes (Valdemar: Collegium Chronicles, #3)
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Mercedes Lackey (Goodreads Author)
4.02 avg rating — 8,398 ratings
score: 37,
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2534 |
The Forest Lord (Fane, #1)
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3.60 avg rating — 470 ratings
score: 36,
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2534 |
Castle of Wizardry (The Belgariad #4)
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4.18 avg rating — 79,251 ratings
score: 36,
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2534 |
DragonSpell (DragonKeeper Chronicles, #1)
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Donita K. Paul (Goodreads Author)
3.90 avg rating — 13,440 ratings
score: 36,
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2534 |
A Kiss of Fate (Guardians, #1)
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3.76 avg rating — 1,665 ratings
score: 36,
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On Dragonwings: Dragonsdawn / Dragonseye / Moreta (Pern #9, 14, 7)
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4.43 avg rating — 2,210 ratings
score: 36,
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2539 |
Lord of Legends (Fane, #3)
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3.31 avg rating — 254 ratings
score: 35,
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2539 |
Nobody's Princess (Nobody's Princess, #1)
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3.69 avg rating — 13,395 ratings
score: 35,
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2539 |
The Eagle & the Nightingales (Bardic Voices, #3)
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Mercedes Lackey (Goodreads Author)
3.90 avg rating — 4,185 ratings
score: 35,
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2539 |
Eye of the Oracle (Oracles of Fire, #1)
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Bryan Davis (Goodreads Author)
4.14 avg rating — 3,602 ratings
score: 35,
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2539 |
Anne McCaffrey's Dragonflight
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4.54 avg rating — 9,681 ratings
score: 35,
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2544 |
Lord Of The Beasts (Fane #2)
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3.42 avg rating — 288 ratings
score: 34,
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2544 |
The Robin & The Kestrel (Bardic Voices, #2)
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Mercedes Lackey (Goodreads Author)
3.92 avg rating — 5,463 ratings
score: 34,
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2544 |
Dragonflight / Dragonquest (Pern: Dragon Riders of Pern, #1-2)
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4.47 avg rating — 11,372 ratings
score: 34,
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2547 |
Lord of Sin (Fane, #4)
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3.46 avg rating — 117 ratings
score: 33,
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2547 |
Melting Stones (The Circle Reforged, #2)
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Tamora Pierce (Goodreads Author)
3.87 avg rating — 13,000 ratings
score: 33,
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2547 |
Hexed (The Iron Druid Chronicles, #2)
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Kevin Hearne (Goodreads Author)
4.22 avg rating — 65,058 ratings
score: 33,
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2547 |
Anne McCaffrey Freedom Collection: Freedom's Landing, Freedom's Challenge, Freedom's Choice (Catteni Series)
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4.42 avg rating — 729 ratings
score: 33,
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2551 |
The Undertaking of Hart and Mercy (Hart and Mercy, #1)
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Megan Bannen (Goodreads Author)
4.06 avg rating — 45,249 ratings
score: 32,
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2551 |
Anne McCaffrey's Dragonflight #1
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Brynne Stephens (Adapter)
4.45 avg rating — 36,812 ratings
score: 32,
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2553 |
The Chrome Borne (SERRAted Edge, #1&4)
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Mercedes Lackey (Goodreads Author)
3.98 avg rating — 1,547 ratings
score: 31,
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2553 |
The Harper Hall of Pern (Pern: Harper Hall, #1-3)
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4.46 avg rating — 6,959 ratings
score: 31,
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2555 |
River Secrets (The Books of Bayern, #3)
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Shannon Hale (Goodreads Author)
4.05 avg rating — 37,240 ratings
score: 30,
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2555 |
Sword of Ice and Other Tales of Valdemar (Tales of Valdemar #1)
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3.90 avg rating — 4,514 ratings
score: 30,
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2557 |
Forest Born (The Books of Bayern, #4)
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Shannon Hale (Goodreads Author)
4.04 avg rating — 28,304 ratings
score: 29,
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2557 |
Knight of Ghosts and Shadows (Bedlam's Bard, #1)
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Mercedes Lackey (Goodreads Author)
3.87 avg rating — 3,360 ratings
score: 29,
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2557 |
Brightly Burning (Valdemar #8)
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Mercedes Lackey (Goodreads Author)
4.11 avg rating — 10,813 ratings
score: 29,
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2560 |
Crossroads and Other Tales of Valdemar (Tales of Valdemar #3)
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3.91 avg rating — 3,474 ratings
score: 28,
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2561 |
Sun in Glory and Other Tales of Valdemar (Tales of Valdemar #2)
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3.88 avg rating — 3,916 ratings
score: 27,
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2562 |
