Sci-fi and Heroic Fantasy discussion

I think this is an okay list there are a few more I would add like "Firefly" and maybe "Torchwood"


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The List:


Dark Angel (2000-2002)
Earth: Final Conflict (1997-2002)
Earth 2 (1994)
In the Flesh (2013-2014)
Journeyman (2007)
Real Humans/Äkta Människor (2012-)
Life on Mars (2006-2007) (UK original)
Seven Days (1998-2001)
Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (2008-2009)
Farscape (1999-2003)

Daniel wrote: "I think this is an okay list there are a few more I would add like "Firefly"

With the possible exception of Buffy, I can't think of any SF/F TV show that gets more love from fen than Firefly.

Ultraviolet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultravi...

Babylon 5 seems to be often overlooked.

G33z3r wrote: "Daniel wrote: "I think this is an okay list there are a few more I would add like "Firefly"

With the possible exception of Buffy, I can't think of any SF/F TV show that gets more love from fen th..."

It is true it gets fan love it is not run into the ground like the Star Trek shows which I still love but after the 100th time watching the same plot scenarios gets a little old.

Nice list, I'm glad they thought of Terminator and Journeyman.
Just like Firefly, I'm not sure Farscape doesn't get love, they did make the tv miniseries after its cancellation (and I say that as a big fan of both).

I would defiantly add Andromeda.

I wish they would remake Andromeda. According to Majel- Gene wanted it to be the future of Star Trek (aka same universe... same Federation... just fast forward). So I would like for it to be put in line. Also for them to fix that last season. That was crap.

I was also thinking Alien Nation but that might be to far off into the left

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_Na...

I was a fan of Farscape from early on, and I think it gets plenty of love.

Shows on the list that I watched and loved and agree didn't get/don't get the love: Earth 2 and Terminator: The Sarah Conner Chronicles.

Of more recent vintage, I'd add "Terra Nova". Enjoyed watching this with my son. It was a cool concept with some great actors. It was coming into its own by the end of Season 1, but just never got the chance to get better.

G33z3r wrote: "Daniel wrote: "I think this is an okay list there are a few more I would add like "Firefly"

With the possible exception of Buffy, I can't think of any SF/F TV show that gets more love from fen th..."

Firefly absolutely rules :)

I am surprised nobody mentioned Fringe. IMO that is a great show but its unfortunate that nobody seems to have heard of it.

I love fringe currently on the final season of it

These are not in order just 10 that i can think of
1. Star Wars Clone Wars
1. Firefly
3. V 2009 version
4. The Outer Limits (just cuz no one remembers it)
5. Green Lantern The Animated Series
6. Falling Skies
7. Warehouse 13
8. Alcatraz
9. Thundercats (2009)
10. Tron Uprising
A lot of these shows got canceled from not enough love.
Oh yeah i forgot another good one, so call it.
10b. Terminator The Sara Connor Chronicles

I have all the Outer Limits episodes & the old Twilight Zones. The latter also struggled a lot before finally being cancelled.

Jim wrote: "I have all the Outer Limits episodes & the old Twilight Zones. The latter also struggled a lot before finally being cancelled."
Who wants to go to Jim's house for an Outer Limits marathon?!!!

Lessee...Farscape, Lexx, The Invisible Man (for Darren, aka Friends' Drunk Bobby), Earth 2, Firefly, Babylon 5, DS9 (so under sung), Dark Angel (for pre-Supernatural Jenson Ackles), Tru Calling, Dollhouse (the superb Eliza Dushku in both), Agents of Shield (last year), Caprica (who isn't rooting for Magda on Continuum!?).

Bobby wrote: "Who wants to go to Jim's house for an Outer Limits marat..."

I should have said the original Outer Limits. There are only 1.5 seasons of them, a total of 49 (32 S1 & 17 S2) not the 7 seasons of the remake in the mid 90's. Still, it would make for a long marathon.

