Catching up on Classics (and lots more!) discussion

Kathy wrote: "Yes this group is based on Classic Fiction, rather than history."

true!

Some of those really old histories, are fictionalized tho :D


(aren't they????? God, I hope so! heh )

MK wrote: "omg ... he has children with his twin sister, he killed his cousin to escape his cage and he threw Bran out of a cave in a cliff! He's awful! :p"

But he does have some redeeming qualities. He saved all those people and respects Brienne, and truely loves his sister, he doesn't even cheat her. :D

It's been a while since i've read HF. I wouldnt know which novel to re-start with..

Tytti wrote: "But he does have some redeeming qualities. He saved all those people and respects Brienne, and truely loves his sister, he doesn't even cheat her. :D "


The bolded is not one of the redeeming qualities ;-). But .... okay, maybe on the first and second. And the fourth is just funny! :D

LunaBelle wrote: "It's been a while since i've read HF. I wouldnt know which novel to re-start with.."


Another mysterious sentence! ;-) I don't know what the bolded means :D.

Hi and welcome, LunaBelle!

Sorry? Is there a mistake there?
English is not my native language, I guess I will be makig a lot of mistake. Bear with me ;)

And thanks.

LunaBelle wrote: "Sorry? Is there a mistake there?
English is not my native language, I guess I will be makig a lot of mistake. Bear with me ;)

And thanks."


ahhh, I apologize, Luna. I was being silly, b/c Tytti (who's first language is Finnish) just tripped me up with English slang that I did not know ;-). I was teasing myself, mostly.

Make as many mistakes as you like! You should SEE some of the typos (mistakes on keyboard strokes, mostly because of autocorrections) I send forth into the universe ;-).


What I didn't know was, what does HF refer to? :)

MK wrote: "What I didn't know was, what does HF refer to? :) "

Historical Fiction.

Oh, and I have the same problem, LunaBelle. Though most of my books are HF or Classics.

Oh I meant historical fiction :D

I should introduce myself, but honestly i'm bad at that lol i never know what to say. If you have any question, let me know!

Tytti wrote: "MK wrote: "What I didn't know was, what does HF refer to? :) "

Historical Fiction"


haha, Tytti, you know English better than I do! ty :)

LunaBelle wrote: "Oh I meant historical fiction :D

I should introduce myself, but honestly i'm bad at that lol i never know what to say. If you have any question, let me know!"

Ahh, historical fiction! You and Tytti answered at the same time :). No worries, you can say as little or as much as you'd like.

Hmmm, questions? I guess, what is your first language, and how many languages do you speak? Tytti speaks about twenty-five languages, I'm pretty sure ;-). (that was a joke, not that many)

Tytti, it i frustrating, isnt it? I usually end up reading an unexpected book (lik the novel i'm reading atm)

MK my first language is Arabic. I also speak/read French.

MK wrote: "The bolded is not one of the redeeming qualities ;-).D "

Well... maybe not the way he expresses it but as he says: "We don't get to choose who we love." It's sort of sweet, in a twisted way. :-P

LunaBelle wrote: "...MK my first language is Arabic. I also speak/read French."

Three languages! So cool :)

Tytti wrote: "Well... maybe not the way he expresses it but as he says: "We don't get to choose who we love." It's sort of sweet, in a twisted..."

NO! It's NOT sweet! LOL ~!~~~~~


It's twisted :p.

LunaBelle wrote: "MK my first language is Arabic. I also speak/read French."

I would have guessed Spanish because of that "Luna".

No, I don't know Spanish. I remember one discussion at a bar with friends and there was Rammstein's Te Quiero Puta playing. My male friend understood "Te Quiero" and I knew "Puta". I don't know what that tells about us. And no, I don't know where I've learned that.

He's a romantic, and you have a potty mouth? lol ~

Hmmm, unless Te Quiero was "I WANT" and not "I LOVE".

Hmmmmm .... maybe he's not a romantic. :D

Thanks MK!

Lmao, tytti i think that i can guess the meaning of puta as well :p

heh funny.

Okay, dinnertime here in Maine~! Nice chatting with you ladies, and welcome again, Luna :)

MK wrote: "Hmmm, unless Te Quiero was "I WANT" and not "I LOVE"."

No, it means "I love". But I didn't say I'd use the word, I just understood it. It wouldn't surprise me if I had learned it from some Pedro Almodóvar movie.

ETA: Actually I think it means "I love you", like French te in Je t'aime.

Thanks :) and bon appetit!

Tytti wrote: "MK wrote: "Hmmm, unless Te Quiero was "I WANT" and not "I LOVE"."

No, it means "I love". But I didn't say I'd use the word, I just understood it. It wouldn't surprise me if I had learned it from s..."

"I love" can be Te Quiero, or Te Amo. Te Amo is the hot, passionate, romantic, spouse sort of love. I don't speak French, but I think maybe that is the one that corresponds to Je t'aime?

But, querer also means "I want", or "I would like to have", or something like that. It does mean "I love", too, but more like you love your friends and family, although it can mean love your spouse, too.

Anyway, I'm not the best person, I only had high school spanish. Someone who knows the language should probably explain it, instead of me :D.

Also, heheh, just teasing you on the 'potty mouth' comment. I am reading Hyperbole and a Half: Unfortunate Situations, Flawed Coping Mechanisms, Mayhem, and Other Things That Happened for another club. She's TOTALLY hilarious, that author. BUT, total potty mouth ;-).

