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I'm really not sure what I should think about the new movie "Colonia". On the one hand, I am very interested because I have read a lot about Chile's history and the experience of the Unidad Popular in Chile and the suffering of Chileans under the military dictatorship. But on the other hand, I am not sure if it is a good thing to tell this story in the context of a love story and an action thriller.It's a serious issue and Chileans had to suffer a lot under the dictatorship of Pinochet. So I ask myself if this movie will tell this truth in the proper manner. I don't think that a love story and an action thriller is the right mode to tell it. But maybe I am wrong and the movie is good anyway. I just have doubts because the sad story of Chile's dictatorship is mixed up with entertainment as love stories and action thrillers always are meant to be entertaining and not to tell historic truth. But I think I will watch the movie and give it a chance.
Pop culture dictatorship. If they made serious movies they wouldn't earn money! What's the point of art if you can't become rich thanks to it? ;)
Marc wrote: "I was just surfing around the Internet especially YouTube, beside watching the Superbowl obviously :D, and than I found that short but really great Interview from Emma at the Colonia Dignidad Premi..."Thank you very much for sharing this!
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It's so cool to actually hear her talking about something (not strange actually because she created the group xD) I'm being a part of!Thanks for posting the link Marc!
-Simon <3
Sascha wrote: "I'm really not sure what I should think about the new movie "Colonia". On the one hand, I am very interested because I have read a lot about Chile's history and the experience of the Unidad Popular..."They decided, as is often the case, to make the movie that they knew we would watch (rather than the one they only hoped we would)
GAAAAH, SHE'S SO LOVELY<3All the red carpet photos are beyond beautiful.
Joan wrote: "Sascha wrote: "I'm really not sure what I should think about the new movie "Colonia". On the one hand, I am very interested because I have read a lot about Chile's history and the experience of the..."You mean that they prefered to make a movie that will probably be a commercial success rather than taking the risk and making a movie that tells historic truth in a proper way and therefore maybe will fail to be a commercial success? Yeah, you could be right.
Sascha wrote: "Joan wrote: "Sascha wrote: "I'm really not sure what I should think about the new movie "Colonia". On the one hand, I am very interested because I have read a lot about Chile's history and the expe..."It wouldn't be news. It's a common practice.
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Ana wrote: "Oh, thanks for sharing the link! :) Added to my to-watch list!"it's short in length, but it's full of LOVELY.
They are too busy talking about her new boyfriend. Who cares about feminism if you can talk about that!
Such a delightful society this one... :)
Such a delightful society this one... :)
Elena wrote: "They are too busy talking about her new boyfriend. Who cares about feminism if you can talk about that! Such a delightful society this one... :)"
there's candids on them by dozens, and it's even on yahoo news, not to mention fansites
I hate when the journalists violate a actors private life. And of course 50% of that is a lie is like reading a daily prophet written by Rita Skeeter . Be careful what you read people .
Tbh, I LITERALLY DON'T CARE whom she is dating or if she rather stays single. Whether she has a boy-or a girlfriend is not what I'm interested in. I think that's private and she wants us to focus on other things she does. (Like founding a feministic book club or watching her movies, being on premieres).
Sascha wrote: "I'm really not sure what I should think about the new movie "Colonia". On the one hand, I am very interested because I have read a lot about Chile's history and the experience of the Unidad Popular..."At the premiere they said that the love story is made up, but that the other things happened to people there. I'm just afraid because it's only allowed for teens 16 years and older here in Austria. I normally watch only movies allowed for 12 years and older, alhough I'm 19. It just makes me wonder what is so bad/naughty/atrocious in this movie that it's rated this way.
Btw, there are more videos from here, also German language interviews with Daniel Brühl and some other people who participated in the movie.
I'm so looking forward to the 19th, premiere in Austria.
MeerderWörter wrote: "Sascha wrote: "I'm really not sure what I should think about the new movie "Colonia". On the one hand, I am very interested because I have read a lot about Chile's history and the experience of the..."Maybe the turture scenes are too graphic.
Maybe. I'm a bit afraid, I don't want my cutie to be tortured. If somebody wants me to translate them, feel free to ask.
MeerderWörter wrote: "Maybe. I'm a bit afraid, I don't want my cutie to be tortured. If somebody wants me to translate them, feel free to ask."
I'm refering to the tortures on Brühl's character. You can see in the trailer that he's naked and, in all Latin-american dictatorships, prisoners were striped before being tortured.
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I watched the video a few days ago with my mum, and we both agreed that it was amazing to hear Emma talk about it. <3 I also showed her the Instagram and explained all of this to her in more detail, so now I have a new reading recruit for us! Woohoo!
