Harry Potter discussion

I like New Line, just not Their Inkheart

REALLY? i heard inkheart was good.... well i havent seen it yet, if its that bad then i dont want to see it..

percy jackson is an amazing series!

new line will be cool with me cause they did LOTR (lol even if they stole money from the tolkien family) and i thought that one one of the best adaptations from a series that i have EVER seen!!

I'm trying to remember which movie i really like that was made by new line..... *sigh* i cant remember it.......

Girija :) wrote: "REALLY? i heard inkheart was good.... well i havent seen it yet, if its that bad then i dont want to see it..

percy jackson is an amazing series!"

AHHHHHHHHHHHH! OMG if you are planning on reading Inkheart, DONT WATCH IT! IT RUINS THE BOOK! THEY DID SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BAD ON IT! GET PPL WHO CAN ACT!

So is it just the acting that ruins Inkheart, or is it also the pacing, characterization, and additions to the story etc.? I very rarely watch movies, so I don't really have an opinion on New Line. The LotR films are certainly amazing, but The Golden Compass isn't the best (admittedly that film had a lot going against it).

The casting in Inkheart is actually pretty good. I'm not a fan of Brendan Fraser, but he does a pretty good job. What ruins it is the screen play.
SPOILER: The basis of the book is that some readers bring stories to live, literally pulling characters or things out. Every time something comes out, something goes in, so you have all these things in the wrong worlds trying to get home. The readers can't put them back because they didn't write the story; they are bound by the author's words. Even the author has to be careful how he words changes because it can have an adverse effect. At the end of the book, everyone is in the wrong world, but in the movie, the girl, who can read, scribbles out an ending to Inkheart, which isn't her book, on her arm and reads it, sending everything back where it belongs. It goes against the integrity of the novel because she's a reader, not a writer, and she can't meddle with someone else's story. The scene is set up similar to the book, with the author who wrote the words in the book, so they could have done it correctly, but they take out what makes up much of the conflict in the series.

The LOTR movies are amazing. I think it is the best book-to-movie adaption too. Yeah The Golden Compass wasn't the best. They lost a lot of the magic of the story focusing on the wrong story elements.

oh yeah new line did THE GOLDEN COMPASS too right? that's weird, i figured a production/distribution company who did such a good adaptation with LOTR would do another good adaptation with that book series. but they didnt. inconsistent!

Pandy wrote: "So is it just the acting that ruins Inkheart, or is it also the pacing, characterization, and additions to the story etc.? I very rarely watch movies, so I don't really have an opinion on New Line...."

1. I love Golden Compass ( none taken ) 2. Ink Inkheart they messed up the story and casting was wayyyyyy off.

You love the Golden Compass film? I love the book (and the two following books in the series), but I think the movie could have been better. Like Annalisa said, the correct parts of the story aren't emphasized. I do think it's hard for the film makers though, since they (sadly) can't put in some of what is in the book because of the controversy surrounding some of the religious material.

lol i personally cant stand the series, and if i ever met philip pullman, it would be all i could do to keep from roundhouse-kicking the tar out of him. that being said, i strongly think that movie adaptations need to stay as true to the original book as possible (because the book is what made it successful in the first place!!!) and i think THE GOLDEN COMPASS deserved to be made "the right way," which was the book's way. if they can screw up THE GOLDEN COMPASS, what's to keep them from screwing up, oh idk, say PERCY JACKSON?!?!?!

Pandy wrote: "You love the Golden Compass film? I love the book (and the two following books in the series), but I think the movie could have been better. Like Annalisa said, the correct parts of the story aren'..."

I know it's most likely messed up, but I don't know cuz I'm only on like page 31 or Golden Compass

This is why I am a little concerned about Hunger Games and how a production company is already planning on turning it into a movie as well. If they do, I hope they realize that what most people liked wasn't the violence but the survival and the romance. I don't want to see Hunger Games turned into a huge action-packed movie.

i need to read that! I have all of them

hey brenda (or whoever): my roommate keeps mentioning some "peeta" person--who's he?

Amelia,
The main character in Hunger Games is Katniss. She's a tough girl and her best friend is a guy named Gale. Peeta is the kind-hearted boy she knows. Love triangle. And all the young want her to be with Peeta because he's so nice and you can't be mean to Peeta, but she doesn't like him and the only reason she really even cares for him is out of guilt. She belongs with Gale. The series is very good, but be forewarned of a lot of violence. It may be disturbing, depending on how old you are. I wouldn't recommend it for middle-age students.
We are just finishing up Sea of Monsters and I keep thinking about you and your tag with your name. I haven't gotten to that part of the series (obviously) but I keep wondering when it will come.

