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Burned (Dani O'Malley Trilogy #2)(Fever Book #7) **Not Yet Released **

Everytime I read the new comments/theories i find my self nooding along, thinking "Yes, I can totally see that!" or "Dang, why didn't I think of that!". Lol
And then I get the urge to reread the dang book! But I must resist!...at least until book 2 is closer to release date, haha.

I can't stand Mac and was glad we didn't see a lot of her but I was WTF because she and Barrons didn't help fighting against the HFK. Very weird."
I dunno I think Mac and Barrons may have bigger things to deal with... those wraiths!!!
i feel like Barrons leaves Ryo to do his own thing and only came in to help Ryo when Dani disappeared, b/c Ryo needed help finding her!!

Everytime I read the new comments/theories i find my self nooding along, thinking "Yes, I can totally see that!" or "Dang, why didn't I think of that!". Lo..."
Does book 2 have a release date yet??

You can check my review for a detailed answer but in short
- I enjoyed Dani as the narrator
- Ryoda..."
**Sarah- I think you and I are on the same wavelength with the Ryo/Dani situation. I truly did not feel like KMM was planning some great future love affair with Ryo and Dani down the line... When I put down the book after finishing it, my first thought was...wow- I love Ryo and Dani's relationship. He's like the tough love mentor/parent she has never had before. And I freaking love Ryo so much that I just can't even picture that bad ass dude "wanting" a child. I don't want him with Jo either...but Jo didn't really have a voice, and seems way to prissy to me. I realize this was thru Dani's eyes, so maybe my feeling will change...
Davena-Mac and Barrons may have been dealing with the Wraiths...but I would consider the world freezing over and killing all it's inhabitants (destroying DUBLIN!) a much BIGGER situation. LOL I don't know why it bothers me so much??

I really hope we get more info on these wraiths because I agree with Mich... What is more important than Dublin (the world?) getting freezed? Hmmm...


I don't know... I am 50/50 on wanting Ryo to get a HEA. I feel like we don't know him well enough to know if a HEA is even what he wants... Although I would like to see him with someone who I thought was worthy of him, and again Sparkly Boobed Jo doesn't quite fit that bill in my head.

I agree that the Crimson Hag was way more interesting than the HFK and I can't wait to see more of her in the next book.

The Crimson Hag was disgustingly awesome! She freaked me out. LOL
And I agree on the whole Ryodan getting a HEA. I do want him to have a HEA, but I agree with Sarah ♥ Vutch forever ♥ that he doesn't seem like the type. I definitely don't want him with Jo though.

IMHO, the HFK was a pretty lame villain. I didn't enjoy reading about this all. I mean, there isn't anything particularly dramatic or interesting about an amorphous blob that acts like a giant flash freezer, you know?

I will also say, I'm one of the few(?) who want a Ryo/Dani pairing, BUT it woul be an awesome twist and surprise if Dani ends up with some else...
and Jo dead! JK! Lol

I agree with Kim that Ryodan's interests in Dani are not sexual. I see him more as a mentor for her, that will potentially disappoint her in a major way. I do like the relationship developing between Kat and Ryodan. Ryodan's lack of feeling is a reprieve for Kat the empath. The idea has been done many times but I still like it.
Who is the boy left in faery? I don't remember the story?
I also just want to put it out there that I really like Dani's odd childhood. It's a nice change from Mac who could be annoying at times due to her seemingly perfect past.

I thought the same thing about Jo! I was all for her and Ryodan getting it on but then she got all vain and lame.


And if she does use some funny Silvers-style time to move things along, I think it will seem forced.
Claire wrote: " .IMHO, the HFK was a pretty lame villain. I didn't enjoy reading about this all. I mean, there isn't anything particularly dramatic or interesting about an amorphous blob that acts like a giant flash freezer, you know?"
Ha! Totally. Much preferred the one who knits entrails, thankyouverymuch, and the creepy skittering ones following Mac.


