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message 1: by Knarik (new)

Knarik I LOVE THE LOST. What do you think about it? How do you accept the characters, and the plot? This movie captured all my attention.
Let's discuss it!


message 2: by RandomAnthony (new)

RandomAnthony | 14536 comments You mean the show? I've never seen it. I'm serious. That and American Idol, until my friend Preston seared my eyes with that video today.


message 3: by Matthieu (new)

Matthieu | 1009 comments American Idol brings out the worst in me.


message 4: by Sarah (last edited Mar 18, 2009 05:12PM) (new)

Sarah (songgirl7) Do you mean this movie? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0451102/
Never heard of it until now.

Or do you mean the ABC TV show? And should this thread get moved to the Film/TV/Books folder? Also, the Twilight thread? Like I said, I love compartmentalizing.


message 5: by Knarik (new)

Knarik it is a movie which the ABC is showing every Wendsday. It is science-fiction. And very- very interesting. I don't like and don't watch the American Idol either


message 6: by Sarah (new)

Sarah (songgirl7) Oh, the TV show, LOST. Yeah, I watch it. I'm not that into it this season. The whole time-tavel thing is weird. But it still keeps me watching.


message 7: by Knarik (last edited Mar 18, 2009 05:55PM) (new)

Knarik It is about people whose airplain crashed and they fell on an Island, which contains a lot of misteries+
Sarah I think you are right about moving this thread. and i haven't heard about that movie in your message, either.


message 8: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 13814 comments I love Lost the TV show. Love may not be a strong enough word. It is my very favorite show, and the only one I will actually schedule life around rather than Tivoing.


message 9: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) I'm watching it now.


message 10: by Knarik (last edited Mar 18, 2009 07:34PM) (new)

Knarik Sarah Pi wrote: "I love Lost the TV show. Love may not be a strong enough word. It is my very favorite show, and the only one I will actually schedule life around rather than Tivoing."

so I have found somebody who thinks exectly as I do. Who is your favourite character?


message 11: by Knarik (new)

Knarik I think that plot is VEEEEEEry interesting. Besides it is not a silly soap-opera. you have to understand what is (was, would) going on. you have to make your own conclusions, it is not simple and I like that.


message 12: by Sarah (new)

Sarah (songgirl7) I'm going in to watch it now.


message 13: by Lori (new)

Lori heheheh, Sun whacked Ben but good tonight, hehehehe.


message 14: by Knarik (new)

Knarik Soyer tried to show that he is the boss now.
ben as a kid with Suid... the idea was interesting. maybe the heros would be able to influence Ben and he wouldn't grow as a Bad guy.


message 15: by Lori (new)

Lori Nope, you can't change the space-time continuum.


message 16: by Knarik (new)

Knarik Do you think that John really died? I think he will be the participant of next serias.


message 17: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 13814 comments Knarik wrote: "I think that plot is VEEEEEEry interesting. Besides it is not a silly soap-opera. you have to understand what is (was, would) going on. you have to make your own conclusions, it is not simple and I..."

I think that's one of the more enjoyable aspects -- it's a less passive TV experience than most. For some reason, it inspires you to freeze-frame and cross-reference and theorize.



message 18: by Sarah (new)

Sarah (songgirl7) Knarik wrote: "Do you think that John really died? I think he will be the participant of next serias."

He did, but once he crashed on the island he came back to life (a few episodes ago). The problem is, he's on the island in 2007, like Sun. So Sun, Ben, and Locke are going to have to figure out how to get to 1977, or Sawyer, Jack, Hurley, Juliet, Jin, Kate, and Sayid will have to figure out how to get back to 2007.

What do you think the significance is of Aaron NOT going back to the island? Didn't they ALL have to go back? When will we find out what happened to him? Kate told Jack not to ask, but I hope we find out.




message 19: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 13814 comments I don't read spoilers for upcoming episodes, and I hate having things spoiled, but I don't think this qualifies as one.


Someone told me today that next week is a Sayid episode, and the week after is a Kate episode. I would assume (and hope!) that next week we find out why Sayid arrived at the plane in handcuffs, and the week after, we would find out what happened with Aaron.




message 20: by Knarik (new)

Knarik I think that Aaron is one of the clues to the mistery, and why don't we think about Sun's kid, too? That kid was on Island ,too, though not born yet, but was.
And I wonder about Desmond.


message 21: by Lori (last edited Mar 19, 2009 05:19PM) (new)

Lori Yes, please no spoilers here, I don't want any! But what you wrote, Sarah PI, I don't consider spoilerific at all.

