Reading with Style discussion

Post questions about the EotP challenge here.

Liz, this is fantastic and took quite a bit of work to put together! Thank you!

Ooh this is fun!

Question: if you claim the bonus points for a book that qualifies for two or more awards, does that stop you claiming any of those awards for another book?

So for example if I read Small Island which qualifies for Baileys/Orange and Commonwealth awards, could I still claim another one that qualifies for one of those awards, or not?

EDIT: I think I found the answer, looking at your own list, it looks like I could claim Small Island for say Baileys/Orange and then another book for Commonwealth, or vice versa.

Rosemary wrote: " I think I found the answer, looking at your own list, it looks like I could claim Small Island for say Baileys/Orange and then another book for Commonwealth, or vice versa...."

Correct!

Karen GHHS wrote: "Liz, this is fantastic and took quite a bit of work to put together! Thank you!"

~smile~ It was a lot of work and so much fun to hunt down the different awards!

Thanks Liz! And with the Translation prizes, do you have to read the particular translation?

Rosemary wrote: "Thanks Liz! And with the Translation prizes, do you have to read the particular translation?"

I would encourage it, but the particular translation is not required. ;)

For the translation prizes, when it comes to the publication year/decade, do we use the original publication date or the publication of the version that won the award?

I love this idea, by the way! I'm having a lot of fun going though all the awards :)

For all books, please use the original publication date for determining your decades. It probably seems strange that some will have dates prior to establishment of any prizes, like the Russian ones, but we decided to strive for consistency when possible.

Sounds good! Thanks :)

Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "For all books, please use the original publication date for determining your decades. It probably seems strange that some will have dates prior to establishment of any prizes, like the Russian ones..."

One of the reasons for using those translation prizes was to have more books originally published before 1970, which helps with the "at least five different decades" requirement!

So as long as we have 5 different decades, we can repeat decades?

Jayme(the ghost reader) wrote: "So as long as we have 5 different decades, we can repeat decades?"

Yes, repeats are fine. You can have up to 6 books in one decade, as long as you have at least 5 different decades (you can have more than 5 decades).

I want to read Night of the Republic by Alan Shapiro, which is on the Griffin Poetry Prize as a 2013 International nominee. However the MPE has only 80 pages. (I know it doesn't matter, but the Kindle edition which I would be reading is listed at 117 pages.)

Do I need to follow the usual rule and read a second collection by this poet, or will just the winning title be acceptable? Not sure how popular the poetry awards will be, but I'm thinking this question might come up with some other titles too.

Paper Towns won the Edgar Allan Poe Award in 2009 - the Edgar Allan Poe Award doesn't appear on your list - is this book not eligible for this challenge?

Paper Towns by John Green

Shannon wrote: "Paper Towns won the Edgar Allan Poe Award in 2009 - the Edgar Allan Poe Award doesn't appear on your list - is this book not eligible for this challenge?

Paper Towns by [author:John..."

Only the prizes listed are eligible for EotP.

Have the mods made a ruling on my question in post #14?

Thanks.

D wrote: "Have the mods made a ruling on my question in post #14?"

Not yet.

D wrote: "I want to read Night of the Republic by Alan Shapiro, which is on the Griffin Poetry Prize as a 2013 International nominee. However the MPE has only 80 pages. (I kn..."

Sorry, I've been distracted by work this week. Kate reminded me of the answer for this.

Poetry collections, especially the "Collected Works" or "Selected Poems" variety can have widely different contents in the various editions. So, as stated in our FAQ section, we'll use your specific edition to determine the page count rather than the most popular edition.

You are good to go on this one.

I'll probably remember this one , but for poetry please link to your edition when you post, not to the most popular edition. I need to try to make sure I get it right entering it in the scorekeeping database. ;-)

Liz M wrote: "...You are good to go on this one. "

Thanks, Liz.


Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "...please link to your edition when you post, not to the most popular edition..."

OK, I'll do that!

So hard to choose!

Added plus- these lists are helpful to find books for the other challenge tasks, like 10.5Twelfth Night and 20.3 The Merchant of Venice

Thanks for doing the research for us!

