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message 1: by Empress (new)

Empress (the_empress) Would an "easy reader abridged edition" stay combined with the full work or separated?


message 2: by lethe (new)

lethe | 16359 comments I think they should be separated, like adaptations. Earlier today I came across two publisher's series with abridged classics for children. Most of them were indeed separated from the main work and had the adapter as primary author.


message 3: by Empress (new)

Empress (the_empress) Thanks :)


Elizabeth (Alaska) That series isn't necessarily the same thing. I think this is a situation we should wait to hear from Rivka.


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Empress (the_empress) Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "That series isn't necessarily the same thing. I think this is a situation we should wait to hear from Rivka."

The edition I'm asking about is 1000 headword level.

Will wait for rivka, but here it is: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8...


Elizabeth (Alaska) I think that one should be separated because I think it is an adaptation.

https://www.worldcat.org/title/death-...

Some of the easy reader are not so clear, so this may be one of those situations that gets determined on a case by case basis. I have left some and I have separated some.


message 8: by lethe (new)

lethe | 16359 comments In the same vein, 'retold' editions should always be separate from the full work, right?


message 9: by rivka, Former Moderator (last edited May 27, 2015 01:18PM) (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
In general, abridgements should NOT be separated from the unabridged works.

As Elizabeth said, "easy reader" editions can vary greatly. Some are merely abridgements; some are actually adaptations.

Edit: homophone


message 10: by Empress (new)

Empress (the_empress) rivka wrote: "In general, abridgements should NOT be separated from the unabridged works.

As Elizabeth said, "easy reader" editions can vary greatly. Some are merely abridgements; some or actually adaptations."


I've seen some adaptations are being kept separated as well. I'm not really planning on going and fixing any of those unless I see any obvious ones.

Thanks.

Another question. Few of the easy readers and English learner books I've seen on Worldcat say "adapted by" and then authors name. Is that a good source for telling if a work is adapted or is it not reliable.

Also wold level/word count and page difference matter? I think 1000 words is one of the lowest?


message 11: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Ellie [The Empress] wrote: "Another question. Few of the easy readers and English learner books I've seen on Worldcat say "adapted by" and then authors name. Is that a good source for telling if a work is adapted or is it not reliable."

I would not rely on that alone, but it is a piece of information, and in combination with other pieces, may provide a clear picture. (Or not.)


Ellie [The Empress] wrote: "Also wold level/word count and page difference matter?"

The question is whose words are in the book: the original author's (but not all of them) or someone else's? Reading level and word count alone don't tell you that.


message 12: by lethe (new)

lethe | 16359 comments rivka wrote: "The question is whose words are in the book: the original author's (but not all of them) or someone else's?"

Ah, OK. I think I can work with that. So a 'retold' edition has someone else's words.


message 13: by rivka, Former Moderator (last edited May 27, 2015 01:51PM) (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Usually, yes.

Translations get sticky, of course.


message 14: by lethe (new)

lethe | 16359 comments If a translated edition says on the title page (or the cover) that it's 'retold by...' I think we can safely assume it is different from a normal translation.


message 15: by Empress (new)

Empress (the_empress) What about this one: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...

Here is worldcat: http://www.worldcat.org/title/peter-a...

Doesn't mention Prokofiev at all


message 16: by Empress (last edited Aug 06, 2015 11:50AM) (new)

Empress (the_empress) How about this one: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...

it's the default edition with nearly 5k adds, however it is adaptation with primary author J.R. Cuenot. Se worldcat: http://www.worldcat.org/title/don-qui...

141 pages, comes with an hour long VHS.


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