Nothing But Reading Challenges discussion

Sandy wrote: "What happens if we're fired upon a blank spot? We read something to bank?"

Yes, it becomes Reader's Choice.

NOTE: You may still get a SLOOP with this, as the person reading that book "made" it the hit-upon genre.

You get a point for reading a Reader's Choice, but you don't get any extra points for "dodging" a hit. However, the team firing on you does NOT get a point, since they missed.

RULE EDIT: With regards to SALVOS, we will allow this to be earned over time. Meaning a team member may read one genre one week and ANOTHER team member may read one another week to make a complete pair for a SALVO to be banked. However, remember team members may only count one book a week as ‘read’. This is to keep it fair, since we have people who read 75 books a year and those who read 300.

This has been edited in Post #1.

Try 325 for me

@MODS- Do we need to say what was hit when acknowledging our spaces?

When and where do we get whatever we are getting, my guy wants to go out today

Lindy you should probably check your team's private group and see what's going on there. To see what genre's might have been hit and what one's they are planning to defend against future hits.

That was a good mystery

Turtlecollector wrote: "@MODS- Do we need to say what was hit when acknowledging our spaces?"

No.

I did and saw nothing, so I am going out for the evening, and will just read like always

Lindy you should probably check your team's private group and see what's going on there. To see what genre's might have been hit and what one's they are planning to defend against future hits

I have some questions I need clarified. Are we, each member, only allowed to count one book read per week toward the challenge?

Sarah wrote: "I have some questions I need clarified. Are we, each member, only allowed to count one book read per week toward the challenge?"

Good question Sarah I was thinking the same thing.

Let's wait for the book ninja

Sarah wrote: "I have some questions I need clarified. Are we, each member, only allowed to count one book read per week toward the challenge?"

Yes.

I'm confused by these two comments, they seem to contradict each other:

Logan wrote: "And to make sure I have this right, each team member can only count one book read per firing?"

Yes, one book read a week per person. How you strategize is up to you.

and

Logan wrote: "Okay, thanks. So each team member can read for a Salvo AND a Sloop each week if they want?"

Correct.

How would a team member read for a salvo AND a sloop each week if we can only count one book per week per person?




And another question on sloops and salvos. This week the fires on my team were a paranormal hit and a miss.

One of us has to read paranormal. You've mentioned before that RC is also a "genre", so I assume we can bank up a lot of sloop here just for reading our one book a week. Do we need one of us to deflect the RC or can we bank all 6 remaining books as sloops?

Wait, I'm confuse... for a salvo it means two members reading the same genre, right?

So, if I'm not mistaken, since the teams only have 7 members, we can do a max of 1 salvo and two sloops a week, right?

or 2 salvos and a sloop, whatever the combinations are.

Exactly - I feel like I get contradicting answers and am getting confused.

Vicky, my understanding is that one person reads for RC and determines that genre, then one other member can read the same genre for a sloop. Since there are two spaces fired at, the team can possibly earn up to 2 sloops and up to 2 salvos using 4 players not covering a space. The RC still counts as a space needing covered, just not a point for the team firing on you.

I meant sloops (for single books) in my post above, sorry if that confused you! :s

Turtlecollector wrote: "Vicky, my understanding is that one person reads for RC and determines that genre, then one other member can read the same genre for a sloop."

That makes sense.

Turtlecollector wrote: "Since there are two spaces fired at, the team can possibly earn up to 2 sloops and up to 2 salvos using 4 players not covering a space."

Shouldn't we be able to earn up to 5 sloops - if there are 5 players not tied down to defending hits?

You can earn (this round) only 2 sloops. Because it's 1 sloop per firing upon. Next round if you are shot 3 times (either hits or misses) you get a chance to win 3 sloops. A sloop technically still needs 2 players to be earned (the person defending the hit AND one of the other members)

Well that is not what the rules say - they say one sloop can be earned per member so I think you are correct Vicky.

Wait... 2 sloops and 2 salvos? that's 8 books, right? We only have 7 members...

Gaaaaa... *onto reading definitions again*

I didn't think of it like that. There was something about only counting as 1 for each pair of books read as a salvo and transferred that over to sloops as well. The same book(the one read defending the square) couldn't be part of two sloops, but I guess it really is the other reader's book that is counting for the sloop.

"SLOOP: If more than one team member reads the challenged genre, this is considered a sloop and they may “bank” it for a future attack. This is one way a team may safe-guard for a future attack or earn any points in their “bank.” Each member is limited to one sloop per “firing” or challenge."

Team 1 - Person A, Person B, Person C, Person D, Person E, Person F, Person G

Round 1 - 2 shots received

A and B defend the hits. C reads same genre as A and earns a Sloop. D reads same genre as B and earns a Sloop.
No more sloops can be earned this round.
E and F both read same genre - earns a Salvo.
G reads something to his/her liking that can be used as a Salvo on next round.

(this is if i understood everything correctly. Hope it helps)

Computer crashed. On Kindle. Rebooting. Will clarify: only ONE book a week allowed per member. Will edit earlier post to Logan and notify her.

Sorry for confusion... was reading too fast... saw the word "team" and skipped over 'member'. A team MAY read for both a SLOOP and a SALVO.

I think you probably don't want to do too many like that though, because there is only so many of one genre on a card and then your sloop is tied only to that specific genre.

Agreed Turtle. It was just a simple example so that people could understand somewhat how it works. Of course on later rounds it will be impossible to do. And it will also depend a lot on the strategy your team wants to use.

Eni wrote: ""SLOOP: If more than one team member reads the challenged genre, this is considered a sloop and they may “bank” it for a future attack. This is one way a team may safe-guard for a future attack or ..."

