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message 1: by Ann (new)

Ann  Thorrson (ann_thorrson) | 2536 comments Mod
Those with a turbulent beginning can be afforded a peaceful end - A Dance With Fury :3


message 2: by Nicole (last edited Mar 04, 2014 08:51AM) (new)

Nicole Michelle | 450 comments Mod
Very cool article! They put a lot of thought into that one haha.

@Bisky ;-; so deep.

Ok, mines kinda depressing xp


Ashley believes she can still live the normal life of a teenager while in hiding from three dangerous beings who are out for her blood.


I just realized how Vampy that sounded, I swear my book has nothing to do with vampires! lol Although I do manage to throw a vampy joke in there at one point buahahaha


message 3: by Nicole (new)

Nicole Michelle | 450 comments Mod
Thanks Jennifer ^^ It's loads of fun creating lies I think, plus my character is probably the most stubborn person on Earth so that makes everything even more fun to write since she so set in her views. lol Her mind is not easily changed even if it is a lie. She'd rather be comfortable in a lie than uncomfortable in reality haha.


Carrie (the_carrie_plotter) (lilly_raines) | 6 comments My character believes he has no control over his life, that he's just a pawn being moved by some cruel, unseen force. BTW, I love this article!


message 5: by G.G. (new)

G.G. (ggatcheson) | 1053 comments Mod
Gotta love these threads. They help us learn more about our friends' fictional characters. That was a great idea Jennifer!

My character, Alex, believes he is too different from everyone, including his own people, to fit anywhere. (The Legacy: Fate)


message 6: by G.G. (new)

G.G. (ggatcheson) | 1053 comments Mod
Nicole wrote: "Ok, mines kinda depressing xp
Ashley believes she can still live the normal life of a teenager while in hiding from three dangerous beings who are out for her blood."


I don't think it depressive. On the contrary, it means your character has hmm character. :P She can keep her optimism whatever what happens... I mean really, she's someone to have by your side in case of an apocalypse. :)


message 7: by G.G. (new)

G.G. (ggatcheson) | 1053 comments Mod
Bisky wrote: "Those with a turbulent beginning can be afforded a peaceful end - A Dance With Fury :3"

I'd have to say what I told Nicole for your character too... Even if it's a lie, optimism can never be a bad thing. I prefer people who always see the glass half full than those who see it half empty all the time. Of course, a mix of both would be the best. :P


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G.G. (ggatcheson) | 1053 comments Mod
Lilly wrote: "My character believes he has no control over his life, that he's just a pawn being moved by some cruel, unseen force. BTW, I love this article!"

Well I know a lot of people who can relate to that! Especially when bad things keep happening one after the other. :(


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G.G. (ggatcheson) | 1053 comments Mod
Jennifer wrote: "I will go first:)

Free Runner (pub Jan 2014):
14 yr old Cam believes life was better back in California and is convinced his father is selfish, only interested in his own agenda.

WIP: A 13 yr ol..."


character 1- where are they living now? Maybe he's not totally wrong... Sunshine state might be better than the North Pole?! :p

character 2- This one leaves me wondering... Especially that you say it's false... Did he do something to provoke his arch nemesis and refuse to see it?


message 10: by Nicole (new)

Nicole Michelle | 450 comments Mod
lol according to GG we write the same character Bisky

Emerald = Ashley :o lol


message 11: by G.G. (new)

G.G. (ggatcheson) | 1053 comments Mod
Nicole wrote: "lol according to GG we write the same character Bisky

Emerald = Ashley :o lol"


LOL no! They may have optimism in common but that doesn't make them the same. I believe optimism is a great quality, although sometimes you may want to shake those people to wake them up... the sky is not ALWAYS blue, sometimes it's grey and even darker. :P

@Jennifer I can understand the first kid... Moving so far away isn't easy, especially for teens.
The second one, I see a love story in the making! :P


message 12: by Nicole (new)

Nicole Michelle | 450 comments Mod
Hahahaha ^^ I'm only teasin'. Sure our characters are both bad ass and cool and awesome and optimistic, but does that make them the same? Nooooo


message 13: by Brian (new)

Brian Basham (brianbasham) | 390 comments I want to join in, but It will give away important parts of my novel. Instead I'll pose this question.. Do your antagonists have a lie they believe?

I think it's important to have characters that seem real, and they all have their own motivations and beliefs.


message 14: by Claire (new)

Claire (cycraw) | 278 comments Hah, @Brian if I answer either one of these questions (protagonist or antagonist) I risk giving away too much of the plot.


message 15: by Brittany (last edited Mar 05, 2014 07:56AM) (new)

Brittany Willows (brittanymwillows) Awesome article! And what a lovely bunch of lies in this thread. ;D haha.

My character, Kenon Valinquint, has a reoccurring belief that he is worth nothing and that he truly is the weakling everyone makes him out to be.

I say "reoccurring" because there are times he thinks his combat skills should make up for his other shortcomings, and that he can prove himself if given the chance. Through most of his life, however, he has simply accepted the cruel words of those around him as the truth.

This is probably the biggest lie in anything I've ever written. xD


message 16: by David (last edited Mar 05, 2014 10:02AM) (new)

David Thirteen (davidjthirteen) Jennifer, thanks for sharing that great article.

And I love hearing how everybody has this lie written into their work.

A hadn't heard of this device before, but my MC has something that I have been calling (in my own head, when I think about it) a character disorder, but it is definitely his lie:

He is the smartest person in the room - Mr. 8


message 17: by Brittany (new)

Brittany Willows (brittanymwillows) @Jennifer: Definitely a common one. True as that may be, I'm hoping what breaks it is much more original! Haha. It's certainly something I haven't read about before, which is one of the reasons I chose to do it. c:

@David: Interesting lie! Love it. :)


message 18: by David (last edited Mar 05, 2014 08:06AM) (new)

David Thirteen (davidjthirteen) @Jennifer, another great article! I had seen a Tweet linking to it a few days ago but didn't read it. I have her site bookmarked now and will have to check out more of her essays.

