Nothing But Reading Challenges discussion

I can't wait either. Sounds like its going to be a ,ot of laughs and fun, winor lose. :)

Woohoo!
:D

I've signed up and volunteered to Captain so I want to make sure I understand everything.

Your example:

25 points

How?

Team asks a question of opposing team and gets a "no" answer gains 0 points
Team read a book of opposing team choice genre for 10 points
45% of team read a book of opposing team choice genre for another 5 points
ALL team members read a book for the week for another 10 points

So, essentially, If I am with Team B with 5 members, and we ask Team A a question and get a "no" answer, Team A assigns us the genre Fantasy.

If 1 of us reads a FY book, we get 10 points. If 2 of us read Fantasy, my team gets an extra 5 points, right? Even if the other 3 team members read nothing at all?

Ideally, all 5 people read something for the maximum 25 points in this case.

Maybe I'm not asking this correctly. I'm confusing myself!

No worries, Sandy. yes you are *almost* right. If you have a team of 5, that would mean if only 2 members read Fantasy that isn't 45%. So in your example:

If 1 of us reads a FY book, we get 10 points. yes
If 2 of us read Fantasy, my team gets an extra 5 points, right? If 3 of you do, then you get an extra 5 points
Even if the other 3 team members read nothing at all?
Correct. If the remaining team members atleast read one book for the week then you would also get another 10 points.

Feel free to ask any clarifying questions!

Thank you for clarifying! :-) Looking forward to the game!

OK, Karen, sorry for asking again, but I was looking at your post #21:

With the 45% it is to try and keep things fair if members suddenly leave a team (unlikely in a short challenge, but does occassionally happen). So it would be 2/5, 3/6, 4/7

But now you are determining that for 5 people, 45% would be 3? (Technically it's 2.25 when using Excel, but I was a liberal arts major!) :-)

Whoops my calculator wasn't working that day ;)
I've edited the post to show 3/5. Thanks for picking it up!

so it's 3/5, 3/6, 4/7, 4/8?

Yes :)
looks like we have teams of 7 or 8
and are *very* close to posting!

sweet =D

If team b correctly guesses team a's book (say, in week 3), does team a get a new book or are they now "out" of the challenge?

They get a new book.

I need to understand the whole banking books idea. This is not clear to me. And when we bank a book, can any of the genres it qualifies be used later? And when we use a banked book later don't we still need to read another book that week?

Hi Sarah

Basically you need 45% of your team to read a certain genre each week for maximum points. So the remaining books can be "banked".
So, for example, this week you read a FY. But your team needs HF.
Your captain may then declare your FY "banked" for future use. So in a forthcoming week if you need FY you have one 'ready'.
As with battleship, each person can only have one book per week count so if you did use your banked book that week, any other book you read that week would not be able to be used.
I hope that helps :)

The Book Ninja knows *almost* everything.
You can always ask for help to answer the other teams questions.

Just want to point out NINJA that in battleship a book read that week counted always, one book per team member per week, even when a banked book was used. So if a banked book was used to cover a hit the person's could still read their weekly read and get another sloop or pair up for a salvo, so if a banked book is used couldn't we still have our weekly book count to bank as another book or use toward a genre?

What time on Friday do we need to post questions? Can it be any time in the morning so that answers can be given by afternoon in order to have time to find genres?

It doesn't seem to me as much of a imperative to have a post at a certain time to try to get there first in this game. Just early enough to give teams time to answer and get the genres the need to read for the week. For example, have question anytime before 11 and answer/genre by 2?

Karen and I were discussing the trimmings since we both are from different timezones...and from the other side of the Atlantic than most of you. But I like the time frame idea.

We'll brainstorm once she gets up

Question - can we choose a same genre again for a different team if it wasn't used on that team yet, or can each team only choose one genre once only period no matter what team.

Sarah wrote: "Just want to point out NINJA that in battleship a book read that week counted always, one book per team member per week, even when a banked book was used. So if a banked book was used to cover a hi..."

Hmmm... maybe my old brain isn't working as well as it should. Let me check with the mods and come back to you

Sarah wrote: "Question - can we choose a same genre again for a different team if it wasn't used on that team yet, or can each team only choose one genre once only period no matter what team."

Hi Sarah - yes you can. You just can't use the same genre on the same team (even if they didn't have to read it the first time)

Sarah wrote: "Just want to point out NINJA that in battleship a book read that week counted always, one book per team member per week, even when a banked book was used. So if a banked book was used to cover a hi..."

I've had a bit of Ninja thinking time and BBB was slightly different as the teams were even. Because we don't have the same number of team mates on all teams I think it may give an advantage/disadvantage if we allow for a banked book from a member AND a new book from that member to be used in the SAME week.

So if you use a banked book from yourself (Sarah) this week, then the book that you do read can be banked for future weeks.
There are no points for banked books at this stage, they are more just there to 'help out' if you get a tough genre.

If you disagree with me, I'm happy to listen to your reasons and be swayed!

The points are mismatched in the point examples message (the 25 and 20 point examples).
Does reading a book assigned by the other team give us 5 or 10 points?

That was intentional to have more of a disadvantage to not guessing correctly. However, on reflection, I think to keep the scoring simple I will make it 10 points to read a genre assigned no-matter what has happened in terms of guessing/answering correctly.
:)

Great, thanks! I knew the reader's choice was 10 points, I just didn't know what to tell my team about the assigned genres.
I've been running in circles and confusing myself all day :D. lol

lol
I'm glad you asked, it has made my scoring job easier... haha

Many of you have asked about
by Robert Galbraith.