I was going to suggest you buy them since I think I got them for about $30, but I see they're crazy expensive on Amazon now - $80. My set only has 7 double sided DVD's, not the 14 they say they're selling here:
http://www.amazon.com/Outer-Limits-Co...

It's $200 for all 7 series of the 1995. I seem to recall seeing a few of those & not being impressed. I never cared for the remakes of the Twilight Zone, either. The special effects were certainly better, but the acting was not up to the same standards. Maybe it's just because I grew up with the old ones, though. They are some of the first shows I remember clearly.

I also remember my father & mother getting into an argument about whether to watch Jackie Gleason or the Outer Limits. That's what killed the original series. It's time slot was moved to possibly the worst time slot available. Kind of a familiar theme that runs through many of our favorite shows listed here. If they didn't destroy them that way, they'd stick them in a Saturday afternoon slot & not tell anyone (Firefly).

The old black and whites, even cooler, i loved that show, both times.

Bobby wrote: "These are not in order just 10 that i can think of
1. Star Wars Clone Wars
1. Firefly
3. V 2009 version
4. The Outer Limits (just cuz no one remembers it)
5. Green Lantern The Animated Series
6. Fa..."

I'm looking forward to the final season of Falling Skies! It's been an up and down ride (the first season is still my favorite), but I hope they wrap things up well. The Mason family had better live to see better days!

When I noticed Bryan Fuller's name attached to the American Gods series on Starz, it reminded me of two quirky, whimsical fantasies he's helmed that tragically never found an audience:

Dead Like Me
Georgia is killed by a toilet that falls from Mir (Soviet space station). She's brought back to serve as a Reaper, and each morning meets with her supernatural boss (Mandy Patinkin) at the pancake house to get the assignment for the day's soul harvesting. (Ran on US Showtime premium cable network.)

Pushing Daisies
Ned runs a pie bakery/restaurant, but he also has the strange ability to bring the dead back to life with his touch — at least for a short time. (Ran on US ABC broadcast network.)

G33z3r wrote: "When I noticed Bryan Fuller's name attached to the American Gods series on Starz, it reminded me of two quirky, whimsical fantasies he's helmed that tragically never found an audience:

Dead Like ..."

Those shows are two of my very favorites. It's really a shame they got cancelled (IIRC Pushing daisies started off to great ratings, then had a huge break because of the writers's strike and the ratings crumbled).
Fuller co-created another show, Wonderfalls, and anyone who liked Dead like me or Pushing daisies should enjoy this as well. Unfortunately it's even shorter (13 episodes) but the ending is not a frustrating cliffhanger.

Kivrin wrote: "Bobby wrote: "These are not in order just 10 that i can think of
1. Star Wars Clone Wars
1. Firefly
3. V 2009 version
4. The Outer Limits (just cuz no one remembers it)
5. Green Lantern The Animate..."

Hey Kivrin, I'm not too sure it is coming back out. I think it would have been on by now and when I look on IMDB, there was no mention of a 5th season, guess it wasn't getting enough love. Now i have no post apocalyptic show to watch and NO i'm not watching the walking dead. Tried but no thanks i think that show sucked. It takes 3 seasons for it to really get going. No thanks.

Bobby wrote: "Kivrin wrote: "Bobby wrote: "These are not in order just 10 that i can think of
1. Star Wars Clone Wars
1. Firefly
3. V 2009 version
4. The Outer Limits (just cuz no one remembers it)
5. Green Lant..."

Falling Skies, Season 5 (the final one) premieres on June 28. And since they know it's the final season, they get to wrap it all up!

V.W. wrote: "Ultraviolet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultravi..."

Such a shame that only one person has mentioned Ultraviolet. Now there's something that really doesn't get talked about enough. A different level of quality, at least by the end (it's a slow show, which includes not really showing its hand until the end).

And who doesn't love Idris Elba in one of the greatest, smartest wordless scenes ever filmed?