My MC is actually very humble even to the point of being self deprecating. But underneath, he is always certain he is right and more capable than the people around him. And it gets him into all kind of trouble.

@Brittany, thanks! I think yours is a great one - self doubt is something that can often be lacking. I'm sure it makes him well rounded and relatable to the reader.


message 19: by G.G. (new)

G.G. (ggatcheson) | 1053 comments Mod
David wrote: "He is the smartest person - Mr. 8
..."


LOVE THAT! I know a few people like that... Don't repeat this but my hubby also believes the same lie. :>

However, I have to admit sometimes he is smart after all. ;)


message 20: by David (new)

David Thirteen (davidjthirteen) Just looking it over and realized I forgot part of it - should have read "smartest person in the room."

@Jennifer, your question makes a little more sense now. (I must always proof read *slaps hand*)

@G.G., yes it probably isn't that uncommon - unfortunately.


message 21: by G.G. (new)

G.G. (ggatcheson) | 1053 comments Mod
@David Nothing wrong with not being uncommon. There are more traits to make one character unique...


message 22: by David (new)

David Thirteen (davidjthirteen) G.G., I agree. No one thing defines a character, especially your central characters. Although I intended my "unfortunately" to represent the people in the world who believe that lie. Lol!


message 23: by Neil (new)

Neil Bursnoll | 109 comments He believes he was given an opportunity at a second chance and doesn't question it. Events in the second book make him realise all is not right in his world.


message 24: by Kamil (new)

Kamil | 187 comments My MC Sille believes that she's the cursed-one because she has different eye-colors.


message 25: by G.G. (new)

G.G. (ggatcheson) | 1053 comments Mod
David wrote: "G.G., I agree. No one thing defines a character, especially your central characters. Although I intended my "unfortunately" to represent the people in the world who believe that lie. Lol!"

OH LOL Now that I've read your explanation, I wonder how I could so wrongly misinterpret it!


message 26: by Carl (new)

Carl Good idea. Thanks.


message 27: by Kelly (new)

Kelly | 27 comments I love that article! Wow thanks for posting :)

Okay so Anaiah's lie is her only worth while gift to the world is her duty to her father (the King), to her brother and sister, and to the Sisterhood of the Old Ones. She can't see beyond her responsibilities.

Mahina's lie is that freedom is not having anything tie her down; a free life on the open sea is all she needs.

If you saw any of my other posts Anaiah and Mahina are related, mother and daughter.

The other lies in this thread are so intriguing :)


message 28: by Kelly (new)

Kelly | 27 comments @Jennifer oh I intend to as soon as I am able to get to my computer :) Aww thanks. Yes, I was trying to do a full circle with these ladies. I can not dive into too much detail, but their lies are what the other loosely needs.


message 29: by [deleted user] (new)

Brittany's "Through most of his life he has simply accepted the cruel words of those around him as the truth."

An entire novel in 1 line.

I know a "diminished capacity" guy who, at around 50, has led his entire life in that quandary. In his mind, I think, he believes that what isn't cruel isn't true. Society's response, btw, is to drug him senseless.

Good times. Anyway, I love your lie and wonder how many believers litter our social circles. (I'm unsure whether I can count that high.)


message 30: by [deleted user] (new)

Kelly wrote: "their lies are what the other loosely needs. "

OUCH! Are you sure you weren't writing about my first wife and me? I think the parallel is too close for me to believe you're not spying on me... And I am NOT paranoid!



message 31: by [deleted user] (new)

Cain, at 17, believes so many lies that it's difficult to select a primary. Granted, the book is a razor blade slicing away those lies until there's nothing left but Cain, but I'll go with this:

Cain believes that he deserves to lie even more than everyone else, that he deserves to be even crueler than the next guy.

Woe unto him if he gets what he deserves.


message 32: by Kelly (new)

Kelly | 27 comments @Tony- Oh gosh, I am pretty sure I am not writing about you or your first wife...or am I? (insert evil laugh) I joke...but you know who does sound paranoid? Your character. What an interesting lie your character believes.


message 33: by Deb (new)

Deb (soulhaven) | 103 comments Incredibly fast and strong, Jonas believes he can't think for himself.

Well, how else does a physically inferior father-figure maintain control?

That's the biggy that I'm working to have him address in the current WIP.


message 34: by Deb (new)

Deb (soulhaven) | 103 comments James wrote: "In Snake Eyes Lie, Akara believes that he has been separated from the world. He believes that his life is ineffectual, and that fate will pass him by. In a nutshell, he believes "individuals don't matter".

Unfortunately, he's okay with this. Even more unfortunate, is that he's wrong."


Great idea for a novel of our times.


message 35: by Ann (new)

Ann  Thorrson (ann_thorrson) | 2536 comments Mod
I like that Deb, it's really intrigued me.


message 36: by Deb (new)

Deb (soulhaven) | 103 comments Bisky wrote: "I like that Deb, it's really intrigued me."

Woohoo! (o:


message 37: by Carl (new)

Carl Deb, like Bisky I'm also intrigued.


message 38: by Lauren (new)

Lauren Gilley | 40 comments Playing catch-up on this thread. Some great lies here. All characters have demons, but extracting them out and packaging them up like this is a really useful exercise - will be a help with those elevator sales pitches.

@Deb - I really like that, too. Parent/child dynamics are heavily responsible for the lies people believe, I think. Your scenario is the reverse of mine: physically powerful father making the son feel helpless - to the point he feels helpless to escape what he sees as the "curse" of his DNA.


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