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Okay, Here we go.

Girl's version
Seven things has Lady Lackless
Keeps them underneath her black dress
One a ring that's not for wearing
One a sharp word, not for swearing,
Right beside her husband's candle
There's a door without a handle
In a box, no lid or locks
Lackless keeps her husband's rocks
There's a secret she's been keeping
She's been dreaming and not sleeping
On a road, that's not for traveling
Lackless likes her riddle raveling

Boy's version
Seven things stand before
The entrance to the Lackless door.
One of them a ring unworn
One a word that is forsworn
One a time that must be right
One a candle without light
One a son who brings the blood
One a door that holds the flood
One a thing tight-held in keeping
Then comes that which comes with sleeping.


Those are the poems.

So: Third line in the girl's version: One's a ring that's not for wearing. Sound like a ring we know? Like, maybe one Meluan gave Kvothe?


Third line in BOy's poem: One of them a ring unworn. Again, see above.

eighth line: One a son who brings the blood. A son, of Netalia Lackless, (aka Kvothe; The Dark Laurian song, Not Tally A Lot Less, Nelalia Lackless)

ninth and tenth line: One a thing tight-held in keeping
Then comes that which comes with sleeping. Ninth line: The box. They keep it very safe, like they hold it tight and don't let go of it. 10th line: The thing that comes with sleeping is the moon, and the box, no lid or locks, was jax's box from Hespe's story.

Caudicus states that the name Lackless has been changed in different branches of the family. There was Loeclos, Loklos, Loelos, Luckless, etc.

One of Jax's defining features was that he was "Unlucky in all things." The name Luckless? I think the Lackless box has the name of the moon in it, and it originaly belonged to Jax.


message 2: by Shawn (new)

Shawn | 13 comments This is one of the more fleshed out theories I've read. It makes sense to me!


message 3: by Mucho (new)

Mucho | 6 comments I can definitely get behind this train of thought.


message 4: by Pamela (new)

Pamela Bailey (pjbailey) | 1 comments very good analysis, how many times did you read the book? :)


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