Kafka on the Shore
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What did the amorphous white blob symbolize?

I thought I was doing pretty well understanding this book until Toro's instruction to Hoshino that he had to destroy the white blob that emerged from Nakata before it could get through the open entrance stone. What do you think the white blob was/symbolized? I understand that shutting the entrance stone was important, but, the white blob seemed superfluous.
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the prophecy thing seems most accurate to me-- and i also thought it was kafka's sexuality. i know i'm a pervert -.- lol, but i recently just had a conversation with one of my friends and we were talking about how gross and scary a certain male reproductive organ can look; i believe she called it "the one-eyed monster" lol. having just had that conversation with her and then immediately reading the chapter i thought it was kafka's cock. well not literally his cock but a metaphor for the cock that "violated his mother, and was now in his sister". it was pretty much the main ingredient essential for fulfilling the prophecy and i think if it had successfully gone through the entrance stone he would have had a harder time restraining himself against his father's curse.
...he even says during a couple of his hard-ons that it seemed like the thing had a mind of it's own.
...he even says during a couple of his hard-ons that it seemed like the thing had a mind of it's own.
I did as well - or like, the evil that his father was/represented.
My rule of them reading these books, also, is to try and understand some symbolism, but to also accept that some of it may not mean anything at all/may mean several things/is open to interpretation of the reader--as a very literal reader, Murakami has been an exercise for me to open my mind a bit and appreciate his writing for what it is rather than constantly trying to understand every little thing about it.
My rule of them reading these books, also, is to try and understand some symbolism, but to also accept that some of it may not mean anything at all/may mean several things/is open to interpretation of the reader--as a very literal reader, Murakami has been an exercise for me to open my mind a bit and appreciate his writing for what it is rather than constantly trying to understand every little thing about it.
I think the white blob is Kafka's father. When Nakata told Hoshino about his life, he said the Johnnie Walker lived inside him make leeches raining.
I thought the white blob was the curse/prophecy that his father made. In an earlier chapter, the boy called crow tried to kill his father, but couldn't do it completely, because his father's will lived on (even though his body was destroyed).
It may be the fate or the luck
I didn't love the novel except his techinque of writing but as I should ask my self what did add to me as a reader and a writer ?? nothing but the speach about the liberary and the books , non- logic events and no reasons for these events , pull shits , by this way any one have the ability to write a novel and didn't find the topic to write about can say any illogical things and events and make a novel :)
I didn't love the novel except his techinque of writing but as I should ask my self what did add to me as a reader and a writer ?? nothing but the speach about the liberary and the books , non- logic events and no reasons for these events , pull shits , by this way any one have the ability to write a novel and didn't find the topic to write about can say any illogical things and events and make a novel :)
Go to page 20 of Wind Up Bird Chronicle. You would see that it is a being that represents death.
I, even more so after reading this book, am pretty sure that metaphors and symbols have many different levels. At a certain level, I think, the blob does represent Kafka's father, but as far as the big picture is concerned I think it represents the subconscious filth that Nakata's been given because of growing up during the war; and because of his unusual smarts, he has tried to intuitively get rid of them and saw that as his main assignment (he didn't really give a damn about anything else, unless eel of course)
I am of opinion that people, children up to age 15 even more so, have ways of feeling the enviroment (physical) and the energy (metaphysical) behind them; but when something pure gets struck by something unpure and is too young or naive to comprehend it, it means the unpure (a social product like war or damaged human being) will sooner or later start to haunt him in ways unimaginable. For one will always see that energy, which was unjustly thrown onto him, as a part of himself and that energy will always seem to him like a haunting, unrecognizable and therefore unbeatable ghost.
Considering that, Johnnie Walker and Colonel Sanders could be two of the other (13?) kids that got caught up in the woods picking mushrooms. That would also explain the fact that other people couldn't see them but could see the only one who didn't die, Nakata. These two kids, helplessly innocent and naive at age 15, took upon themselves the energy of capitalism, which was softly but in a way pretty violently brought into the public conscience after USA dropped the 2 bombs onto Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
In that way, Nakata (pretty surprisingly; all the while I was reading this book I treated him as a major dweeb) becomes the true hero, because he was the only one of the kids who didn't accept the dark energy that was offered to him in the forest. He did have to fight it though and thus it left a strong mark in him (his seemingly low intellectual levels). That kind of energy you can only beat with calmness and knowledge because otherwise it will tear you apart and eat you up. Nakata, even as a 15 y.o. had the spirit of a samurai; he had knowledge, grit and principles to face it and despite being made a fool afterwards, even the shallowest of people (Hoshino) could feel him. And cats, they could feel him too, but they probably behold similar levels of intuition.
I am of opinion that people, children up to age 15 even more so, have ways of feeling the enviroment (physical) and the energy (metaphysical) behind them; but when something pure gets struck by something unpure and is too young or naive to comprehend it, it means the unpure (a social product like war or damaged human being) will sooner or later start to haunt him in ways unimaginable. For one will always see that energy, which was unjustly thrown onto him, as a part of himself and that energy will always seem to him like a haunting, unrecognizable and therefore unbeatable ghost.
Considering that, Johnnie Walker and Colonel Sanders could be two of the other (13?) kids that got caught up in the woods picking mushrooms. That would also explain the fact that other people couldn't see them but could see the only one who didn't die, Nakata. These two kids, helplessly innocent and naive at age 15, took upon themselves the energy of capitalism, which was softly but in a way pretty violently brought into the public conscience after USA dropped the 2 bombs onto Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
In that way, Nakata (pretty surprisingly; all the while I was reading this book I treated him as a major dweeb) becomes the true hero, because he was the only one of the kids who didn't accept the dark energy that was offered to him in the forest. He did have to fight it though and thus it left a strong mark in him (his seemingly low intellectual levels). That kind of energy you can only beat with calmness and knowledge because otherwise it will tear you apart and eat you up. Nakata, even as a 15 y.o. had the spirit of a samurai; he had knowledge, grit and principles to face it and despite being made a fool afterwards, even the shallowest of people (Hoshino) could feel him. And cats, they could feel him too, but they probably behold similar levels of intuition.
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May 12, 2013 07:49AM
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I guess it means "nothing great, don't expect to be amazed by the end."
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