Don't want to see him with Dani though, Ryo and Dani are peas in the fever pod IMHO;-)"
I concur wholeheartedly with Ryo and Dani as peas in the fever pod! :)

Don't want to see him with Dani though, Ryo and Dani are peas in the fever pod IMHO;-)..."
I totally agree! =D

But then KMM should hurry and introduce worthy females. I haven't seen any so far. I also would hate it if she pairs up all Nine PNR style and emascualtes them.
jessica wrote: "I also just want to put it out there that I really like Dani's odd childhood. It's a nice change from Mac who could be annoying at times due to her seemingly perfect past."
I'm so intrigued by Dani's childhood and was a bit disappointed we didn't get more of that. But I guess KMM saves this for a later date.
jessa ♥dhanger♥ EvilDarkSide wrote: "Maybe she 'fast-forwards' the storyline in between books or something...but that's going to be tough to pull off."
Well, we already know Dani will be 17 at the end of her trilogy. So 3 years will pass.
Readinmama wrote: "My mind just can't process a Keltar without his mate, so I'm clinging to the hope that somewhere - either in this series or a new Highlander novella maybe - Christian will fulfill his romantic destiny!"
Maybe Dani will only lose her V card in her series and not get a HEA but end up with Christian later.

Me too Jessica but not on a romantic way but more as leaders or equals which is much much more important for a man like Ryo.

I really think that now that Ro is gone some very interesting personalities are going to arouse from the the sidhe seers and the fact that the 9 have them already under close observation becomes much more interesting

Bwahh...Sarah, Let's all be honest and open with eachother... we all think the only female of worth for Ryo is ourselves. lol ...::sigh::
But SERIOUSLY, Have we all built Ryo up to such a level that finding a "female of worth" for him might be a needle in a haystack type scenario??
Readinmama: "My mind just can't process a Keltar without his mate, so I'm clinging to the hope that somewhere - either in this series or a new Highlander novella maybe - Christian will fulfill his romantic destiny..."
Totally with you. Wasn't a big fan of Christian in Fever, but now I am totally interested in him. He is at his very human center still a hunky Keltar Highlander...and a Keltar always finds his mate in KMM's world.
1 BIG PLUS: We will totally get more Crimson Hag, But when?
Could Christian not show up again till book 3- "FLAYED"? Makes me think of the Hag...Someone is going to find Christian with his guts hanging out..it's going to be gruesomely delicious. lol

This is definitely something I could see. Although I'd love it if in the end Ryo mindfu**ed everyone - Dani, Kat, Jo... Would be awesome!
Marina wrote: "I really think that now that Ro is gone some very interesting personalities are going to arouse from the the sidhe seers and the fact that the 9 have them already under close observation becomes much more interesting"
I'd like to see more of the sidhe-seers in general. Their lives, their 'work' (fighting, research ect.). I mean, we got some information with Kat's POV but since Dani is isolated from them more or less, it's not much we see of that.
Mich wrote: "Bwahh...Sarah, Let's all be honest and open with eachother... we all think the only female of worth for Ryo is ourselves. lol ...::sigh::"
We're too ordinary and human for a male like Ryo.
Mich wrote: "But SERIOUSLY, Have we all built Ryo up to such a level that finding a "female of worth" for him might be a needle in a haystack type scenario??"
It's not only Ryo. In most books the females are way too average, annoying or boring for the hero. They can be glad they are part of a PNR/UF story and a "romance" us expected by most readers, otherwise the males wouldn't even look at them in my opinion. LMAO
Mich wrote: "Could Christian not show up again till book 3- "FLAYED"? Makes me think of the Hag...Someone is going to find Christian with his guts hanging out..it's going to be gruesomely delicious. lol"
That would be horrible. The wait, I mean. Christian and his story seems to be a vital part of the Dani books and I can't see him disappear for a whole book. I just wonder if the Crimson Hag will be the big villain in the end.


Which makes his storyline much more intriguing. The Keltars are already an interesting bunch. Having Christian fight for his humanity....yeah, I'm definitely very interested in where KMM takes his storyline.

