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message 1: by Ruth (new)

Ruth | 16546 comments Mod
NYT apparently tracks words that online readers have to look up. How many do you know? I plead guilty to not knowing parlous, but I'm amazed that people never seem to have heard of The Three Little Swine.

http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/06/ny-t...


message 2: by Ken, Moderator (last edited Jun 18, 2009 06:09PM) (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
Wow. A treasure trove of "Words of the Day" there! Sui generis, indeed!


message 3: by Jonathan (new)

Jonathan Lopez | 530 comments How do they know who is looking up what?


message 4: by Debbie, sardonic princess of cheerfulness (new)

Debbie (sardonicprincessofcheerfulness) | 6389 comments Mod
Interesting that feckless and fecklessness are both there! I knew parlous, but there were others that were new to me......and interesting too that both swine and pandemic were there.


message 5: by Ruth (new)

Ruth | 16546 comments Mod
They've got links to the words and can track when people click for definitions. But damned if I know how they know who.


message 6: by Ken, Moderator (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
Same way Big Brother Google knows. ISPs, etc. Except Google stores your searches forever, ready to share with the Feds (or others) if necessary. Not sure about the NYT.


message 7: by Jonathan (new)

Jonathan Lopez | 530 comments Newengland wrote: "Same way Big Brother Google knows. ISPs, etc. Except Google stores your searches forever, ready to share with the Feds (or others) if necessary. Not sure about the NYT."

A cautionary tale...




message 8: by Summer (new)

Summer | 87 comments Ruth wrote: "...I'm amazed that people never seem to have heard of The Three Little Swine."

That is perplexing. I wonder if that has to do with context. Maybe it was used in a sentence that seemed to infer an alternate meaning.


message 9: by Tyler (new)

Tyler  (tyler-d) | 268 comments I missed 7 out of 50. It helps me that I know a little philosophy. On the other hand, many of the rest I've only learned in the last five or six years. "Apotheosis" is the last word I figured out.

"Ersatz" is a word I've never had trouble with, but I've heard many people friends get confused over it. Besides swine, I can't believe so many people don't know "glut" or "antebellum"; I think the reason "pandemic" is on the list is that the mass media abuses the word to sensationalize every illness, so people are trying to figure out the difference between it and "epidemic."



message 10: by David (new)

David | 4568 comments If you like "pandemic" you'll love "epizootic," a disease that is widespread in a non-human animal population.


message 11: by Ken, Moderator (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
How exzootic.


message 12: by Tyler (new)

Tyler  (tyler-d) | 268 comments That's a good one.


message 13: by Carol (new)

Carol | 10410 comments Solipsistic was a new one for me,
almost on the verge of megalomania.


message 14: by Ken, Moderator (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
I learned solipsistic from that classic solipsist himself, Leo Tolstoy. Come to think of it, MOST writers would come under the dogegory of "solipsist," no?


message 15: by David (new)

David | 4568 comments Isn't that Congresscritters?


message 16: by Carol (new)

Carol | 10410 comments I think it is a genus called politianocology.


message 17: by Carol (new)

Carol | 10410 comments Ask and you shall receive.


message 18: by grebrim (last edited Feb 08, 2010 06:28AM) (new)

grebrim | 155 comments 25, I'd really feel fecklees now if I were a native speaker.



message 19: by grebrim (last edited Feb 08, 2010 06:30AM) (new)

grebrim | 155 comments Btw, English is by far the wordiest language I know. I've read once that the biggest English dictionary had three times the number of words the biggest French one has. On the other hand, English grammar isn't very complicated, which makes it easy for a foreigner to learn basic English, but nearly impossible to attain the level of eloquence you can achieve in French, for instance.



message 20: by Ruth (new)

Ruth | 16546 comments Mod
grebrim wrote: "Btw, English is by far the wordiest language I know. I've read once that the biggest English dictionary had three times the number of words the biggest French one has. On the other hand, English gr..."

My husband, who grew up in Norway, is always remarking at the size of an American dictionary compared to a Norewegian one.


message 21: by Marian (new)

Marian (gramma) | 39 comments In English we usually have 3 or 4 word that mean the same thing (clothes, garments apparel)
Before the Norman invasion of 1066, English was based on Anglo-Saxon words, a Germantic language. Then the Normans brought their Norman-French, another hybrid of Latin (French) and Norse. Instead of one language taking over, all the language were used, with the latin-rooted word being the language of the aristocracy & all the wanna-be aristocrats. The anglo Saxon was preferred by those who resented the invaders & used an "English for the English" vocabulary. In time one large, clumsy but interesting language emerged. Add all the "Americanisms" picked up from various ethnic groups & the language grows even richer.


message 22: by Ken, Moderator (last edited Feb 10, 2010 09:04AM) (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
Yes, old William (such an English name for a French invader) really threw our language for a loop.

And I see echoes between the Americans and the Anglo-Saxons. We do it our way.


message 23: by grebrim (last edited Feb 10, 2010 03:24AM) (new)

grebrim | 155 comments Marian: In my opinion, the biggest problem you face as a learner is not the several words for the same meaning, but the several meanings fo one word, which sometimes makes English sentences hard to understand.


message 24: by Ken, Moderator (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
Through? Through? What could you possibly mean, Gabi? Look again. I think you're seeing things.


message 25: by Ken, Moderator (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
;-)

The edit button is a marvelous thing.


message 26: by Debbie, sardonic princess of cheerfulness (new)

Debbie (sardonicprincessofcheerfulness) | 6389 comments Mod
Ummmm....that would be marvellous NE!!


message 27: by Ken, Moderator (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
You can carry the extra letters. We're nothing if not efficient here in the Colonies.


message 28: by Ken, Moderator (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
Oh yeah. The Penal Colony. Whoops. You can trade sob stories with Georgia over a beer.


message 29: by Debbie, sardonic princess of cheerfulness (new)

Debbie (sardonicprincessofcheerfulness) | 6389 comments Mod
You gave up your right to the term 'colony' when you rebelled back in the 1770's!


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