The Dragonriders of Pern (Dragonriders of Pern, #1-3)
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4.28 avg rating — 30,965 ratings
score: 26,
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2563 |
Dark Curse (Dark, #16)
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Christine Feehan (Goodreads Author)
4.34 avg rating — 15,607 ratings
score: 25,
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2564 |
Dark Symphony (Dark, #9)
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Christine Feehan (Goodreads Author)
4.20 avg rating — 19,117 ratings
score: 24,
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2565 |
Emily Wilde's Encyclopaedia of Faeries (Emily Wilde, #1)
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Heather Fawcett (Goodreads Author)
3.97 avg rating — 190,257 ratings
score: 23,
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2565 |
The Talisman (The Talisman, #1)
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Stephen King (Goodreads Author)
4.11 avg rating — 139,210 ratings
score: 23,
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2567 |
Juxtaposition (Apprentice Adept, #3)
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3.94 avg rating — 12,438 ratings
score: 22,
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2567 |
Storm (Elemental, #1)
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Brigid Kemmerer (Goodreads Author)
3.94 avg rating — 27,033 ratings
score: 22,
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2567 |
Oliver Caine's in Trouble Again
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William Kondylis (Goodreads Author)
4.43 avg rating — 21 ratings
score: 22,
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2570 |
The Skies of Pern (Pern, #15)
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4.12 avg rating — 16,189 ratings
score: 21,
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2571 |
The Seven Deadly Sins, Vol. 1
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4.13 avg rating — 7,739 ratings
score: 20,
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2571 |
The Girl Who Heard Dragons (Pern Publication Order, #8.5)
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3.92 avg rating — 11,477 ratings
score: 20,
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2573 |
The Masterharper of Pern (Pern, #14)
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4.26 avg rating — 25,395 ratings
score: 19,
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2574 |
Crimson Prince, Tome 1 (Crimson Prince, #1)
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3.63 avg rating — 114 ratings
score: 18,
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2574 |
The Dolphins of Pern (Pern, #12)
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4.03 avg rating — 19,178 ratings
score: 18,
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2576 |
All the Weyrs of Pern (Pern, #11)
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4.23 avg rating — 26,900 ratings
score: 17,
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2577 |
Once Upon a Curse (The Tales of the Frog Princess, #3)
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E.D. Baker (Goodreads Author)
4.08 avg rating — 13,063 ratings
score: 16,
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2577 |
Dragondrums (Harper Hall, #3)
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4.11 avg rating — 37,998 ratings
score: 16,
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2579 |
The Prophecy of the Stones
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3.51 avg rating — 6,720 ratings
score: 15,
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2579 |
Emily Wilde’s Map of the Otherlands (Emily Wilde, #2)
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Heather Fawcett (Goodreads Author)
4.26 avg rating — 89,850 ratings
score: 15,
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2579 |
Dark Prince (Dark, #1)
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Christine Feehan (Goodreads Author)
really liked it 4.00 avg rating — 59,495 ratings
score: 15,
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2582 |
Night Play (Dark-Hunter, #5; Were-Hunter, #1)
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Sherrilyn Kenyon (Goodreads Author)
4.34 avg rating — 55,696 ratings
score: 14,
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2583 |
Witch Hunter, Volume 1 (Witch Hunter #1)
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4.04 avg rating — 431 ratings
score: 13,
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2583 |
Frost Line
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3.50 avg rating — 1,900 ratings
score: 13,
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2583 |
Night Pleasures (Dark-Hunter #1)
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Sherrilyn Kenyon (Goodreads Author)
4.19 avg rating — 82,238 ratings
score: 13,
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2586 |
The Veil (Devil's Isle, #1)
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Chloe Neill (Goodreads Author)
3.70 avg rating — 5,956 ratings
score: 12,
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2586 |
Lover Unleashed (Black Dagger Brotherhood, #9)
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J.R. Ward (Goodreads Author)
4.28 avg rating — 97,017 ratings
score: 12,
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2588 |
Magic Man (Magic, #6)
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Patricia Rice (Goodreads Author)
4.05 avg rating — 487 ratings
score: 11,
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2588 |
Island of Glass (The Guardians Trilogy, #3)
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Nora Roberts (Goodreads Author)
4.28 avg rating — 25,252 ratings
score: 11,
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2588 |
Lover Revealed (Black Dagger Brotherhood, #4)
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J.R. Ward (Goodreads Author)
4.28 avg rating — 143,339 ratings
score: 11,
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2588 |
Emily Wilde's Compendium of Lost Tales (Emily Wilde, #3)
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Agreed.



