The Lies of Locke Lamora (Gentleman Bastard, #1) The Lies of Locke Lamora question


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Does anyone like the Grey King more than Locke Lamora?
L L Dec 24, 2015 04:31AM
Is it just me? I find Locke's way of dealing with things too hasty, lacking prudence and relying too much on improbable courses of event to get away with things.

The Grey King on the other hand is a true schemer. He might be cruel but methodical, and in a twisted way, fair. He wanted to deal with the nobles the same way he dealt with the crooks.

If revenge is an acceptable justification for violence as hinted in this book then why should the Grey king's thirst for revenge and action be any more despicable than Locke's? I feel like it is all the more respectable since it was a lifetime's work of patience and training.



In all honesty? At least Locke was good enough at heart to not let the nobles be 'gentled'. That's just unnecessarily cruel. Eugh.
Sure, the Grey King was brilliant but I sympathise more with Locke. Not just because he's the main character but also because he ALSO is brilliant. Those flashbacks you have in the book that show you Locke's past are the proof of that. He's a clever guy and you know what else is nice?
For once some main characters who started out as very ordinary people. I mean, come on, even Scott Lynch makes fun of the fact that Jean is 'ugly' (his words, not mine!) and that Locke is a 'forgettable guy'.
(While we're on the topic: it pays off following Scott Lynch's social media outlets. He's a pretty cool guy.)

Ps: Downvoting posts you don't agree with is pretty low. Just saying.


They're both criminals, who you "root" for depends on your point of view. We see things from Locke's point of view, so of course we sympathize with him, he's the protagonist. But from the point of view of other characters, both criminals should be hanged.

In Locke's defense, though, at least he looked down on violence and he only targeted the rich, which he saw as taking advantage of the common man (sort of a Robin Hood I guess, except he kept everything instead of giving to the poor). And he did save the nobles out of good faith.

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L Well, everyone in this book is crooked, except for, perhaps, most of the merchant class.

Morally speaking though Locke is not much better than Raza in
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Dec 24, 2015 08:24PM

I don't think the morality of the characters really matters. They're fictional. All I care about is that Locke is a really interesting character. I'm more invested in the antics of Locke than the Grey King, so he's logically who I root for. As for his plans being hasty and lacking prudence, I think that's what makes him interesting; you can never predict what crazy plan he'll come up with next.


I also liked the Gray King but he wanted the nobles children to die so ultimately i felt more sympathy for Locke.


All of the characters from the Gentleman Bastards series are morally grey. That’s what makes them interesting. Preferring the Grey King on a moral level is fine but can you say he would be as interesting as a protagonist? Locke and his friends have a sense of humour that makes the book great fun.

Also, the Grey King seemed inevitably on course to become everything he hated about the nobles.


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