I figured that Kate took Aaron to his Grandma.

The best episodes seem to involved Desmond.


message 22: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17373 comments Mod
Ok, I've not watched since mid-season 3 when we turned off cable, so I'm going to stop reading this thread.


message 23: by Sarah (new)

Sarah (songgirl7) But the grandma didn't even know Aaron was Claire's.

Do you guys remember the episode way back in season one where we saw Claire's back story about her pregnancy and choice to put the baby up for adoption? Do you remember if there was ANY mention of her mother or parents at all?


message 24: by Lori (new)

Lori I don't think there was, Sarah.

Well, I figure Kate may have told Grandma the sordid story. I don't know. That's a bit simplistic for Lost, ha. I think I tried to think that because otherwise I have baaaaaaad thoughts...But she loved him too much. At least that's what I keep telling myself!

She could have given him to Sawyer's ex.


message 25: by Sarah (new)

Sarah (songgirl7) I can't wait until we find out what Kate did for Sawyer. Remember when they were in the chopper, he whispered something to her before he jumped out? And then when she was living with Jack there was something she did for Sawyer. I assume it was whatever he asked her to do on the chopper.


message 26: by Lori (new)

Lori Oh yes, I figured it had to do with his kid...

I loved last night how Sawyer took charge, heeeeee, I've never liked Jack. Altho I have to say, he seemed very accepting last night, like he's finally done a flip from Mr. Science to Mr. Faith.

I'm not liking what the trailer teased, tho....how can they all become enemies?


message 27: by Sarah (new)

Sarah (songgirl7) I would have loved to see Sawyer tell Jack that he and Juliet were together, and for Kate to overhear.


message 28: by Lori (new)

Lori I adore Juliet, and am afraid that she's going to get hurt again....


message 29: by Knarik (new)

Knarik i don't want to think that they may become enemies!
Do you think that Sawyer will stay with Juliet?


message 30: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) Knarik wrote: "Do you think that Sawyer will stay with Juliet? "

I would.




message 31: by Knarik (last edited Mar 19, 2009 08:45PM) (new)

Knarik Sarah wrote: "But the grandma didn't even know Aaron was Claire's.

Do you guys remember the episode way back in season one where we saw Claire's back story about her pregnancy and choice to put the baby up fo..."


yes Sarah, there was. Do you remember when Claire came to the hospital to see her mother? her mother was unconscious and Claire told her that she is pregnant and is going to give the baby for the adoption. Claire asked her advice.


message 32: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) Last we saw Desmond he was in LA to see Faraday's mum (the weird lady who sent the 6 back to the island again).


message 33: by Knarik (new)

Knarik so i haven't missed anything. i thought something happened after that.


message 34: by Lori (new)

Lori Oh no, not Desmond!

"According to E! Online, a former ABC Entertainment employee filed a harassment and sexual battery claim against Henry Ian Cusick Friday, claiming the Scottish actor groped her and made inappropriate sounds and gestures around her in October 2007 on the Lost set.

Plaintiff Chelsea Stone alleges that, on or about Oct. 16, Cusick "placed his hand on her buttocks" and then caressed her back "while making moaning sounds." He then put his face in her cleavage and wagged his head back and forth, according to the lawsuit filed in Los Angeles Superior Court. He then touched her breasts with his hands and kissed her on the mouth, Stone says.

According to the suit, "plaintiff suffered humiliation and severe mental and emotional distress, and suffered injury when by means of her stress Plaintiff miscarried," causing Stone to incur various medical expenses and suffer 'physical injuries, physical sickness, substantial losses in earnings" and other indignities."


message 35: by Sarah (last edited May 14, 2009 03:32PM) (new)

Sarah | 13814 comments Who watched the season finale?
Knarik?
Larry? Lori?
Talk to me, people!
I thought it was amazing.


ATTENTION! SPOILERS BELOW! READ THE REST OF THIS THREAD AT YOUR OWN RISK!


message 36: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) I wouldn't have missed it. I also thought it was amazing. All that stuff about Jacob, all at once was a little overwhelming. And who was Locke? The guy on the beach at the beginning who said he wanted to kill Jacob?