**I guess it would be horrible to wait till book 3 for the continuation of Christian's story. (especially since he is in the lineup for one of Dani's suitors...)
**Kim, thanks for bringing up the thing about Dani losing her powers at random times...I COMPLETELY forgot about that. Theories??

I actually feel really bad for Christian. I mean, what can he do? He tries to hold on to his humanity but can't stop his change. The scene with the dead woman was horrible, for Dani but also for him. He also seems to forget things he says/does as an UP.
But I'm sure he'll be saved somehow in the end.

And I would argue that Barrons has him beat for lord and master of Dublin.
Anyway, I agree that we may not see Dani get her HEA with the person she loses her virginity to, or even get her HEA in these three books. I don't think Dani is just going to disappear because the books are no longer written from her POV. And while I have a hard time accepting a Keltar without his mate, this isn't a romance novel which means KMM isn't bound to resolve his storyline with a HEA. So I'm not certain that we'll see Christian make a recovery. We could just lose him. Or we might have to wait for Christian to be saved when the story goes back to Mac and Barrons since Christian has it out for them.

I have not read the Highlander series apart from the first book, so I am not that invested in Christian, though I do feel sorry for him.
Alhtough I respect the fact that a lot of the posters have read the Highlander series and want to see the 2 story lines merged (Iced is really book 6 in the Fever series) ie HIghlander HEA, romance and all that, I personally dont think KMM will take the storyline in that direction. Of course I could be wrong.
The was I see it is, the only interest Dani showed Christian was that of a friend and possibly someone she feels the need to save (literally from the Hag). She is on a big mission to save everyone all the time, sees herself as one of the last lines
of defence.
On the other hand she showed a bit more romantic interest in Dancer. Occasional comments like "one day I would like Dancer to see me without all the blood guts and gore", the deep connection she has with Dancer etc.
Ryo disturbs her on all levels, and her being a 14 year old teen, the feelings are a bit all over the place, admiration (she wants to be like him fast and all), hate for the controlling part, not to mention the actual flashes in her mind of him in a context
she is still too young to cope with.
I agree with some that it is quite possible that there will be no HEA at the end of Dani's arc simply because she will still be too young for that (17), however if I had to place a bet on whom she loses her virginity to, it would be Dancer.

The thing is that in addition to not wanting him in a HEA, I was/am also hoping he's some kind of bad guy. I mean, look at what he did... He chained Dani up, broke her fingers, smashed her into that column... The latter was actually one of my fave scenes because that's how I wanted him to be. But how people still want her with him is beyond me and I find it funny when they excuse his behavior. But to each his own.
Is a Keltar without a mate really that horrible? I haven't read the books. Is it like finding your soul mate and if you don't, you'll never be happy?

Do we know who's stealing all the food? Maybe I missed that. It might be them and then they give it to everyone who joins them.

The thing ..."
I didnt see him has the bad buy, badass yes, not bad guy. He is like running the show for the 9. I think that because of Dani's talents being so similar to the 9, he his grooming her to be part of the 9. But like the rest of them, she must take orders. (Barrons excluded, he is like the other one in charge). But in the end they stand together as a group, have rules and a strict sort of code.

I don't think Ryo is a "Bad Guy" per say... I think he is just a bad ass dude. Him and Barrons (b/c of their violent tendancies toward women in general) make them both kind of cruel in nature. I agree that his treatment of Dani was just unexusable sometimes. (No matter how "strong" she is, she is still in FACT 14!!)
**Sarah, I don't think we ever got conclusive evidence who is taking all the food. Dani accused Ryo...but he said he didn't take it (and we all know what kind of sustinance he needs to survive, lol)
I didn't get the WeCare people...I think I'm confused. I thought Mac's Mom was helping out the WeCare people? (no?)
**Sarah, the Highlander books are PURE Romance at their very core. Star crossed lovers going thru every fate and folly to be together...yadda, yadda type thing. (oozing with hot Keltar dudes). The main plotline of every book is taking one uber strong male lead and setting them on some crazy quest, in which includes finding that "female of worth" we are always referring too. (You would hate most of these females...LOLOL)that being said, I have read 6 of the highlander books, and i love most of them. (im a sap-whatever.)

