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This topic is open for discussion of Neverwhere by Neil Gaiman

BE PREPARED FOR SPOILERS

What is a buddy read?


About this Buddy Read
A “Relaxed Buddy Read” is similar to our usual “buddy reads” except there are less questions and break points. For example, a book may be split into three sections and those reading the book should pause at the end of the section to answer some discussion questions, make comments, or ask their own questions to other readers

Synopsis
Under the streets of London there's a place most people could never even dream of. A city of monsters and saints, murderers and angels, knights in armour and pale girls in black velvet. This is the city of the people who have fallen between the cracks.

Richard Mayhew, a young businessman, is going to find out more than enough about this other London. A single act of kindness catapults him out of his workday existence and into a world that is at once eerily familiar and utterly bizarre. And a strange destiny awaits him down here, beneath his native city: Neverwhere

Neil Gaiman Seasonal Challenge
This is our December 2013 choice. If you want to join us for a Neil Gaiman BR a month, you can sign up here

You do not need to be part of the challenge to join this buddy read. Everyone is welcome!

Note: This book was previously discussed as a BOM in August 2012. That thread is here. There are spoilers!

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As this book was previously discussed as a BOM with discussion questions, I have copied the reading schedule below and will copy and paste the DQs as we go

Date Chapters Pages


Dec 20 Prologue - 3 1 - 61
Dec 21 4 - 5 62 - 119
Dec 22 6 - 9 120 - 177
Dec 23 10 - 12 178 - 227
Dec 24 13 - 16 228 - 287
**Break for Christmas Day**
Dec 26 17 - 20 288 - 336



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:)


Kristie | 3595 comments I'm looking forward to this one!


Anima Miejska | 757 comments This is my all-time favourite book, I'm waiting to discuss it with others!! :)


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Wow. I didn't know that Anima! and I was already *really* looking forward to this one ;)


Nicole Field (nicolefield) | 1778 comments Oh ha, there's already a discussion thread for this one. I'm in!


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Lol!


Jess (jmor) I've been meaning to read Neverwhere for a long time. I'm in!


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Great :)


Nicole Field (nicolefield) | 1778 comments Did anyone else hear the radioplay of Benedict Cummerbatch and others reading this book?


Kayla (kaylasreadingroom) | 48 comments Nicole wrote: "Did anyone else hear the radioplay of Benedict Cummerbatch and others reading this book?"
WHAT. WHERE. WHEN.
O.O


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No! Tell us more Nicole ;)


Nicole Field (nicolefield) | 1778 comments I'll do better than that! Here be a link! http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01r522y


Anima Miejska | 757 comments It is awesome, Nicole, I'm only confussed, because there are episodes from 1 to 6 only and they aren't available now. I wonder how to get to them :), it would be great to listen to this book read by such a wonderful cast.

And generally the whole idea of this radio station is awesome!!! Nicole, thanks for the link!


Ashley Marie (darlingdoor) | 1733 comments Nicole wrote: "I'll do better than that! Here be a link! http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01r522y"

I DIED when this happened. I'm almost as obsessed with everything Bennie does as I am Neil's stuff. Best day ever.


Nicole Field (nicolefield) | 1778 comments It totally was! That was when my idea that I might finally get around to some of Neil's works got into my head.

And then there was this thread. Coincidence? ;)


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For all the Benedict Cumberbatch fans and anyone else interested here is a link of him singing as The Angel Islington:

http://io9.com/listen-to-benedict-cum...

It's addictive.


Ashley Marie (darlingdoor) | 1733 comments Pigletto wrote: "For all the Benedict Cumberbatch fans and anyone else interested here is a link of him singing as The Angel Islington:

http://io9.com/listen-to-benedict-cum......"


I'm pretty sure I've listened to this at least 30957230975 times since you posted it, Pigletto.


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments **giggles**


Ashley Marie (darlingdoor) | 1733 comments This has nothing to do with Neil Gaiman, but it's still awesome if you're a Cumberbatch fan: http://ntlive.nationaltheatre.org.uk/...

If it's showing in a theater near you, it's well worth your time. Mind-blowingly good.


Nicole Field (nicolefield) | 1778 comments Yes! I've been trying to organise a bunch of friends to go see this with me already too!


Ashley Marie (darlingdoor) | 1733 comments Nicole wrote: "Yes! I've been trying to organise a bunch of friends to go see this with me already too!"

Please tell them your internet friend Ashley told them they have to. They'll regret it if they don't, seriously. Go by yourself if you have to, Nicole!


Nicole Field (nicolefield) | 1778 comments Hehe, I'll see if I can at least get one friend to come with me ;)


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Justin (rockstarintraining) I'm in! When are we starting?


Ashley Marie (darlingdoor) | 1733 comments This one starts on the 20th, justin! I'm super excited!


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Justin (rockstarintraining) Fantastic! That gives me time to finish up what I'm reading now. Thanks!


Teresa Young | 113 comments I just texted myself a list of our libraries that have copies available right now.


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Sarayu | 2 comments I'm in!


Adriane | 24 comments I think i'll just start reading it now, so I actually manage to get it read this month! :)


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Lol sometimes that is the best way


Nicole Field (nicolefield) | 1778 comments Oh, well, if you're starting it now, Adriane... I wouldn't want you to be alone ;)


Kristie | 3595 comments I'm reading it now too. :)


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Justin (rockstarintraining) Overachievers!


Kristie | 3595 comments lol! No.... I just know that I won't finish in December if I start later. :) More of a cheater really. ;)


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lol Justin!!