Talk about a cliff hanger!


message 37: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 13814 comments Yeah, I think that's who he was. Which makes me wonder if that guy is the one who has been running around pretending to be dead people throughout the whole series. Or if he and Jacob both have that power.

My bassist texted me "so the whole show comes down to god vs. the devil?" but I'm not sure it's that black and white - except, y'know, one was wearing black, and the other wearing white. Who's the good guy? I was leaning toward Jacob... but Jacob was the one advocating pre-destination, and the other guy was more of a forge-your-own-fate dude.




message 38: by Lori (new)

Lori Yeah, alot of people are speculating it's a Jacob/Esau situation. And that the evil force is impersonating Locke, and set out to kill Jacob as he promised in the very first scene.

As for pre-destination, Jacob was advocating free choice to Ben, so I'm not sure about his Calvinism. But didn't it seem that he was goading Ben to kill him, the way he taunted him back with "What about you?".

And it's ironic that Juliette is the one who set off the bomb that was probably the cause for no one on the island being able to have babies, and that she was specifically brought to the island to fix that.

We've seen the black and white alot during the show - the backgammon set, and wasn't someone in a cave clutching 2 items that were also black and white?


message 39: by Lori (new)

Lori Oh and someone pointed this out: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_n3eH1jI8AZ8...


message 40: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) Oh wow, Lori!


message 41: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 13814 comments Lori - good theories! I definitely think you're right about the bomb being responsible for the infertility problem.
The producers have said for years that you can find a lot of examples of black and white props in the background if you look for them. And in the very first episode, with the backgammon, Locke told Walt "one side is dark and the other is light"

I thought that final scene with un-Locke and Ben and Jacob was fascinating. Ben regressed to the neglected child he had always been.

I didn't get an Esau vibe from the other guy, though that's the obvious guess. God and Lucifer is the other, and I like that one a little better.

I have a theory that I can't back up at all, about the Fisher King/the Wounded king. There isn't a clear enemy in that story, though. I'm trying to think of other mythological pairs.




message 42: by Lori (new)

Lori Good luck Sarah!

So I'm trying to wrap my brain around all this. It was the faux-Locke in the guise of faux-Christian who instructed Locke that he had to get off the island and make a sacrifice of himself. Gah.


message 43: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) Seems that way, Lori.


message 44: by Lori (new)

Lori The Egyptian crocodile god looks familiar!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sobek


message 45: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) That's it. It was holding the same object, too.


message 46: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 13814 comments Huh - and check out the rivalry between Horus & Set

http://www.touregypt.net/featurestori...
"Set was a god of hostility and chaos. Some people held the belief that he was the epitome of evil. He was an adversary to Osiris and Horus. Sobek is considered to be a cohort of Horus. It is said that Horus took the form of a crocodile to retrieve the parts of Osiris’ body that Set had discarded in the waters of Egypt. Set was later killed after an eighty-year war with Horus, in which Set tore out the left eye of Horus, and Horus tore out the testicles of Set."


message 47: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 13814 comments Re #43 One of my co-workers is really upset about that. He pointed out what Richard said about checking in on Locke several times over the years and never finding anything special about him.
Locke - like Ben -desperately wanted to be special - but maybe he never has been? Was he just a pawn? Poor Locke.




message 48: by Lori (new)

Lori I still think, somehow, that Locke will again live. Crazy.

There's just so much to think about with this finale. Ilana asking if Lapidus is a candidate. And knowing Jacob, as in that hospital scene.

As Jacob was dying, he said "They're coming." Who?

Heh. Someone just suggested that Jacob comes back to reanimate Locke's dead body, so we have the 2 groups fighting for supremacy each led by a Locke!


message 49: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 13814 comments Someone here also suggested that Lapidus might be "a candidate" to host Jacob - sinmilar to your idea about Locke vs. Locke. I love that my office is all abuzz with Lost today instead of Idol.

"They're coming" -- I would guess either his people on the beach (Ilana et al), or Jack/Kate/Sawyer/etc (all of the people he touched in flashbacks).


message 50: by Lori (last edited May 14, 2009 03:07PM) (new)

Lori Oooooh, a hosting candidate. Sweet.

And now I'm thinking of Mr. Eko, who says he saw the devil (with the black smoke). So I'm liking your God/Lucifer naming, Sarah.


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