Paranormal Romance & Urban Fantasy discussion

She's independent in a mature for her age type of independence. She can make dinner for herself and get herself off to school but when it came to independence away from Edward, she couldn't do that. She proved she was immature in the aspect of she knew him a few months and whenhe left, she suddenly couldn't take that and needed to fill his spot with whomever. Independence in one scenario does not equate to independence in all scenarios of life.

Bella did not try to fill Edward's place with Jacob. They were just friends; she didn't see him that way at all, and had no idea for quite some time that he saw her with romantic interest. Not to mention that he was one of the few people who knew what Edward really was, and understood the whole situation. She didn't really have anyone else to go to who would understand.

When Edward left, he was not just some boy that she dated for a few months; he was the love of her life. He not only left her, but he took all her plans for the future with him. Her entire world suddenly came crashing down around her. Bella had zero prior dating experience to help her out, and she was only 18. I think its normal to just try to get by any way you can, when you have been so completely devastated.

I read Twilight and I thought it was just OK.
This is a good book for a young teenager but not really for me. I found it boring and repetitive. "I love him, he's so beautiful, I can't live with out him, he likes me, he doesn't like me"...on and on..

I mean it wasn't horrible but I don't get why people have gone crazy over it like it's the best book ever written because honestly it's just not. A lot more Hype then anything else in my opinion.

But if the hype over this book makes just one person who doesn't usually read..pick it up and read a book for enjoyment maybe for the first time ever..then I'm all for it.

Even my 9 year old asked me if she could read this book.

If you want to read a GREAT vampire book then read the Ann Rice novels. :)

Glad to know there are lots of people just as crazy about Jacob and Edward as I am. I cannot believe how worked up we all get over these Vampires / Werewolfs.
I read these books in three days cause they were impossible to put down.
I get very defensive of the Characters in these books, its like they are my real friends....

Does that mean I have no life outside of my books???

If it does then thats ok with me.

I have one question though
How can you people be ok with swapping books??? I am so addicted to these books I dont let anyone touch my bookshelf let alone borrow a book.

See I told you... Im pathetic, but ok to stay that way

For some reason, probably because every one seems to love these books I have been hestitant to read them. Saw Twilight in a 3 for 2 offer the other day and bought it.

Well only half way through but love it and have forced myself to put it down so I make it last, it was not what I expected, reads more grown up than I thought it would for YA

I felt the same way Paula - then I LOVED Twilight! I'm almost finished with New Moon now. I'm so glad I decided to pick them up. The series is really addictive.

After reading the book, it's really hard for me to see either Pattinson or Stewart in the roles of Bella and Edward - I'm just not sure they're the best actors for the roles, but I am going to see the movie.

I'll tell you what I think is so nauseating about the whole thing Kathy: it's the way some fans of the series are so enamored of all things Twilight, that when you offer up a little criticisim on the subject they jump at you like rabid animals! I mean, I am enjoying the series so far, but it's no literary masterpiece. And I'm entitled to my opinion just like everybody else.

I really enjoyed the books when I read them a couple of months ago, but as more time passes and I get distance from my initial impressions, my opinion is changing... instead of giving them 5 stars (with the exception of Breaking Dawn which shall stay at its measley 3-stars and be thankful it is getting that many!), I'm thinking I really should change them to 4-stars.

They are very grab-you-by-the-throat-and-don't-let-you-go when you read them, but... well, let me put it this way, I donated my copies to Goodwill because I know I would never had read them again. The too-easy HEA in Breaking Dawn put a stain on the previous books for me.

However, I do plan to go see the movie... probably a couple weekends after it opens to avoid the craziness. :)

i just started the series (mostly over the hubbub and the impending movie, and well, vampires). only a chapter in but i can tell this is a guilty pleasure move for me. i'm trying to decide if i should just read the southern vampire series as well as long as i'm already going to do this one. twilight versus the southern vampire series?

Hm, I don't think I'll like the movie as much as the books, but I plan to see it anyway, just for fun. It's nice to see the director's view of the events I've imagined (though my version will always be better, LOL ;) Probably going to see it a while after it comes out to avoid the teens. (They always ruin a movie for me. I don't remember being that annoying when I was younger.)

I really enjoyed the books when I read them a couple of months ago, but as more time passes and I get distance from my initial impressions, my opinion is changing... instead of giving them 5 stars (with the exception of Breaking Dawn which shall stay at its measley 3-stars and be thankful it is getting that many!), I'm thinking I really should change them to 4-stars.

Theresa, this is how I feel about the series now. They were not as great as I once thought they were. I was all over them last year but I've read stuff that had so much more.