LunaBelle wrote: "Thanks :) and bon appetit!"

ty, LunaBelle! sheesh, I'm eating again (it's bfast now).

haha well bon appetit again :D

How is your day going?

LunaBelle wrote: "haha well bon appetit again :D

How is your day going?"

haha! ty :)

It looks to be beautiful actually. I'm beginning to hope .... can this winter FINALLY be over!??! (It has been the worst winter I can remember! Ever!)

How is your day going? I hope lovely :-)). What meal comes next for you?

I'm about to have lunch :)

It's really warmn here, but I will not be able to go out. Need to get some reading done for school =/

LunaBelle wrote: "I'm about to have lunch :)

It's really warmn here, but I will not be able to go out. Need to get some reading done for school =/"

ahhhh, sorry :-(.
Hopefully, it will be interesting reading, at least !!

Enjoy your lunch! :D

MK wrote: ""I love" can be Te Quiero, or Te Amo."

Heh, I was talking about that "Te" only, that it probably means "you".

Ty MK!
Oh it's Heidegger's work of art. It's interesting.

Hi tytti.

LunaBelle wrote: "Ty MK!
Oh it's Heidegger's work of art. It's interesting...."

Oh, yea, that sounds wicked interesting! Happy thinking :)



Tytti wrote: "MK wrote: ""I love" can be Te Quiero, or Te Amo."

Heh, I was talking about that "Te" only, that it probably means "you"."

ahhahaha ... right, I knew that ;-)

(I didn't, but I'll pretend :D)

LunaBelle wrote: "Hi tytti."

Oh, hi there Luna! Btw, I was wondering... I don't know where are you from but I have noticed that many Arabs seem to speak fluent French. Is it a popular language to study or is it just because I have watched French documentaries and the interviewees have studied in France or something? Oh and I know that countries like Algeria used to be under French rule and that's why it's spoken there. (I don't know how popular it is, though...)

I am in the middle of a language debate and was wondering how useful French would be there. Most Finns don't know Arabic after all (most don't know French, either, which is sort of my point).

I live in Morocco which was also colonized by the French. Since we got out independence, French has become a second language. We learn it at school since the age of 8. French is really popular here, and in most countries which were under the French colonization. You wouldnt have a problem to communicate with people in French in those countries, esp in cities.

Oh, thanks. That's how I've understood it, actually. (Though your independence started more peacefully than in Algeria, for example.) It's good thing, since Arabic is a bit difficult for us Europeans...

I have always liked French, it's a shame I wasn't able to to start studying it before I was already 16, so I don't really know it. (And it's one of the reasons why I am in the middle of the language debate. We have to start studying Swedish as a second foreign language but the difference is that we don't actually need, use or hear it anywhere...)

What a shame. You should rather learn a language you'd need for your own reasons.

Personally, I wish i could speak German. Mostly because of their philosophy lol.

LunaBelle wrote: "Personally, I wish i could speak German. Mostly because of their philosophy lol."

German is actually my third best language. But because I started it a year later than Swedish and they are very similar, I can't really use it because they get mixed, though I can understand some German. (One of the arguments for mandatory Swedish is that it's easier to learn other languages after that. That tells you all about the level of the discussion. And this is something that politicians keep telling us. The whole thing would be so laughable if it weren't so bad for the Finnish society because most Finns know only English. Hardly anyone can speak French, or German, or Russian, or any other major language.)

Though I could have started French in German's place but it was probable that there wouldn't be a continuing class in the upper secondary school I would go afterwards (not enough students taking that) so I chose German that gets that class.

Teach me German, and I teach you French :p

I think I would win in that deal. :-P

Haha i guess xD

Gene wrote: "Does anyone have an interest in literary non-fiction."

There is some super classic non-fiction. It's a great idea to read some Plato or Herodotus. Or, The Complete Essays by Montaigne. Has Walden by Thoreau been nominated?

We read 12 Years a Slave and Other Slave Narratives by Northup.

How about The Autobiography of Alice B. Toklas by Stein. Or The Origin of Species by Darwin (is this literary?).

It's time to get nominating . . .

Daisy wrote: "Gene wrote: "Does anyone have an interest in literary non-fiction."

There is some super classic non-fiction. It's a great idea to read some Plato or Herodotus. Or, The Complete Essays..."

The captivity narrative can also be interesting.

Maybe for classic non-fiction we could read some of Roland Barthes work? I don't know if anyone else would be interested in this. But in my literature classes we talk about him quite a lot, he's had a very large influence on literature.

I'd suggest reading The Death of the Author (his most "famous" work I think).

Again I don't know if this is a good idea for this group, so maybe I'll try to read it by myself sometime!

The Death of the Author

The Death of The Author is really good. It gives a view into a new standpoint within the modern/postmodern age. I'd also suggest Barthes'

It's quiet here!
What's up, people?

LunaBelle wrote: "It's quiet here!
What's up, people?"

I was readin' :p


:). (um, breakfast! ... I think I'm always eating :D)

mmmm pasta! (but I only eat whole grain :D).

It was a breakfast sandwich :D. Ham, egg and cheese on a croissant. And coffee. Second cup right now ;-)

haha - all three of our posts were exactly 10 minutes apart!

okay, heading away from keyboard. Chat ya all later :D

hmmm all this food talking made me hungry :p

heh~

Just had lunch: chicken.

mmmmmmm !

Time for me to start thinking about it ;-)