I quite agree. I loved that series.

It's successfully rating books on popularity with readers, by which books they've actually read and are familiar with.
Harry Potter books are great, and they're fun. Yet there is absolutely nothing interesting (nor original) about the magic system. Magic exists, and works in a way convenient to the story and the writer. The effects of the magic might be interesting, but the books shouldn't really be considered in a "Most Interesting Magical System" category.
mercury wrote: "This list is FAILing it's job of rating books on interesting-ness of the magic system.
It's successfully rating books on popularity with readers, by which books they've actually read and are fami..."
I was thinking the same thing... after looking at the list, it looks like a popularity contest. I suppose some people are rather limited in the reading they have done. I can't even remember all the books I've read. I actually added some books i don't even like to the list ;) I was thinking along the lines of original, well developed, unique, well explained, and interesting systems. I am refraining from voting on books already listed that I LOVE, because I don't think they really qualify for this list. Oh well...
It's successfully rating books on popularity with readers, by which books they've actually read and are fami..."
I was thinking the same thing... after looking at the list, it looks like a popularity contest. I suppose some people are rather limited in the reading they have done. I can't even remember all the books I've read. I actually added some books i don't even like to the list ;) I was thinking along the lines of original, well developed, unique, well explained, and interesting systems. I am refraining from voting on books already listed that I LOVE, because I don't think they really qualify for this list. Oh well...

It's successfully rating books on popularity with readers, by which books they've actually r..."
I made the list and sorry but I don't see a way to kick books off!



Some claims that Harry, as the boy who survived, can do any kind of magic, simply by pronouncing the required magical words in the correct tone and accent. It’s absolutely wrong. In order to do "magic", firstly you have to possess the magical power and ability. You may learn spells by reading spell books, but in order to cast one, you have to learn how to do so, and train yourself. For example; in “The Deathly Hallows”, Hagrid desperately tries to repair his motorbike up in the air, he screams “Reparo” the magical word to repair stuff, as you might recall, in the very correct accent, yet it does not work successfully. Why not? Hagrid has magical powers, as we witness in the first book, but he is incapable of casting certain kinds of spells.
If you’re not satisfied with this particular example, here’s another one for you: The Patronus Charm! It’s not all about swinging your wand and yelling “Expecto Patronum”. After learning the basics, you have to imagine your happiest moments to form a patronus, which is not an easy task, since many students seem amazed by the fact that Harry manages to produce it.
Another intriguing fact about the magical word of Harry Potter is that there are certain rules about “creating” things. For instance; you cannot create food out of thin air, as Hermione explains to Ron in “The Deathly Hallows”. There’s in indeed a limitation.
If you examine the books -quite carefully for once- you as well, will definitely come up with other facts, that may serve to prove the point.

The question is have you ever read Harry Potter? When it comes to that, you're randomly guessing without reasoning.

I understand that you don't have "anything" to say about HP world, you obviously have a very limited knowledge -probably based on the “popular” film adaptations- and you're not capable of criticizing my comment on the magical system of HP, therefore I have already successfully pointed out that you're randomly guessing.

You're the one, who clearly insulted each and every one, who like the pure escapist HP series, by claiming that they're for "unthinking masses". Actually, generalisation is for "unthinking" and lazy beings. Hope you remember it, the next time.

Agreed. How's Twilight even on this list? There is no magic in that book. Just weird vampire powers (still not magic).




Agreed. Have you ever read "Black Magician Trilogy" by Trudi Canavan? I believe the magic system in that story is as complex as Eragon. Not everyone can do magic. But everyone has magic. And the magic it self like a knowledge that needs to explored first. Just like a scienstist trying to find new thing.