We're interpreting this differently. The rules says that each MEMBER is limited to one sloop per "firing" but it doesn't say that a TEAM is limited to a certain number.

Eni wrote: ""SLOOP: If more than one team member reads the challenged genre, this is considered a sloop and they may “bank” it for a future attack. This is one way a team may safe-guard for a future attack or ..."

For your example, it works perfectly if the rule said 'team' limited to one sloop. With 'member' there it is a little more ambiguous. I would not be against changing this to say team.

Turtlecollector wrote: "I think you probably don't want to do too many like that though, because there is only so many of one genre on a card and then your sloop is tied only to that specific genre."

In post 19 the mods said you bank the BOOK, not the GENRE.

Correct again Vicky. You can bank your book under that genre but later use it for any of the other genres the book banked qualifies.

And any member that is not defending a hit can read the same genre of the hit and bank it as a sloop, or they can pair up with another member and read a different genre for a salvo, but only bank one of the books.

Yes. Should say "team" - Turtle. Will edit.

Eni wrote: ""SLOOP: If more than one team member reads the challenged genre, this is considered a sloop and they may “bank” it for a future attack. This is one way a team may safe-guard for a future attack or ..."

I think this is wrong the rules clearly say each member can earn a sloop. But one member cannot earn more than one sloop, and if they read for a salvo they cannot read for a sloop because each member can only count one book they read per firing/challenge.

RULE EDIT:

SLOOP: If more than one team member reads the challenged genre, this is considered a sloop and they may “bank” it for a future attack. This is one way a team may safe-guard for a future attack or earn any points in their “bank.” Each member team is limited to one sloop per “firing” or challenge. (You may have multiple teams “firing on” your team! See above.)

Vicky and Turtle you guys are absolutely right. I did a little bit of what LK did *whistles* i kinda skipped over the "member" part. i had to read it like 10 times to finally catch on >_> i was assuming it was team

So now we are changing the rules? That really sucks.

there is no change on the rules Sarah.

We need 2 books to make a sloop. Only one book per member counts. So it couldn't be a sloop per member.

Rules have been edited for clarity as well as Post #74.

Logan wrote: "Okay, thanks. So each team member can read for a Salvo AND a Sloop each week if they want?"

Correct.Incorrect!

A team may earn both a SLOOP and a SALVO, but not any one member may NOT read more than one book a week and have it count for BBB.

Sarah wrote: "So now we are changing the rules? That really sucks."

Sorry, Sarah, this was an error on my part (Lisa Kay's). I apologize. As you can see in Post #72 ABOVE that one, I stated that a member may one read one book a week for BBB.

Vicky wrote: "Turtlecollector wrote: "I think you probably don't want to do too many like that though, because there is only so many of one genre on a card and then your sloop is tied only to that specific genre..."

I read that wrong and was thinking of salvos, which aren't read to cover a specific genre but genres match when read by a pair of members. Glad it works for sloops too.

Sarah, the teams are not balanced like they were in the Tower Team Reading Challenge. There are some 300 and 200 a year readers. It would NOT be fair to allow members to read more than one book a week for BBB.

No it changes everything. It said if a member reads the challenged genre it counts as a sloop, one sloop could be earned per member, now it is much more limiting in our strategizing to one sloop per team per firing. Before members could choose to read their book for a sloop instead of a salvo - now only one member can choose to do this. I just had to change a whole strategy I had been working on with my team.

Yes, Eni has it right in Post #132.

Yes, Sarah is correct in Post #139.

This has nothing to do with changing the rule of one book a week per member it has to do with a member getting to choose to read their 1 book for a salvo or a sloop. Now it is just much more limited.

Sarah wrote: "This has nothing to do with changing the rule of one book a week per member it has to do with a member getting to choose to read their 1 book for a salvo or a sloop. Now it is just much more limited."

Alright. I'm officially confused now.

I'm sorry Sarah. I'm sure LK is sorry for the misunderstanding as well. But this is only the first round of the game. The first round is where we usually clear up the last of the doubts that show up. It's the first day of the first round. There's plenty of time to come up with a new strategy. Possibly half of the teams don't have a set strategy yet. Besides, this is just for everyone to have fun reading.

Sonia wrote: "there is no change on the rules Sarah.

We need 2 books to make a sloop. Only one book per member counts. So it couldn't be a sloop per member."

And the rules said a sloop was earned if a member read the challenged genre, which was limited to one sloop per member, so it didn't take two books it took 1 book. Of course, this couldn't include the members already defending a hit or reading a salvo with another member

Just explaining the reasoning behind it all, but adjustments will have to be made.

Ok, so to clarify...

We can earn one sloop per team per missile fired. Thus, we can earn two sloops this week.

With 7 players on a team, we can have either 1 sloop and 2 salvos (P1 Deflects, P2 Deflects + P3 Sloop, P4 + P5 Salvo, P6 + P7 Salvo) OR 2 sloops and 1 salvo (P1 Deflects + P2 Sloop, P3 Deflects + P4 Sloop, P5 + P6 Salvo, P7 Reader's Choice/Potential Salvo for Next Round).

Earning a SLOOP for a Reader's Choice is akin to earning a SALVO - both members have to read the same genre, but it can be ANY genre.

I think perhaps people had been wondering like me if we were able to earn 5 sloops as follows:

First Shot - A reads genre to defend, B reads same genre for a sloop, C reads the same genre for 2nd sloop and D also reads same genre for 3rd sloop = defended shot and 3 sloops earned

Second Shot - E reads genre to defend, F reads same genre for a sloop and G reads the same genre for 2nd sloop = defended shot and 2 sloops earned

Total: 2 shots defended and 5 sloops earned