Mortal Instruments & Infernal Devices Lovers! discussion

I just need clarification between the 2 world... is shadow hunter 100% not visible for humans? or shadow hunter have power to show them self? And when the 2 world are combine when 1 of the book they are serve by ferries and such what happen if a human walk in in this restaurant are they seeing the ferries? i understand the story and all just that lil detail i try get at 100% lol

thanks for anyone that can clarified me on this.

They are, they use what's called glamour to make themselves invisible.

As for the second part (I think I have this correct) if a person is being attacked by a monster and they're mundane then I think it would just appear to them to be like, a dog or some animal that their mind can process.

oh ok so they dont see the real figure they will be as an imagination of something. and the glamour you mean a rune of glamour? so if dont use this there normal showing like human? i got that right ?

Greenwood1 wrote: "oh ok so they dont see the real figure they will be as an imagination of something. and the glamour you mean a rune of glamour? so if dont use this there normal showing like human? i got that rig..."

No, they shouldn't see what it truly is because I think it is used to keep the mortal world separated from the shadowhunter world. Unless there's a human that has the Sight where they can see those types of things. I think it's a rune for glamour. If a mortal used runes on their bodies too many times they would be come like the Forsaken. It also kills downworlders.

ok thanks make sence now :D

They have the option of either glamouring themselves to be invisible or to change there appearance such as the warlock i think who worked at the hospital and i think she was green or something but to the ordinary person she herself looked normal.

Hannah wrote: "They have the option of either glamouring themselves to be invisible or to change there appearance such as the warlock i think who worked at the hospital and i think she was green or something but ..."

Yeah, she was green. Another had a skeletal hand.

Why are Warlocks better than Shadowhunters? Sorry if its a dumb Q I should know...

Also... If Jace and Clary aren't brother and sister why is everyone else playing in on the lie?

The main differences between Shadowhunters and Warlocks are that Warlocks are immortal and can do magic. Neither of which are true with Shadowhunters. I don't think one or the other are better just different.

They don't know it's a lie. Only the inquisitor figured it out on the boat in COA but she died before she could tell Jace the truth. The only lie appears in the movie not the books.

Valentine knows it a lie seeing as he made it up but no one else does

I've forgotten what happened at Renwick's? They keep referring to it as something momentous for Jace and Clary?

Hannah wrote: "Valentine knows it a lie seeing as he made it up but no one else does"

Yes Valentine knows.

Christie wrote: "I've forgotten what happened at Renwick's? They keep referring to it as something momentous for Jace and Clary?"

I believe that's where they got err.....busy:-)

Busy how? Which book? There has been a lot of make out sessions

There was no make out sesion in Renwick's, but it was a special moment though, because Valentine said that Clary loved Jace and he heard it. Also I belive Clary and Jace exchanged a very special hug :)

Thank you. That was the first book? At the end?

yes

wait, I'm pretty sure this is correct, but Forsaken are downworlders who have used too many runes right? And they become some kind of monstrosity thing? I'm a tad confused about them....

Renée wrote: "yes

wait, I'm pretty sure this is correct, but Forsaken are downworlders who have used too many runes right? And they become some kind of monstrosity thing? I'm a tad confused about them...."

Forsaken are humans been given runes who have no shadowhunter blood in them. They either die or turn forsaken

In these forums i learn how the real names of creatures in shadowhunters world are! I read the books in greek so i didn't know that a man who has runes without being a shadowhunter is a foresaken! I knew the greek word for it! :p

That to be honest is pretty cool :)

Yeah it's really cool! It was funny because when i watched the city of bones trailer for the first time i heard jace say to clary that she is not a mandane and i was like what is that?

Hannah wrote: "Renée wrote: "yes

wait, I'm pretty sure this is correct, but Forsaken are downworlders who have used too many runes right? And they become some kind of monstrosity thing? I'm a tad confused about ..."

Yes in the ID, the Lightwood Brothers are threatened with the removalof 'that which makes them Shadowhunters' which would make them Foresaken because they would still have runes. Or they could have their runes removed and become mundane.

Areti wrote: "In these forums i learn how the real names of creatures in shadowhunters world are! I read the books in greek so i didn't know that a man who has runes without being a shadowhunter is a foresaken! ..."

Didn't know it had been translated into Greek.

Areti wrote: "Yeah it's really cool! It was funny because when i watched the city of bones trailer for the first time i heard jace say to clary that she is not a mandane and i was like what is that?"

I actually thought he sounded pretty hot when he said that line:-)