By this logic eventually every book with the word magic in it somewhere will be clogging up the list eliminating any value it may have...



I completely agree with you! I am also a Harry Potter fan but I do not understand the magic system at all.


I totally agree! I'd prefer to have A Wizard of Earthsea beat HP's position! I'd comment on the other books, but I haven't gotten to reading them yet. I will eventually!
Matthew wrote: "Although there is some argument over Harrt Potter, I think we can all agree that Twilight does not, in any way shape or form, belong on this list."
Totally agree
I was thinking WTH is that doing in here! not only that but its almost in the top 50!
I swear twilight comes up on every list!
It was in a steampunk list at one point!
what is with the twilight fans ?
Totally agree
I was thinking WTH is that doing in here! not only that but its almost in the top 50!
I swear twilight comes up on every list!
It was in a steampunk list at one point!
what is with the twilight fans ?
I also agree about harry potter has much as I love thoese books the only interesting magic is the horcruxs and even then that are not the most imaginative.

Maybe if the terms were more clearly and explicitly defined at the top of the page, people would be more discriminating about what books they add.

I suppose you're right about the description. Depending on one's experience with the fantasy genre, one may not understand what a magic "system" is, as opposed to a world or a setting.


Another thing, whoever the heck is voting for Twilight, stop it!! They don't use magic - they are werewolves and vampires. And if that is magic, it's not new - books about werewolves and vampires are not "unique."
Furthermore, why don't we just vote on series, not series and the individual volumes? I mean, the magic in Mistborn doesn't change from book to book. The uniqueness of the system is the same in each book - so how is one more unique than the other? I mean, really.

Speaking of Mistborn, Brandon Sanderson ALWAYS goes above and beyond when it comes to the creation and defining of magical systems. The systems always have clear limitations and, what to me at least, the best part about all of them is that none of them function in the absence of... well, something. Be it metal, color, trapped light or 'breath'/souls, each of his magic systems have an internal logic they must play by; in a sense each system has its own law of conservation of energy.
Garth Nix did the same thing in the Old Kingdom stories, when he brought a rather elegant system of magic to necromancy through the use of sound and the various gates of death. The aspects of charter magic and words are more traditional but since that was the magic of the common people inhabiting his world, it served as a nice counterpoint to the abilities of the abhorsen.
One of the most thought provoking systems of magic I have encountered was in A Shadow of Summer by Daniel Abraham. The golemesque 'andat' and the poets that bind them with unique 'names' and whose very own sense of self worth can infect those 'names' and allow weaknesses for the andat to exploit was wonderfully used and rich with philosophical potential that wouldn't have been found in the traditional summoner and summoning pact basis from which it springs.
I am going to stop before I go on and on about why I picked each book to vote for but I guess the main reason I stopped to write a reply to this list is simply because it is my favorite one to think about hands down.
Oh and Robin Hobb got two books in my list from the same series (or at least the same world) because the magic system diverges in very unique ways... and honestly, it does again in the third trilogy. I won't say more since most of it is closely tied to the plot.



I know! Where's Bartimaeus on this list? How can The Host be on while they aren't?!

I know! Where's Bartimaeus on this list? How c..."
VERY good point. The magic in that book was very unique, and very cool.
As it stands, however, Bartimaeus IS on the list. Number 65.
The Ballad of Young Tam Lin. You can debate the "original," since it's somewhat based on Scottish folklore, but for a totally engaging fantasy romance, you won't find better than this. Preview 3 chapters on Amazon Kindle ("Look Inside").

Going back a bit (well, a BIG bit), there's the Amber series by Zelazny. Not nearly as well-written as The Ballad of Young Tam Lin (above), but the plotting in the early books is engaging, and the idea of a reality "more real" than our own is compelling.
The problem with the Harry Potter universe is that the magic HAS no system. Look at the magical duels. Harry and pals have to yell out obscure words, but Lord V and Dumbledore just throw raw magic around, a la Once and Future King (oh, there's a good one for the list). Reading the series, you can see how Rowling trapped herself with the silliness of the early books. (Anyone ever tried to drink real pumpkin juice? The skin crawls at the thought.)

It's successfully rating books on popularity with readers, by which books they've actually read and are fami..."
Agreed, and lord of the rings while definitely involving magic, encoperates scarce more a difinition than 'it exists'

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This doesn't mean I am not a fan I love Harry Potter!