I am not going to see the movie. I'll watch it on HBO. LOL. I'm already negative about it considering I hate the actors with the exception of Carlisle and Esme and Charlie and even Jacob. Kirsten is okay but that's cuz I like her anyway. I feel like its' going to be an epic fail but I could be wrong.

Tessa -

I've read and enjoyed both series, but they are definitely guilty pleasure reads. With the Twilight series, the reader is immersed in the romance of Bella and Edward and the plot is kind of secondary. In the southern vampire series, its all about the laughter. There were parts of those books that I had tears in my eyes from laughting out loud. Depending on what you're looking for, I highly recommend both series.

Happy reading!

I highly enjoyed the Twilight series. No one can put you on an emotional roller-coaster quite like Stephenie Meyer can. That said, are they the best books ever written? Of course not. Enjoy them for what they are.

I will say that all of the rabid teenage girls are sort of ruining it for the rest of us, not to mention giving us normal readers a bad name.

I'm not in love with the casting choices, but I will go see the movie. Who knows, maybe it won't be as bad as I think it will be. I still love the books though.

There is a pretty cool article on Robert Pattinson (Edward in the movie, Twilight) here.

He sounds like a pretty down to earth guy - pretty much like the boy-next-door.

Hoosier -

thank you! i think i just might. it's a long winter. :)

I'd recommend you read them both. They are two very different series. Twilight is for YA's and Sookie is definitely written for a more mature audience.

Maybe it's just me but I sure don't feel guilty about reading this genre. PNR and Urban Fantasy...with a little erotica thrown it...is all I read and there's no guilt involved whatsoever!

Curl up under a blanket with a cup of your favorite hot beverage and enjoy!

So, did anyone else go see the movie this weekend? I have to admit, I loved it. Except for some of the parts that were corny in the book that translated the same way in the movie (sparkling vampires? puh-lease!).

It doesn't come out till 10th December where I come from. I hate waiting. I've already got my tickets.

I saw the movie this weekend as well. It was decent overall, but not nearly as good as the book. I thought they made the other high school boys a bit too stupid and annoying. A lot of the subtle humor from the book was lost, making the movie a little too melodramatic and heavy with teenage angst. They changed a lot of small things, which bugged the crap out of me. (Hello!!! It was the wrong Volvo!!!) I also thought that Casrlisle and Jasper were especially miscast; the rest of the casting was pretty good. The movie wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, but it wasn't as good as it could have been either.

Okay, let me ask the question no one likes me to ask, *snicker*. Would you have enjoyed the movie if you hadn't read the book?

Gina, I probably would have thought the movie was way too angsty and, well, weak without reading the books first. The initial falling in love between Bella and Edward felt a little rushed in the movie. One scene they are spatting about how he doesn't want to be friends with her for her own good and the next scene (it felt like anyway) they are professing their love for each other and can't live without one another.

:)

Hmm... well now, that does seem rushed, doesn't it? Right now, with Christmas around the corner and gifts and food I have yet to buy, I can't afford to go to the movies (where I live, it's almost $15 a person to get in, not including popcorn, drink, etc...). Do you think it's DVD worthy? Cause that's about the only way I'll get to watch it. :(

Gina, I plan to order the DVD when it becomes available. :)

Awesome... thanks!

I just got home from the movie and I really liked it. Some parts were a little cheesy and I agree the relationship between Bella and Edward developed at warp speed but it's a movie and they only had so much time to get everything in.

To be honest, my husband had not read the book and he said he enjoyed the movie. I was like Lori, thought some things were a a bit cheesy, and some things moved too fast. I also didn't like the way the friends looked - all of them looked stupid and childish... which wasn't the point behind the book. Even the girls did. They cut out a few things, but that's expected. But mostly I found they cut out too much "Character" of the movie by taking out the friends' relationships and the scenes in the lunch room that were so clear in the book.

The movie is like a cliff's notes version of the book. You get the general gist of the story, but it loses a lot of the feeling and essence.

That's understandable. I've never seen a movie that completely portrays a book properly so that you really get the same feeling. Not too long ago, I read Practical Magic by Alice Hoffman. I actually liked the movie a lot more than I enjoyed the book - go figure, LOL!

I liked the Practical Magic movie better than the book, too Gina. That one and Stardust by Neal Gaiman have been my only two movies that I prefered over the books behind them.

I think I liked the Bourne movies better than the books, but action movies lend themselves well to film adaptations and Matt Damon did it _well_, LOL. ;) Have yet to see Twilight though.

Bourne series: I was disappointed when the movies didn't really turn out at all like the books. However, the books are pretty good as the books, and the movies (if you'd never read the books) are awesome.