That's what I hope to see. I want Dani and Ryo to have a mentor/student relationship and her fighting with the Nine in the end would be cool.
Mich wrote: "(No matter how "strong" she is, she is still in FACT 14!!)"
I totally agree.
Mich wrote: "Dani accused Ryo...but he said he didn't take it (and we all know what kind of sustinance he needs to survive, lol)"
I don't think Ryo took it although it would give him more power if he was the one who owned all food and water.
Mich wrote: "I didn't get the WeCare people...I think I'm confused. I thought Mac's Mom was helping out the WeCare people? (no?)"
To me they sounded like some kind of sect with their white robes and all that. I'm sure they'll play a bigger role in the next books. Rainey Lane is one of them.
Mich wrote: "The main plotline of every book is taking one uber strong male lead and setting them on some crazy quest, in which includes finding that "female of worth" we are always referring too."
So a Keltar (Christian) without a HEA in the end would be... different?

I also don't need to reread the book. We just have to agree to disagree about that particular topic.
Apart from that, I think Ryo with Dani would just be a copy of Barrons and Mac. I expect more from KMM.
Why do you hate Jo? Have you always hated her or is it only because you want Ryo with Dani and don't like that he fu**s her?
I'm sure Christian's change will be very interesting. Like I said above. He is creepy but he can't help it. He has to struggle all the time to keep some sense of humanity. I liked him in Fever but now I find him really intriguing.


Because it's the same relationship: Young female vs ancient male; sidhe-seer vs. Beast; student vs. teacher...
Barrons actually treated Mac more like an equal (though she hardly deserved it at times). And he helped her far more often, maybe because she was still mortal at the time. Ryodan doesn't seem to value Dani's life all that much, I guess he must know something we don't.

I honestly and truly put the book down, and thanked the good lord, er...KMM, that she didn't put sexual tension between Ryo and Dani. I didn't see it at all. (and I read and highlighted pages in the book for future reference on this thought...LOL) I completely felt like he had been watching her since she was a child, knew she was like him and his men- and feels like he can use her as his own weapon. Train her. Make her stronger. Show her all the powers that she has that she obviously doesn't know about yet. **Ryo indeed OOZES sex. And the way he talks to Dani (a 14 year old) is sometimes innappropriate. But it's Ryo-He doesn't apologize for his crude behavior. Hell, that's why we all love him. I think Ryo's #1 interest is himself, and anything that is going to give him the advantage. That thing is Dani...
On a side note, I wasn't too fond of Jo either. But as most pointed out, we never get her POV. It's always just what Dani thinks...and Dani thinks she is a complete toolbag for sleeping with Ryo...I am interested in hearing from more of the Sidhe-Seers...
**I think the only thing that Ryo/Dani and Mac/Barrons have in common right now...is that Ryo is using Dani to help him with his dirty work & Barrons used Mac as his own personal "OOP" detector. Hopefully KMM isn't using the same set up to eventual romance between the two...


You'd also have the "rival" in form of Christian (= V'lane). Way too similar for my taste and I really hope KMM goes a different route.
Mich wrote: "I honestly and truly put the book down, and thanked the good lord, er...KMM, that she didn't put sexual tension between Ryo and Dani. I didn't see it at all."
LMAO
I guess this is one of the most debated topics of the book. Is there something sexual or not? Guess we just have to agree to disagree. I mean, not we two because I agree with you but you know what I mean. Hahaha!
Mich wrote: "On a side note, I wasn't too fond of Jo either. But as most pointed out, we never get her POV."
I've never cared about Jo. I just wonder if there is more to it? Is she a spy? Is she translating something with/for Ryodan (he'd doing a lot of paperwork)...
jessa ♥dhanger♥ EvilDarkSide wrote: "@ Sarah: I get the feeling that you are not a fan of the romantic aspects in any of these books. Are you just not a romance fan in general or is it something tied to the story in this series? Just wondering :)"
Well, my focus is more on the world building and character development. The romance is often predictable and cliché and I hate it when awesome males get emasculated for annoying females. In the Fever books, the latter was the case, for example. I hate Mac and cannot see how a male like Barrons would have any romantic feelings for someone like her. Then he got barbecued which is a shame.
But this doesn't mean I hate all romances, some I can enjoy. But still, they are never the main reason for me to read these books, especially not UF.