Liz M wrote: "One of the reasons for using those translation prizes was to have more books originally published before 1970, which helps with the "at least five different decades" requirement!"

I'm planning to read Suite Française for the PEN translation prize. It was first published (and translated) in 2004 but she died in 1942. I think I will have enough decades either way but just to know if it qualifies for the pre-1990 points, what date should I use for this?

Rosemary wrote: "I'm planning to read Suite Française for the PEN translation prize. It was first published (and translated) in 2004 but she died in 1942. I think I will have enough decades either way but just to know if it qualifies for the pre-1990 points, what date should I use for this? "

Please use the 2004 publication date as it was not previously published as some of the other translation winners were.

OK thanks Elizabeth!

I might be completely wrong about this, but the Scoring rules state that

C. Read a book that meets the requirements for two or more award lists (as specified below), receive 10 bonus points.

Since I read Affinity by Sarah Waters, I counted 10 extra points because it won both the Ferro-Grumley award in the Lesbian category for 2001 and it won the Somerset-Maugham Award in 2000.

This would bring my total to 60. But my total is only 50 on the readerboard. Were the bonus points not counted?

Thanks

Nick wrote: "I might be completely wrong about this, but the Scoring rules state that

C. Read a book that meets the requirements for two or more award lists (as specified below), receive 10 bonus points.

Sin..."

Kate will fix this next time.

We haven't had a sub-challenge with styles since Fall 2011 - it's an adjustment!

Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Nick wrote: "I might be completely wrong about this, but the Scoring rules state that

C. Read a book that meets the requirements for two or more award lists (as specified below), receive 10 bonus ..."

I understand. I'm only doing the sub-challenge, and my mind reels.

Would I be able to use The Little Man? I can't find a lexile for it, but I can't find it on BPL either.

Coralie wrote: "Would I be able to use The Little Man? I can't find a lexile for it, but I can't find it on BPL either."

Yes you can. Since BPL doesn't have it catalogued at all, it has no YA designation for our purposes.

Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Coralie wrote: "Would I be able to use The Little Man? I can't find a lexile for it, but I can't find it on BPL either."

Yes you can. Since BPL doesn't have it catalogued at all, it..."

Thank you.

I am reading Why Read the Classics? by Italo Calvino. The book itself was first published in 1991 but the articles were all published before his death in 1985. Which decade does this count for?

Could you tell me if you counted

Baba Yaga Laid an Egg for the 1980s(original pub?), 2000s(translation pub) or 2010s(award)?
When I originally posted, I had an original publication date of 1983. I'm not sure which is correct. I had the book from the library, so I can't check the book for copyright.

Thanks

Karen GHHS wrote: "Could you tell me if you counted

Baba Yaga Laid an Egg for the 1980s(original pub?), 2000s(translation pub) or 2010s(award)?
When I originally posted, I had an original publication ..."

We are using the original publication date. According to Dubravka Ugrešić's website Baba Yaba was originally published (in Croatian) in 2008.

Liz M wrote: "Karen GHHS wrote: "Could you tell me if you counted

Baba Yaga Laid an Egg for the 1980s(original pub?), 2000s(translation pub) or 2010s(award)?
When I originally posted, I had an or..."

Thanks for checking!

message by Kate S:

From Post 588

Nick wrote: "EotP



15.6 - 2007 shortlist -- Samuel Johnson Prize. I read Murder in Amsterdam...."

+10 Multi (also won LA Times Current Events)

Thanks for pointing out those extra points, Kate S.

I am reading 1Q84 by Haruki Murakami, which is published as both mega opus of 925 pages and as 3 separate books. The larger book clearly indictes where each of the 3 books begins and ends. For EothP, I found 1Q84 on the International IMPAC Dublin 2013 shortlist, the Independent Foreign Fiction Prize 2012 longlist, and the Man Asian Literary Prize 2011 longlist.

To claim 1Q84, must I read all 3 books? I'd like to do so, but I'm only 1/2 way through book 1 and have far to go if I want to finish EotP this season. Whatever you say is fine...I'm just trying to plan my reading time for May.