Yeah, the movies are absolutely nothing like the books, LOL, but I loved the movies. I read the books after.

I had read all 4 books long before the movie and I wasn't expecting the movie to be exactly like the book. I loved it. Yes, some parts were pretty "cheesy" and I was surprised that they left out the "do I dazzle you" line in the restaurant when it was obvious the waitress was practically drooling over Edward.

What was with that waitress, anyway? In the book, she was pretty. Bella was supposed to be intimidated by her. The waitress in the movie... I can't imagine feeling threatened by her. I'd be more hard pressed not to laugh.

I just read an article saying that the director (Catherine Hardwick) will not be directing New Moon. I have to say, I'm pretty happy about this. I thought a lot of the issues I had with the movie were the likely result of poor directing, and I have been hoping for a new director. The article also said that New Moon is tentatvely scheduled for release late 2009/early 2010.

I wonder how they're going to make that an interesting movie... it was kind of a tedious book. Generally most people's least favorite of the series, based on the people I've talked to.
And if people thought sparkling vampires were cheesey... Edward speaking to Bella through her subconscious when she does dangerous stuff? I had hard time swallowing that one, myself.

Oh, and also, I hope they're planning on recasting Jacob.

I liked New Moon better than Twilight even if it was a little bleak. In New Moon the sadness and grief is drawn so well and Jacob's efforts for Bella are achingly sweet. A lot of people seem to be displeased with the actor playing Jacob in the movie, so I hope he's recast too. He's supposed to be hot in the next one, LOL.

As if vampires are not cheesy? They're going to pick bones at "sparkling"? LOL. I don't understand people sometimes.

I hope they recast Jacob too---he was wrong, wrong, wrong in the Twilight movie, at least in my opinion. Not at all what my brain came up with reading the books! I hope they don't down play the time that Bella spent w/o Edward because it will not do justice to the relationship building between Bella and Jacob.

I'm a huge Twilight fan (I've read all the books) and I thought Twilight the movie was terrible. The casting was waaay off for a lot of the characters and some of the acting was not good. C. Cullen and a few others dye jobs were awful, the directing was blah and the special effects were cheesetastic. I was very disappointed, but I'm glad that there will be a new director and I'm hoping for some recasting. Oh and how cheesy was Stephenie's cameo? LAME

That cameo was terrible! I started snickering and when my sister asked what was funny, I pointed it out to her. She thought is was cool - I thought is was corny. There you go... differences in opinion. :)

I think those of us who have read the book(s) will mostly have differences of opinions from those who haven't. *shrug* For those who have, we compare the movie to the books. For those who haven't, have not a clue to what is missing. I'd say that balances it.

okay, so I started Twilight
I had to see what all the fuss was about. And so far, I don't get it. Good news: the language flows smoothly so it's an easy read. Bad news: I'm on chapter three and NOTHING has happened- page 26 and this chick is still mooning about Edward Cullen- oh yeah well he did finally talk to her. I usually give a book 200 pages before I give up. But if something doesn't start moving soon- I don't know. I'm 45 after all and not getting any younger.
Stephanie Meyer isn't any Laurell K. Hamilton.

LOL, Irene. It is YA.

Irene wrote: "okay, so I started book:Twilight|41865]
...But if something doesn't start moving soon- I don't know. I'm 45 after all and not getting any younger.
Stephanie Meyer isn't any Laurell K. Hamilton. "

LOL

okay according the conversation these vampires- the cold ones- have been around for a hundred years or something. Jacob's great grandfather made them- the same ones we see today agree to stay off reservation land.
So if these vampires have been around that long, why are they in high school?

They explain that later, Irene. The younger they pretend to be when they first enter a town, the longer they can plausibly live in it. HS is the youngest they can pull off. They were changed around that age.

Hehe... Okay, um, the "cold-ones" weren't made by the Jake's grandfather, the vampires already existed. Jake's forefathers were the first werewolves that came into existence because of the presence of the vampires. I think it's in Eclipse that you get the whole background on that. And the Cullen kids are in school because they were all changed at a young age, so in order to blend in with society, they have to do what kids their "age" would be doing.

Irene, I've put off reading these too, my sister gave them to me, but I just don't think they will be my idea of a good book. I LOVE YA and I LOVE Paranormal, but these just sound, not up my alley.

Carlisle and the other Cullens were around back at the time of Jacob's grandfather (or great grandfather?), but then they left and came back. So they haven't been around the whole time. At the time Bella shows up in town, they've only been back for 2 or 3 years. So it's not like they've been in high school there for 100 years.