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Justin (rockstarintraining) OK fine... Cheaters!


Kristie | 3595 comments lol!


Adriane | 24 comments lol! This cheater has already fallen behind, how dare Christmas keep getting in my way!


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Teehee


Nicole Field (nicolefield) | 1778 comments Oh yeah, I said I would start,then I got side lined. That's ok, there's still several days till it really starts ;)


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Schedule posted into message 2 for those who would like to read and/or answer discussion questions


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December 20

Questions and Comments for Prologue - Chapter 3

1) As Lucy mentioned, what a fun a different name for a character--Door. She says it's not short for anything it's just her name. From what we've seen does anyone else think there is some significance to this name? The first chapter talked of her trying to open up doors to escape the two men, if we can call them that, that were in pursuit of her.

2) The old woman in the prologue warned Richard to avoid doors. Who knew it would be three years later that her prediction would come true? What do you make of Door and her world? Did anyone have a clue the old woman was talking about a person?

3) First impression of Richard Mayhew? I think he seems a little too easy going, but a nice guy. I liked how he didn't just leave door on the pavement.

4) What the heck is going on with Richard? Why doesn't anyone know him? It's like he's been erased or at least the last few years of his life have been.

5) Do you think Door apologized because she knew what was about to happen to Richard? Do you think she knew his world would be turned upside down?

6) Have you read any of Neil Gaiman's other stories? If so which are your favorites? How does the beginning of this one compare to the ones you've read?



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Questions and Comments for Prologue - Chapter 3

1. It is very strange. I guess she has some special ability regarding opening 'magical' doors

2. No - and I think I need to go back and reread the prologue as I'd already forgotten that!

3. Lovely guy - affable kind of fellow. I'm glad he ignored his gf and helped Door. I love quote:

"Richard had noticed that events were cowards; they didn't occur singly, but instead they would run in packs and leap out at him all at once"

4. Kind of erased, as if he yells loud enough people do see him. I'm keen to find out!

5. Yes and that is pretty mean if that is the case as she should've exlained things to him or helped in some way

6. This is now my 4th for this challenge and it is quite different to the others. I do really like it so far - it has dragged me in quickly like The Ocean at the End of the Lane did


Nicole Field (nicolefield) | 1778 comments Argh were meant to have started this already!! I completely lost track of the date!


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Kim Boone (kimberlyboone) | 3 comments Started it on the bus this morning! This will be my 3rd Gaiman book of the year. Looking forward to reading this together.


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Jess (jmor) 1) It seems like Door has the ability to open up locked doors, or make doors where they weren't before. I mean she did open Richards locked door when she was brought to his apartment, and she opened a door into the alley Richard found her in that I don't think should have been there. I noticed a few references to doors before she was introduced, so I'm interested to see how significant her name becomes as the story goes on.

2) I didn't even remember that the old woman warned Richard about avoiding doors, and that it could be applied to Door the person. How clever!

3) I really like Richard. I like that he's easy going and a nice guy. I like that Richard is a hero, and he takes action when he saves door, but he's not the typical high strung, action oriented hero that I tend to see a lot of in stories.

4) I don't know what's going on with Richard. I'm definitely interested to find out whether his non-existence is due to a spell, or aftereffects of contact with Door, or something else.

5) I assumed Door apologized because she had caused a lot of weirdness for Richard. I'm hoping that she didn't realize what would happen to Richard after she left, and if she did she would have helped him.

6) I have read Gaiman's Sandman comics, American Gods, The Graveyard Book, and some of his short stories. I really like his early work from the 90's, like his Sandman comics and American Gods. So I'm enjoying this story a lot, because it's some of his early stuff I haven't read yet. I'm excited to read more.


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@Nicole - I'm one of the "cheaters" that started early! haha

@Jessica
2. I'm glad I wasn't the only one to forget this. I went back and re-read it and there is a lot of forshadowing in that prologue

3. good point!


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Characters:
Door
Richard Mayhew (aka Dick)
Jessica - Richard's fiance
Gary - Richard's friend
Mr. Croup
Mr. Vandemer
Master Longtail of clan Gray
Marquis De Carabas
Lord Rat Speaker
Hunter
Anaesthesia
Varney


Dec 21
Questions for Chapters 4 - 5

7) Well we now know what is going on... "Young man," he said, "understand this: there are two Londons. There's London Above--that's where you lived--and then there's London Below--the Underside--inhabited by the people who fell through the cracks of the world. Now you're one of them." Yikes! But so cool. I love it. What is your reaction?

8) What are Mr. Croup and Mr. Vandemar? Some things remind me of cats and others of vampires or boogey men. What do you think?

9) Did you notice Doors family's names??? Arch, Portico, Portia... Portia doesn't seem to fit the others.

10) What did you think of the 'House without Doors'? How did someone get in? Was it someone they knew?

11) I kind of giggled when Hunter revealed what her true profession was. I have to admit I wondered. What do you think of her? I'm glad she knocked Varney out of the running.

12) Anyone else think the marquis is up to no good?

13) What did you think of Anaesthesia being taken as a toll on the bridge? What did you make of Hunter revealing she'd saved Richard three times on that bridge? Anyone else wondering if Richard's dream from before wasn't one?

14) What did you think of the floating market?

15) So if rats are important, are pigeons too? What do you make of the importance of rats?

16) So now they're on a quest to find an angel named Islington. Should prove interesting.



Nicole Field (nicolefield) | 1778 comments Wow, I am so glad that it is easier to get into than the old bbc mini series! I'm loving this so far. Lady Door is my favourite.


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