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It's always seemed to be really long and daunting to me! I'm not 100% certain if I'll get round to it, with exams coming up and all that, but I'll definitely try!
What makes you love it so much, Faye?
What makes you love it so much, Faye?
Here's the review I wrote after reading it 2 years ago -
Here's something I never thought I'd say - I loved Dune! I think it fully deserves to be considered science fiction's magnum opus. None of the cliches seemed too cliche, as I usually find them in scifi, probably because Dune is the reason they became cliches in the first place. It was written and plotted so well and in such an engaging style that writers who have grown up reading it have tried to emulate it using their own ideas. Unfortunately, that hardly ever works - the original is almost always the best.
The amount of thought that must have gone into creating this world is astounding. I love that it's set so far into the future, yet it doesn't seem completely alien. Technology is more advanced, but not a big deal is made of that. Mankind has developed a certain degree of psychic ability, but it requires a lot of training to harness. We have colonized other worlds, but they're ruled in a medieval way that seems almost historical-fiction rather than futuristic. And the planet of Dune must have taken some serious creative juice to describe right down to the tiniest detail of its ecology. Absolutely amazing. Nothing was neglected - especially not the characters. They were all flesh and blood and leapt off the page right from the start. Herbert was a fantastic writer. I'm going to have to read the rest of the series now!
I also want to add that the Bene Gesserit mantra for overcoming fear is totally awesome -
Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past me I will turn to see fear's path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
Awesome. And on a superficial level - it's great to finally understand so many geek culture references!
Here's something I never thought I'd say - I loved Dune! I think it fully deserves to be considered science fiction's magnum opus. None of the cliches seemed too cliche, as I usually find them in scifi, probably because Dune is the reason they became cliches in the first place. It was written and plotted so well and in such an engaging style that writers who have grown up reading it have tried to emulate it using their own ideas. Unfortunately, that hardly ever works - the original is almost always the best.
The amount of thought that must have gone into creating this world is astounding. I love that it's set so far into the future, yet it doesn't seem completely alien. Technology is more advanced, but not a big deal is made of that. Mankind has developed a certain degree of psychic ability, but it requires a lot of training to harness. We have colonized other worlds, but they're ruled in a medieval way that seems almost historical-fiction rather than futuristic. And the planet of Dune must have taken some serious creative juice to describe right down to the tiniest detail of its ecology. Absolutely amazing. Nothing was neglected - especially not the characters. They were all flesh and blood and leapt off the page right from the start. Herbert was a fantastic writer. I'm going to have to read the rest of the series now!
I also want to add that the Bene Gesserit mantra for overcoming fear is totally awesome -
Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past me I will turn to see fear's path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
Awesome. And on a superficial level - it's great to finally understand so many geek culture references!
Btw, I rated it 4 stars on here, but I think it was 4.5 for some reason I can't remember.
Honestly, I don't even remember it being long. The world Herbert created was so detailed and so engaging that I got completely immersed in it and felt it ended way too soon. It was kind of a jolt to return to reality at the end, actually.
Honestly, I don't even remember it being long. The world Herbert created was so detailed and so engaging that I got completely immersed in it and felt it ended way too soon. It was kind of a jolt to return to reality at the end, actually.


I never read Sci-fi until last year when I read Ender's Game. So far I have enjoyed every book in Sci-fi I have read. I am surprised I have never read this genre before that.
Laura, I was in the exact same position as you for Science-Fiction. Ender's Game was my first exploration of the genre, and it really sparked my interest!
I must admit, I am putting this off. I had the choice to start reading it, but picked something shorter and easier! I blame my widget telling me I'm failing! I will get round to it though!
I must admit, I am putting this off. I had the choice to start reading it, but picked something shorter and easier! I blame my widget telling me I'm failing! I will get round to it though!
I'm now around 40% into it and it's living up to all the hype. There's a good balance between plot, and description of the world Herbert has created. Part 1 does start off rather slow, but heats up quickly, and pushes you right into the action.
I'm finding it surprisingly easy to read, actually. I expected to be really struggling with all the new words and people and items, but that's not the case. Sure, there are times when I look at a word and completely forget what it means, but the situation always allows you to work out from the discussions or actions. The writing actually reminds me of A Game of Thrones. You can see that each chapter focuses on one character, and that makes all the characters really depth in a rather short space of time.
I'm definitely interested in seeing where it goes. Paul is a really interesting kid, and I'm intrigued by the mystery surrounding him. (Plus I really love his mother, Jessica)
I'm finding it surprisingly easy to read, actually. I expected to be really struggling with all the new words and people and items, but that's not the case. Sure, there are times when I look at a word and completely forget what it means, but the situation always allows you to work out from the discussions or actions. The writing actually reminds me of A Game of Thrones. You can see that each chapter focuses on one character, and that makes all the characters really depth in a rather short space of time.
I'm definitely interested in seeing where it goes. Paul is a really interesting kid, and I'm intrigued by the mystery surrounding him. (Plus I really love his mother, Jessica)

Josh wrote: "I read Dune - the LOTR of sci-fi - recently and was floored by the accessible nature of an "alien" world where the centers of power and politics of the universe were fighting for control. The story..."
Well said, Josh.
Well said, Josh.

I got this from Wikipedia...
Herbert spent the next five years researching, writing, and revising a literary work that was eventually serialized in Analog magazine from 1963 to 1965 as two shorter works, Dune World and The Prophet of Dune.[8][9] Herbert dedicated his work "to the people whose labors go beyond ideas into the realm of 'real materials'—to the dry-land ecologists, wherever they may be, in whatever time they work, this effort at prediction is dedicated in humility and admiration." The serialized version was expanded, reworked, and submitted to more than twenty publishers, each of whom rejected it. The novel, Dune, was finally accepted and published by Chilton Books, a printing house better known for publishing auto repair manuals.
I am surprised to find it is that old. I read it in the summer of 1981, and it knocked my socks off. I agree with every word of Faye's excellent review. This is not so much a novel as an experience!
Herbert spent the next five years researching, writing, and revising a literary work that was eventually serialized in Analog magazine from 1963 to 1965 as two shorter works, Dune World and The Prophet of Dune.[8][9] Herbert dedicated his work "to the people whose labors go beyond ideas into the realm of 'real materials'—to the dry-land ecologists, wherever they may be, in whatever time they work, this effort at prediction is dedicated in humility and admiration." The serialized version was expanded, reworked, and submitted to more than twenty publishers, each of whom rejected it. The novel, Dune, was finally accepted and published by Chilton Books, a printing house better known for publishing auto repair manuals.
I am surprised to find it is that old. I read it in the summer of 1981, and it knocked my socks off. I agree with every word of Faye's excellent review. This is not so much a novel as an experience!


Laura, I think it definitely speeds up during the last 2 parts.
If anything, I think it speeds up too quickly in the last part, but that's just my opinion.
I hope you're enjoying it!
If anything, I think it speeds up too quickly in the last part, but that's just my opinion.
I hope you're enjoying it!
Books mentioned in this topic
A Game of Thrones (other topics)Dune (other topics)
The Handmaid’s Tale (other topics)
Authors mentioned in this topic
Frank Herbert (other topics)Margaret Atwood (other topics)
(The tie-break in the polls has lead to The Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood to be a buddy read this month, which can find here. I'd definitely recommend it!)