Incidentally, current show: iZombie. Not a legendary-level show, but really good. Wasn't sure going in if it would be great or just annoying... by the end, it was great. A quirky supernatural procedural... done right.

It's by the writer of Veronica Mars, and I think of it as sort of halfway between Veronica Mars and Pushing Daisies. Lighter than VM (but gorier and more macabre), and with a potentially annoying supernatural gimmick, but much more grounded and serious than PD. OK, not halfway, say a 4/5ths VM to 1/5th PD? Wait, no, try 3/5ths VM, 1/5th PD, and 1/5th Hannibal...

Kivrin wrote: "Bobby wrote: "Kivrin wrote: "Bobby wrote: "These are not in order just 10 that i can think of
1. Star Wars Clone Wars
1. Firefly
3. V 2009 version
4. The Outer Limits (just cuz no one remembers it)..."

Super sweet, I didn't want it to go on for too many seasons. I'm glad we get to see it come to an end.

iZombie is kind of fun. So was Ultraviolet.

Wastrel wrote: "V.W. wrote: "Ultraviolet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultravi..."

Such a shame that only one person has mentioned Ultraviolet. Now there's something that really doesn't get talked a..."

I was a massive Vampire the Masquerade player back in my teens, pretty much everyone in my circle of friends watched Ultraviolet and loved it.
Pretty much re-defined how we approached vampires during RP.

Since older shows are fair game, one of my favorites back in the day was Quark. It was a spoof of other SF shows and movies, about the crew of a space garbage scow. They did a great episode that was a parody of "Amok Time" from Trek Classic, where one of the crew guys, who was actually a humanoid plant and was very unemotional, came into his mating season and had to pollinate. That sort of thing. :) Not terribly respectful if you're a TruFan of whatever they were spoofing that week, but it was funny.

Phoenix was another fun show that only lasted like half a season or so. Bennu was an alien with a number of psy-type abilities who woke up on Earth after having been asleep for some ridiculously long time, and became a wanderer, searching for a woman of his species who was supposedly on Earth somewhere too. It sort of reminded me of the old Kung Fu series, where the odd guy wanders the country on a mission of his own, showing up, solving a problem for the locals, and then moving on. The premise sounds kind of blah as I type it, but it was a character show and I liked it a lot for the short time it was on.

And I'll admit I loved Enterprise. [hides under keyboard] I think my husband and I are the only two people in the US who did. :P I was bummed when they cancelled it.

Angie

"The List:...
Real Humans/Äkta Människor (2012-)...

That's a strange entry on the list, because it wasn't in English (it's Swedish). However, an English-language remake recently debuted on UK Channel 4, and will debut on US AMC next week.

So feel free to give it that love.

I don't know if Carnavale qualifies as fantasy...perhaps it's more paranormal, but it doesn't matter since I don't personally know anyone who watched it to argue the point but I thought it was fantastic. You just know they were given the news at the start of the second season because everything happened all at once and Boom, it was over.

One of my favorite Sci-fi shows that just happened to be on Syfy, was Eureka. Like most Syfy shows, it was cancelled, and they rushed a series finally.

I loved Farscape, Dark Angel and Ultraviolet. I found Wonderfalls really charming, and Tru Calling was pretty interesting.

I still think very highly of Threshold (2005), which starred Carla Gugino (Sin City), Brent Spiner (Star Trek: TNG) and Peter Dinklage (Game of Thrones). It got cancelled very abruptly, but the writers did a phenomenal job of winding up the story with very little notice.

D.K. wrote: "I still think very highly of Threshold (2005)..."

That was such a weird year for alien invasion TV, with 3 US broadcast networks each trying out an alien invasion series.

On CBS it was "Threshold", with aliens beaming strange signals to people.

On ABC it was "Invasion", where aliens landed in the Everglades under cover of a hurricane and started making pod people.