^This. That's why I hope he mindfu**s everyone in the end.

They haven't even threaten her... Ryo justs warns her to shut it b/c if Jo knows then they will kill Jo, but why not Dani... hmmm... maybe another clue that she might be one of them.

They haven't even threaten her... Ryo justs warns her to shut it b/c if Jo knows then they will kill Jo, but ..."
Do we know for sure that the others know that Dani knows their secret? Is it possible that Ryodan and Barron's lied about her seeing them die? They could have just said that Christian whisked her out of there before they died. I need to reread the scene.

"* Every chapter in ICED is a song title except one, “Can you guess which one?”
* Dani is the easiest & most fun character to write about.
* She never had a problem writing about Dani’s age. “If we didn’t watch her grow, we would be missing out on what makes Dani the woman she becomes. If she started Dani at 17, we would miss some of the first moments of sexual awakening & her character development. We get to watch her grow & be shaped.”
* (On her “Haters” about Dani’s Age) ” If Dani can be an assassin at 14, why cant she have sex?!?!” She doesn’t understand why some of her readers ” have a problem with Dani’s choices with the types of shows on TV these days. Like they don’t have a show on TV called 14 & pregnant!” She repeated, “If she can be an assassin, she can have sex.”
* Karen loves the idea of transformation & change. She uses it in a lot of her stories.
* Christian has a “transformation”. “There is no point in going bad, unless its all the way bad, not a little”
* Dani’s Father is irrelevant. She confirmed that it is NOT Ryoden.
* Kat is a major player in the next books and she finds her Soulmate. Kat & her Soulmate storyline will “counterpoint to Dani’s story”.
* Someone asked if we would learn more about the Sidhe Seers background in the next books. Karen said “Great Question…Next”."
and here's some from more about the series...
"* My question: Will we ever get Barrons POV again? KM: ” He is the hardest POV to write so probably not, but never say never. It depends if he talks to me.”
* She wouldn’t answer “Why does Barrons hate the Fae so much?” She said it WILL be explained in further stories
* She confirmed that the V’lane/King/Concubine storyline is not done. We will learn more.
* We may never meet all of the 9, but we will learn more about a few! *Squeee*
* She already knows what will be in the next 5 books, every thing will be explained. *Squee*
* Some of the main characters will die in the next 5 books
* She will know when its time for her to quit writing about the FEVER world, but there is alot more story to tell
* She may write more about the Keltars, but it depends on if “they speak to her in her head”.
* She is inspired by her fans emails, posts & interactions. They keep her going
* She wants her books to be turned into a TV series, not a movie. She has heard nothing about it yet."
wow....who do u think will die??

"* Every chapter in ICED is a song title except one, “Can you guess which one?”
* She never had a problem writing about Dani’s age. “If we didn’t watch her grow, we would be missing out on what makes Dani the woman she becomes. If she started Dani at 17, we would miss some of the first moments of sexual awakening & her character development. We get to watch her grow & be shaped.”
..."
WOW... Jo...lol
I loved attitude toward Dani... the world is changing!!
Kat finding her soulmate?? Hmm...
You can check my review for a detailed answer but in short
- I enjoyed Dani as the narrator
- Ryodan is badass and sexy
- I see no romance between those two
- it was funny
- Dancer is intriguing
- not much of Mac
- the Crimson Hag is a scary creature I want to see more of
Readinmama wrote: "I don't think Dani is his mate, but i hope he gets a HEA in this series."
Since the series is more UF than romance in my opinion... Are we sure Dani will get a HEA at the end of her trilogy? Maybe she looses her virginity but her HEA is more of finding a family and that kind of love and not romantic love. Then, when she is older, she could be Christian's HEA.
I'm just throwing ideas out there.