;] i figured there was some love triangle. i just got the basic synopsis from wikipedia...but my roommate is completely obsessed with peeta and that other guy you mentioned? she like hates him. lol, ohhh blast those love triangles! teehee im 20 but thanks for the warning. im reading a series right now that was recommended to me by my 12-year-old cousin, and im like "omg you READ this stuff???? didnt it give you nightmares?!?!"

on PJ: ohh proceed to the next book, then the next, then the NEXT!! im glad you like my tag. the other day i was thinking about changing it, but i decided to keep it, cause percy and annabeth are just so darn cute!


btw: since this is the "What are you reading right now?" board, i gotta ask: has anyone heard of the FAERIE WARS series?? i don't think its gotten that much publicity in the states, but the books have received many awards and they're nytimes bestselling (which sometimes isnt much of a big deal) but they're extremely creative and geared towards potterites (like me!) so yeah you all should give it a try!! they're really good!

Amelia, your roommate hates Gale?! How is that possible? He is awesome! He and Peeta are both so amazing! It makes the whole love triangle thing really sad because they're both so lovable.

Brenda, I really hope that they focus more on the action and suspense, not the romance. You don't even know for sure that Peeta really does love her until over half-way through the book. This book is not just about romance.

Hunger Games is an action-packed book. It should be an action-packed movie. It shouldn't have only action, but it shouldn't have only romance. It should have a balance that stays true to the book, meaning that the balance should be leaning towards more violence. The romance comes in in the second book.

I don't want Hunger Games to become the next Twilight. I don't want to see teenaged girls with t-shirts saying "Team Peeta" or "Team Gale". I don't mind Twilight itself. I just don't want people to only think about them as romance books. They aren't. They have romance, but that is not the focus of Hunger Games.

I'll check out Faerie Wars! They sound interesting!

lol...well she's out of town for the weekend so i'll have to ask her when she gets back whats up with gale. but from what i can gather, it's another "Edward-Bella-Jacob/ Jace-Clary-Simon (MORTAL INSTRUMENTS, anyone?)" dynamic.

im not going to read the HUNGER GAMES series until closer to the release of the third book. this year, having to wait for THE LAST OLYMPIAN and now ARCHENEMY (but the wait is almost over!!!) has nearly killed me! i usually try to wait until a series is completed before i dive in... ;]

ohh rachel you should read FAERIE WARS! you all should! they are great for potter fans, but they're also just so different from anything else i've ever read! and i hope you like DOOMED QUEENS...that book actually helped me remember people for a history test!

Ok. I don't see how anyone can hate either of them? All love triangles are basically the same (one of the reasons why the romance should NOT be the focus of the movie), so they're similar in that way. But as far as love triangles go, they're pretty different. Katniss has a very different relationship with Gale and Peeta than Bella has with Edward and Jacob. It's also much less predictable about who she's going to end up with. Also, a lot of people think that it's entirely possible that she won't end up with anyone.

I haven't started City of Bones yet, so I don't know how it compares to that love triangle.

I can't wait to read those books! Doomed Queens sounds really interesting. I'd love to find new queens to obsess over, although Elisabeth-&-Family obssession is still going quite nicely. I just read a book on Mayerling from the perspective of Rudolf and Mary being killed (not by themselves). It was very interesting. I also saw the musical of it, which was annoyingly romanticized. (They were not in love! He asked Missy first! Mary was an air-headed flirt, and Rudolf was a depressed alcoholic/drug addict! They were NOT Romeo and Juliet in carnate!). On the plus side, I love the music and cast of it. I have a huge crush on one of the actors in it.

yeah rudolf was a sleaze. there's a pretty good size section of him in ROYAL BABYLON, which is an amazingly interesting book on royal historyRoyal Babylon The Alarming History of European Royalty this is the first booklink ive tried to use so hopefully it works. lol!

MORTAL INSTRUMENTS' triangle reminds me a little of TWILIGHT in that there's a definite "winner" boy and a "loser" boy and most people i've talked to have a definite preference. it's also heavily slanted, too, towards one choice. lindsey (roommate) told me that the HUNGER GAMES is more ambiguous and way less obvious about who the main character needs to be with...but she still hates gale. i asked her if she really hated gale or if she just liked the other guy and she was like "no i absolutely hate him. he's annoying and she needs to go away!" lol ditto thats exactly how i felt about jacob in ECLIPSE and BREAKING DAWN!

I don't think Rudolf was meant to be like that. He was an idealist, and his beliefs were being crushed every minute of his life. He turned to...distractions. It wasn't right, but it was human. He's a tragic character. I love how, in the musical of Elisabeth, he's portrayed as being manipulated by Death. This scene was the first scene of Elisabeth I ever saw, and it almost scared me away XD. He's portrayed pretty simpathetically (emphasis on pathetic...pathetic in a pitiful way, as in: Rudolf on his knees, begging his mother for help. "Mama, I need you." She turns him down, and then he commits suicide. Mary is left out/symbolized by Death.) so I think that probably biases me a little bit. Anyways, I always looked at it like: he basically predicted WWI, WWII, and the Holocaust, and he wasn't allowed to do anything to stop it. Any sane person would become depressed, and he turned to classic vices that people used to deal with depression before the age of therapy.

And no one saw Rudolf and Mary kill themselves, right? Then, why is the official story that Rudolf shot Mary and then himself? What makes everyone think that she didn't shoot herself?