We know it is a pseudonym, so what is the genre of the author?

We consider this as male author as that is how the book has been marketed.
It would be the same concept if we had a book listed by Ilona Andrews which is a husband and wife team, but the pseudonym is female, so we would consider it a female answer.

It is ok if you don't agree, but this is Ninja's official answer to ensure consistency for all our teams :)

I assumed the questions, answers and allocated genres would be made public so we can use this information to plan our next weeks question and make sure we don't double up on genre allocations. Will this be posted somewhere once everyones questions are in?

Yes, once all the questions, answers and genres have been submitted, I will post these.
:)

Ok, I think I understand most of this - but what I don't understand is when we find out what our book is that the other team is asking questions about. (sorry, bad grammar!). But hope you understand the question.

You have about 16 hours to let me know the question you will be asking the other team and the genre you are allocating.

Countdown until Captains need to submit Team Question and Genre to NBRC Book Ninja

That is when you find out the question for your team and the genre allocated to you :)

So, the deadline for finishing our books is when we get the question/genre for the next week?

yes :)

So the "second" countdown timer each week of when you need to submit your question and genre is also the deadline for when you need to read a book for the week for it to "count"

CAPTAINS - You have about 11 hours to let me know the question you will be asking the other team and the genre you are allocating. Either through your secret group, or via message.

Countdown until Captains need to submit Team Question and Genre to NBRC Book Ninja

Sorry if this was mentioned somewhere and I missed it, but I'm assuming that re-reads count as long as it fits the other criteria?

Sure Nichole. Provided it has been more than 6 months since you last read it :)

Thanks!

Is there a rule regarding children's books in this challenge? I was surprised to find a couple of my planned books with the tag of "children's", and before I start plotting, I would like to make sure I know if there was a rule in place and make sure I know the standards before deciding on which books to use each week. Thanks.

Is it still OK to have started the book earlier, but finish it this week? I have a book I would like to count and want to know if I should start over since I am not too far into the book yet.

Tagged as "children's" is ok provided it is more than 160 pages (and not a children's picture book!)

TC - it is the end date that counts :)

I was pretty sure that was the case, but I wanted to make sure before getting too far along. :)

i was wondering Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close has been listed as bestseller by 13 people would that count as Current Best Seller or not because it doesn't say current?

Sorry Stephanie, but shelved as "bestseller" doesn't count. It needs to be a “Current Best Seller” wherever you are, and this can be from a variety of sources (e.g. Barnes and Noble, Amazon etc.) provided you can give us a link showing the list :)

For example: book depository best sellers

i'm not sure how the book depository best sellers works exactly, i put in the name of the book and if it come up it means that is it a best seller? if there's nothing found it's not?

this is what it says


http://www.bookdepository.com/bestsel...

If you search for that book, and click on it, you will see under "sales rank" it is 2,501
So although book depository consider their bestsellers as a list of 1000, this one is outside of that. Sorry Stephanie!

okay, thank you

Post from a secret group....
Team Volto wrote:
I think, if we were to do this challenge again, it would be a good idea to let the team that asked the question make one guess as to the book identity after their question is answered. This would be an incentive to asking good questions. Just a thought...

Thanks .... and we never said that we wouldn't throw some new options and things in some weeks...

*evil laugh*

oh an evil twist! i like it =D

For week two only we are offering teams a special deal!

You can either:
1. Ask your allocated team a question AND
Take a guess at their cover (after receiving an answer to your question)

OR
2. Take a guess at your allocated team's cover AND
Take a guess at ANY* team's allocated cover (after seeing all of week two's questions and answers)


Oh... decisions... decisions...

*You can not "guess" your own team's cover!


Note: the second question is a 'bonus' so whether your team is allocated a genre or can do 'reader's choice' is based on the response to the first question you ask.

Examples under spoiler
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Example A:
Team Ninja chooses option 1.
We ask our allocated team a question and get a "yes" answer = 5 points + reader's choice
We take a guess at their cover (after receiving an answer to our question) and aren't correct = no penalty and no extra points
Our team read a book of our genre choice for another 10 points
45% of our team read a book of our genre choice for another 5 points
ALL team members read a book for the week for another 10 points
=30 points

Example B:
Team Ninja chooses option 1.
We ask our allocated team a question and get a yes answer = 5 points + reader's choice
We Take a guess at their cover (after receiving an answer to our question) and are correct = 15 points
Our team read a book of our genre choice for another 10 points
45% of our team read a book of our genre choice for another 5 points
ALL team members read a book for the week for another 10 points
=45 points

Example C:
Team Ninja chooses option 2.
We take a guess at our allocated team's cover and we are not correct = 0 points + must read assigned genre for maximum points
We take a guess at ANY team's allocated cover (after seeing all of week two's questions and answers) and are correct = 15 points
Our team read a book of our assigned genre for another 10 points
45% of our team read a book of our assigned genre for another 5 points
ALL team members read a book for the week for another 10 points
=40 points

Example D:
Team Ninja chooses option 2.
We take a guess at our allocated team's cover and we are correct = 15 points + reader’s choice
We take a guess at ANY team's allocated cover (after seeing all of week two's questions and answers) and are correct = 15 points
Our team read a book of our genre choice for another 10 points
45% of our team read a book of our genre choice for another 5 points
ALL team members read a book for the week for another 10 points
=55 points

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you forgot the option 2 and guess your allocated team's cover and get it wrong.
Guess at any allocated team's cover and you are wrong =p

but i guess it's like iin example A and there is no penalty points.. just reading the genre your allocated team gave u.