Rothfussians discussion

Names are obviously a huge part of this world. So I think it goes without saying that the way you pronounce certain things would help make sense to parts of the story.

Personally I pronounce Imre and Amyr very similarly. Add in the fact that Old Cob (right?) said something about Imre being Amery (because he couldn't say it right, or remember properly). Which makes me think that the Amyr and Imre are related.

The Lackless/Lockless/Loechles name has also a lot of similarity, but it's the family name throughout the years. But take Chronicler's really name with it, Devan (sp) Lochees. Seems pretty similar to me. Maybe he has a connection to the family in some way. Maybe not.

Also, depending on you pronounce Cthaeh you can see how the Sithe would protect it. I pronounce it See-hard th-aye. Sithe, Cthaeh, sounds similar.

Which makes me think that, with Kvothe's innate powers, that Auri may indeed be Princess Ariel as stated in his "I can tell you the truth about Princess Ariel".

There are just so many similarities in the way he (PR) names things. They must be connected.

Also, I may have pulled Old Cob out of any number of books.. but someone pronounced it close to Amery.

Imre:
im-ray (like him-gay)

Amyr:
a-mere (like gay-beer)

Cob:
am-ar-ray (like ham-far-gay)

Cthaeh:
cuh-thay (like huh-gay)

I saw someone comment elsewhere that "Edema Ruh" and "Ademre" are suspiciously similar, as well.

the audiobook pronounces cthaeh like Ka-thay.

I read that Pat and Nik pat down and discussed the proper pronunciations of the words, so I'm inclined to pronounce everything the way Nik says it

Yeah try the audiobook, great voice actor.

It is confirmed the voice actor pronounces the names, as well as the accents, correctly.
Pat worked this out with him. So, definitely agree, listen to the Audio version.

(it's pretty much amazing anyway, so no hassle really, great for car rides)

@Sophie - that has come up a few times, their is actually a theory that the Edema Ruh and Adem are the descendants of the Ruach that were left over after the end of the creation war....personally haven't put a lot of thought into it, but it's out their if you're interested in researching something like that.

I've been going through this old thread and looking at all the theories about the Adem song about the Chandrian, thinking about name meanings, and I thought this thread would be a more appropriate place to put my thoughts.

Cyphus bears the blue flame.
Stercus is in thrall of iron.
Ferule chill and dark of eye.
Usnea lives in nothing but decay.
Grey Dalcenti never speaks.
Pale Alenta brings the blight.
Last there is the lord of the seven:
Hated. Hopeless. Sleepless. Sane.
Alaxel bears the shadow's hame.

I apologize if someone has already done this, but I started looking up all of the Adem-given names of the Chandrian on Google, and trying to figure out what they mean.

- "Cyphus" seems at first glance to bear some relation to "cypher," but a cyphus is also a kind of beetle. I also found this.
- "Stercus" means "dung or excrement," which would make more sense for the Chandrian who "lives in nothing but decay," but whatever.
- A "ferule" is a stick or ruler used for punishing children—ack! "Ferula" is a plant, and both come from a Latin word meaning "rod."
- Usnea is a kind of lichen that grows on trees—interesting. Apparently also known as "old man's beard" because of the grayish appearance of the lichen.
- "Dalcenti" only brings up KKC pages. Someone has connected it to "docenti," meaning "teacher."
- "Alenta" brings up the Finnish word "alinta" which means "to caress or fondle" or "to pamper or coddle." Or the Portuguese "alentar" which means "to encourage, animate, or inspirit." The same person linked above says it's a woman's name, a variation of Iolanthe*, which is a kind of purple flower.
- "Alaxel" mostly brings up KKC pages.

*On Iolanthe: The comic opera Iolanthe, also known as The Peer and the Peri or sometimes Perola, debuted at the Savoy Theatre in London in 1882. It’s all about a fairy named – what else? – Iolanthe. Years ago, she was booted from Fairy Land for marrying a mortal. Now there’s a movement afoot to welcome her back, along with her half-mortal son. Much merriment, confusion and singing ensues. (Source)

Kicked out of fae for marrying a mortal, eh? Half-mortal son, eh? Eeeenteresting.

Just reading through more theories and I thought of another one for names.

It's a bit farfetched, maybe, but one I want to share.

Bast's name is a very prominent, strong name. What are the chances it's also a bit telling? Bast...ard? As in possibly Kvothe's bastard son? Maybe, again farfetched, through Felurian. I'm pretty sure he puts his age above 100, but if you assume Kvothe was 16/17 when he met Felurian, and months passed in 3 days time, we can assume Kvothe is 25+, so 8-9 years would add up to a great lot of time in the Fae.

Bast is short for Bastas, though. And he's the "son of Remmen."

Personally his name always makes me think of Bastet the Egyptian cat goddess. Bast is more goatlike than catlike though, with the cloven hooves and all.

Damn me and my poor oversight! Thank you, Sophie!

Hey everyone I have enjoyed reading this thread so I might as well join it right? First time posting and I wasn't quite sure where to post this under so here goes nothing. The passage that brought up my question was this,

"Skarpi seemed to address the air in front of him. 'you should run, Kvothe. There's nothing to be gained by meddling with these sort of men. Head to the rooftops. Stay where they won't see you for a while. I have friends in the church who can help me, but there's nothing you can do here. Go.'"

My question is A) how did Skarpi know Kvothe's name, B) how did he know kvothe lived on the rooftops, and C) how does a storyteller at a tavern have friends in the church strong enough to help him from a Justice's arrest?

Here is what i gather in my short research I have made so far, assuming(I know that is a no-no in this group of fans) Skarpi tells the two stories (one and a half) are true then how does he know these stories if they are too old for history books to even regard them as rumors. But the actual text I found just a few pages before the passage up above is this,

"'Sometimes the story is growing in squalid backstreet bars, Dockside in Tarbean.' His bright eyes look deep into me, as if I were a book that he could read."

That is the passage on why this is posted in names, so is Skarpi someone MUCH greater than just a story teller and rumormonger?

*First quote Ch.28
*second quote Ch. 26

I wondered the same thing, but never put it together before! Nice catch.

Who is Skarpi really? I would be willing to bet that he is one of the Armyr.