Mortal Instruments & Infernal Devices Lovers! discussion

Hey guys im new to this so take it easy on me (: anyways, I've been wondering, and its driving me crazy not knowing, why luke was part of the circle. i mean isn't he a downworlder? Wouldnt he realise that theyd have to eventually kill him too because he's a downworlder?

Luke was born a shadowhunter and he was valentine's parabatai and after he became a werewolf!

I take it you watched the movie and didn't read the book? It's explained a bit better in book form.

Razeal said the he and Simon were related. what do you think that means?

I'm hoping Simon is like some kind of angel in the end and saves everyone ;-)

so do I.

who do you think will kill Sebastian/Jonathan?

I'm not sure. I think it's either going to be Jace and his heavenly fire, or Simon and his heritage comes through to save them. But I'm hoping no one dies even though I know Cassie will kill some major character. She always does.

she does :(

dont you think maia and Kyle went a little too fast on the relationship?

Yep. It was like zero to sixty in two seconds. But they do have a history so it wasn't that shocking for me.

what do you think of Jocelyn?

I have no clue. I think the more we come up with scenarios for what's going to happen, the more the actual book is going to shock us. Nothing we predict is probably going to happen lol.

LOL

why would the fae side with Sebastian?

Because the seelie queen sides with whoever has power. And Sebastien definitely has power.

witch should have known better than to go up against Clary . I bet Clary kills her

who do you think is Magnus' father?

OMG it's probably Satan himself lol. I don't know. But he definitely does. I don't think the queen is going to die though. I think she'll make an appearance in the next shadowhunter series.

I agree. she probably playing both sides

do you think Clary can see the future?

No I don't think so. But she might have a bit of prophet in her haha.

LOL

did you think it was annoying that Clary finally knew how to fight after five books?

No. You couldn't expect her to be able to fight after COB could you? I think it was good progression of her fighting skills.

true but still. she just started her training and she already could kick ass

I think that bit of angel blood helped ;)

yeah maybe it dead :)

Simon really needs to accept his vampire self. he shouldn't be all moody about. I was proud that he stood against Simon on COG

yeah maybe it dead :)

Simon really needs to accept his vampire self. he shouldn't be all moody about. I was proud that he stood against Sebastian on COG

yeah maybe it dead :)

Simon really needs to accept his vampire self. he shouldn't be all moody about. I was proud that he stood against Sebastian on COG

whoops stupid auto correct

yeah maybe it dead :)

Simon really needs to accept his vampire self. he shouldn't be all moody about. I was proud that he stood against Sebastian on COG

I think he kind of has. He just can't accept that he'll still be around when his friends and family die in the next fifty years.

yeah...

maybe he will meet Tessa and be friends with her :)

yeah...

maybe he will meet Tessa and be friends with her :)

I hope that Tessa will somehow help in COHF. Magnus had mentioned her help before.

Yeah, I hope Tessa and Jem are somehow incorporated into COHF. That would be awesome!

which three characters do you hate in the series?

In TMI or TID?

Mr. Lightwood, Sebastien, and the Seelie Queen.

@julia both

I hate Valentine, Sebastian, and Lady Lilith. I'm not a fan of Mr. Robert Lightwood or the Seelie Queen either.

In TID, I hate Axel Mortmain, Consul Wayland, and Nathaniel Gray.

in tmi I hate Sebastian,

in tmi I hate Sebastian, the seelie queen, and Sebastian

in TID I hate Mrs. black, mortmain, and D'Quincy

All of those characters are easy to hate. Ms. Clare sure knows how to write a villain lol.

I am,not a fan of Jocelyn

Yeah, me neither.

I hated her for taking away Clary's memory

I hated when did not train Clary.

I rooted for Isabelle when pointed out Jocelyn's mistakes in COLS

what do you think were Valentine's last thoughts?

Ray (warrior of randomness) XP wrote: "what do you think were Valentine's last thoughts?"

He probably quoted The Terminator. "I'll be back".

Stephen wasn't his parabatai. He was just his second in command of the circle.

you can only have one parabatai. if he or she dies then that's it. you can't have another one

I've been reading TMI series and now I'm up to city of lost souls. And I feel like giving up...

- Is anyone sick of Clary and Jace not being together?

I feel like the first 3 books were amazing. But after that I just got annoyed that the author created another reason to keep Jace and Clary apart. Plus the storyline isn't as interesting as the first 3 books I didn't think.

Plus I feel like Clary keeps chasing Jace. She brought him back to life and she keeps checking he is okay. He has dreams and pulls away from her. Now he has disappeared with Sebastian (Jonathan). I just feel like giving up reading the last book. I am starting to see Clary in a bit of a "door mat" sense. I know she loves him but after all her trying I'd start giving up a bit. When is it her turn for Jace to want her? When he got his life back he seemed to change. He seems to not want her as much anymore, despite him "saying" how much he wants her, his actions say differently.

- Am I the only one who feels this way?

I can see where you feel that way. All I can say is book 5 was one of the toughest for me because I had read the previous 4 in 3 weeks. So I was slowing down a bit. The book is worth plowing through and keep in mind COHF is the last of the TMI series so I would imagine that Cassie will not go through 6 books just to not have them get together in the end. JMO. I personally find it great that it's Clary having to protect Jace. She is NOT a damsel in distress. I don't see her as a doormat because IMO if Clary wanted to dump his a$$ she would. She has never backed down from a challenge and is not afraid to do what she wants to do. I find her loyal and that is not to be confused with a pushover. Which is basically what a doormat is. Plus in this book it's not exactly like Jace is truly capable of free will.