And on NBC it was "Surface", where the aliens lived underwater (I'm not sure if they were off-planet or just alternate, aquatic Earthlings.)

None of them survived — possibly because they split the potential audience. But clearing in 2005, aliens seemed the thing every network had to own.

Bryce wrote: "One of my favorite Sci-fi shows that just happened to be on Syfy, was Eureka. Like most Syfy shows, it was cancelled, and they rushed a series finally."

Syfy routinely puts out great series and cancels them prematurely (IMO). It drives me insane!

Rose wrote: "I don't know if Carnavale qualifies as fantasy...perhaps it's more paranormal, but it doesn't matter since I don't personally know anyone who watched it to argue the point but I thought it was fant..."
That was a truly great show. such a pity it git canceled just when it was truly taking off.

Rose wrote: "I don't know if Carnavale qualifies as fantasy...perhaps it's more paranormal, but it doesn't matter since I don't personally know anyone who watched it to argue the point but I thought it was fant..."

It was certainly a striking and intriguing show, with a great cast as well. I have to say, after watching Carnivale, I was glad to see Tim DeKay in a much less traumatic role in White Collar. :)

The event was in my opinion a very good show.
http://www.nbc.com/classic-tv/the-event
Too bad there was only one season.

G33z3r wrote: "Dead Like Me
Georgia is killed by a toilet that falls from Mir (Soviet space station). She's brought back to serve as a Reaper, and each morning meets with her supernatural boss (Mandy Patinkin) at the pancake house to get the assignment for the day's soul harvesting. (Ran on US Showtime premium cable network.)

Pushing Daisies
Ned runs a pie bakery/restaurant, but he also has the strange ability to bring the dead back to life with his touch — at least for a short time. (Ran on US ABC broadcast network.)."

I loved BOTH of these! And was heartbroken when they were cancelled. Never occurred to me that both were Brian Fuller. Hmm... seems like he's my kind of guy!

Lafayette wrote: "The event was in my opinion a very good show.
http://www.nbc.com/classic-tv/the-event
Too bad there was only one season."

Oooh! That reminds me of Flash Forward! That needed to not be cancelled. In fact- I read the book just to see what would have happened. But the book and the show were far enough apart that the show probably would have had a totally different ending.

With the possible exception of Buffy, I can't think of any SF/F TV show that gets more love from fen th..."

Amen. "Firefly" was a staple for our house. #brokenhearts #goodtv

Natalie wrote: "G33z3r wrote: "Dead Like Me

We loved "Dead Like Me!" Shame, shame...hard to find clever TV shows lately.

Andrea wrote: "Bobby wrote: "These are not in order just 10 that i can think of
1. Star Wars Clone Wars
1. Firefly
3. V 2009 version
4. The Outer Limits (just cuz no one remembers it)
5. Green Lantern The Animate..."

Futurama, Tes, I love that show.

Somebody added "Torchwood," I noticed. Good call! Loved that show!

April wrote: "Somebody added "Torchwood," I noticed. Good call! Loved that show!"

Torchwood, definitely. [nodnod] It was cancelled way too soon. Even the American version could've been adequate, if they'd kept up with it. [sigh]

Angie

Bobby wrote: "Futurama, Tes, I love that show."

I really enjoyed Futurama too! I loved the Hypnotoad.

D.K. wrote: "Bobby wrote: "Futurama, Tes, I love that show."

I really enjoyed Futurama too! I loved the Hypnotoad."

I find myself just stuck brain dead watching Hypnotoad

Daniel wrote: "Ten Sci-Fi Shows That Don't Get Enough Love
....
Real Humans/Äkta Människor (2012-)"

I can't speak for the Swedish original, but after binge watching the first six episodes of the Channel 4/AMC English-language version, "Humans", I think it's pretty amazing, in an Androids Dreaming of Electric Sheep sort of way. It deserves way better ratings than it's getting, IMO. (AMC & Channel 4 recently announced it's been picked up for a 2nd season.)