Your link worked! I'll check that out too, when I get a chance. :)

In Hunger Games, they're both awesome. There's no clear winner or loser yet. And about "who the main character needs to be with"...she doesn't need to be with anyone. She might not end up with either of them. Why does she think Gale is annoying? He's less overly protective of Katniss, which I really like, and he's sweet, but he's not as sweet as Peeta.

I've only read the first Twilight book, and, based on his 3 pages, I honestly liked Jacob better than Edward. Then again, I would prefer a rock to Edward.

Hmmm difference in opinion. From what I've read on rudolf, he was a total sleaze... I feel sorry for his wife (Stephanie, I think? Maybe not) I just really didn't like him

I haven't read Faeries War, but I have heard of it. I'll have to add it to the to-read list. Has anyone read the Abhorsen Trilogy? It's about magicians, as far as I understand, and my friend has been raving about it.

Ohh faerie wars is soooo good! I'm almost done with the series and I'm feeling kind of sad cause I'll miss it when I finish! Do you do that? I always get bummed when I finish a series-- not so much regular books cause they're not like the same characters and continuing story... Lol I don't know how to say it and I'm having a hard time cause I'm textng this on my phone and I'm very bad at texting!

I liked Faerie Wars for the most part. I think books one and three were the best. Two was a bit slow, and four just felt sort of disconnected from the rest to me.

The Abhorsen trilogy is really good, and one of my faves. It's not magicians like Harry Potter, though. There are necromancers, who raise the dead, and there's the Abhorsen, who puts the dead back to sleep, and there is Charter magic, but it's more of a spiritual/religious sort of thing. It's a really good trilogy, though, and I've read that Nix has more in the works.

I understand what you mean about finishing series, Amelia. With me it could be a series or a book, depending on how much I liked the characters and the world of the story, but, with series, you get drawn deeper and deeper into the world so it's that much harder to let go, if you're really enjoying it.

Ohh Garth nix! I know who that is! He did the "keys to the kingdom" series (but they're not finished yet) I love that guy! Go Aussie writers!!!
Hmm on FW I liked all of them --about to start the 4th one--and with the exception of some small criticisms I think they're pretty brilliant!

I enjoy the Keys to the Kingdom series, as well, though I never got into his Seventh Tower series. The Abhorsen trilogy is still YA, but with a bit of an older tone to it.

Im reading Inkheart. I want to read the whole series by the end of October probably sooner.

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im re-reading THE LOOKING GLASS WARS series by frank beddor, because the final book comes out next week! anyone heard of them?

Amelia, I've read them. They were a little sci fi for my taste (the second one), but I thought it was interesting. I was not aware that it was coming out next week. Cool.
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Lindsay, you may want to put your comments on a thread under non-related.

I've heard of The Looking Glass Wars, but haven't gotten around to reading them. Couldn't decide on whether I'd like them or not. Are they good?

@Annie: I hope you like Inkheart. I found the first one ok, but not great, but I thought the second dragged horribly. I haven't been able to bring myself to read the last one, yet.

I'm reading tuck everlasting.

I didn't know that the final book in the The Looking Glass Wars was being released next week, either. I've read the first two books. I really enjoyed the first one, but the second one bored me a little and I didn't care for any of the characters.

Can you give me the link for the L0oking Glass Wars.

I've read the book and loved it, I want to read Eldest, but I've never seen the movie, but a bunch of people said it was terrible.
XD

Blackrose posted the link to The Looking Glass Wars above.

yay exciting, everyones talking about the LOOKING GLASS WARS! i'm rereading them now (cause ive nearly forgotten everything since last year)...
- there were times in Seeing Redd (Book 2) that i thought got a bit off-pace, but that's probably just a me-thing. my brother is a 17year old jock and he *loves* this series :P! yess Archenemy comes out Thursday!!! WOOOTT!

...I saw the trailer for Percy Jackson and the Olympians The Lightning Thief, and it looks a lot better than I thought, and now I can't wait!!!

I am now reading The House With A Clock In Its Walls series, by John Bellairs and Alkatraz and the Evil Librarians, I forgot who wrote the Alkatraz book. (I think it is so awesome, he named the main character a prison name, Alkatraz! I didn't even know it was a prison until I started reading it.)

I can't wait for Percy Jackson! Have you seen the new International trailers? It looks pretty good!

I am reading the Obernewtyn Chronicles by Isobelle Carmody. I'm not very far into it because I just started it about two days ago and there are eight books. Two of them aren't out yet, but they are both coming out in 2010. So far it's pretty good though. It's a sort of sci-fi and fantasy story.

I just started reading Percy Jackson, which my teacher recommended to me. So far it's pretty good, although I have to set it down every once and a while because I have to read books for a book club. I am on pg. 140 or so, and I love it! I can't wait to see how the movie is in February!

Is it related to Harry Potter at all?

Nope.

Okay. I will see if the library at school has it.....

Yeah, it's really good!!

*Ron Weasley Fan* Shae wrote: "Is it related to Harry Potter at all?"

No, but it's SORTA like it you could say... It's about greek gods who have children that have magical powers... Just search here for Percy Jackson!

yay people are talking about PERCY JACKSON!! ohh that makes my heart singgggggg! keep reading percy jackson, guys and girls!