Well if I remembers correctly this "camp" was something between Auschwitz and Marlin Manson cult. So you can imagine.The people was torture , beaten , abuse etc. The television, telephones and calendars was banners. Residents worked wearing Bavarian peasant garb and sang German folk songs. Sex was banned, with some residents forced to take drugs to reduce their desires. Drugs were also administered as a form of sedation, mostly to young girls, but to males as well. Severe discipline in the forms of beatings and torture was commonplace
the residents were never allowed to leave the colony, and that they were strictly segregated by sex.
Schäfer he was the founder and first leader ("Permanent Uncle") of Colonia Dignidad and he had molested 26 children of the colony.
That what I remember from history.
So you see this can be very heavy movie.
Sascha wrote: "Joan wrote: "Sascha wrote: "I'm really not sure what I should think about the new movie "Colonia". On the one hand, I am very interested because I have read a lot about Chile's history and the expe..." [and] You mean that they prefered to make a movie that will probably be a commercial success rather than taking the risk and making a movie that tells historic truth in a proper way and therefore maybe will fail to be a commercial success? Yeah, you could be right.
Yes, but not just a commercial success; I meant more that it was [or will be] seen by a lot of people—a different kind of success. Because of this, the tragic story of Chilean history, of the Pinochet dictatorship, becomes known to many more people. The exposé. Some will be led to learn more of the truth, and they will read books which can give them a depth of understanding no movie could ever hope to muster
You must know, I do hope many would be so led
I never learned about the Colonia in History, so I'll definitely read books about it after watching the films.
MeerderWörter wrote: "I never learned about the Colonia in History, so I'll definitely read books about it after watching the films."As you speak German, I recommend you to read articles from the Lateinamerika Nachrichten: http://lateinamerika-nachrichten.de
Just type the words "Colonia Dignidad" into the search box and you will find lots of information.
Thank you, Sascha. Maybe we could open a single thread in which we discuss the Colonia Dignidad movie with Emma and the historic facts. Would be interesting, I think.
Thank you, Sascha. Maybe we could open a single thread in which we discuss the Colonia Dignidad movie with Emma and the historic facts. Would be interesting, I think.
Again, if somebody wants me to translate German/English, I'm eager to do so.
MeerderWörter wrote: "Thank you, Sascha. Maybe we could open a single thread in which we discuss the Colonia Dignidad movie with Emma and the historic facts. Would be interesting, I think.
Again, if somebody wants me..."
Hey MeerderWörter, I have found something for you:
https://amerika21.de/2016/02/143117/c...
It's a review of the movie and some background information which might interest anyone else who speaks German, too.
Sascha wrote: "MeerderWörter wrote: "Thank you, Sascha. Maybe we could open a single thread in which we discuss the Colonia Dignidad movie with Emma and the historic facts. Would be interesting, I think.
Again..."
yes please, translate.
Helen wrote: "Sascha wrote: "MeerderWörter wrote: "Thank you, Sascha. Maybe we could open a single thread in which we discuss the Colonia Dignidad movie with Emma and the historic facts. Would be interesting, ..."
Okay, Helen, I have translated most parts of the article. Here we go:
Movie about Colonia Dignidad starts in German cinemas
Director Gallenberger presents historic drama with detailed research. Complicity of Western German government is also portrayed.
By Harald Neuber, amerika21, 9.2.2016
For years, the victims of the Colonia Dignidad, a sect’s settlement in the south of Chile, are struggling for compensation and acknowledgement of their suffering. From 1961 until his detention in 2005, the nazi and lay preacher Paul Schäfer and his approximately 250 followers have built a terror regime sealed off behind barbed wire and set gun. Now the story will be told to a bigger audience when the movie starts in German cinemas next Thursday (18.2.).
The movie by Florian Gallenberger is 110 minutes long and full of detailed research. The director has investigated the history of the sect’s settlement in Chile for four years. In the movie, the complex horror and the many political scandals connected to it are embedded into a fictional plot with a love story between the Lufthansa stewardess Lena (Emma Watson) and the German activist Daniel (Daniel Brühl) who are caught by the sect after the coup d’etat on September 11, 1973. Gallenberger weaves this story into historic reality: the complicity of Western German and Chilean secret service agencies, of German diplomacy, of the CSU under Franz Josef Strauß, the violence, oppression, slave labor, child abuse, human experiments, torture and murder.
The issue is still relevant in Germany, too. Sect leader Schäfer has died in prison in 2010 but many alleged as well as convicted criminals from his surrounding could defect to Germany. The longstanding doctor of the sect, Hartmut Hopp was sentenced in Chile because of the aiding of sexual abuse of minors. He has defected to Germany in 2011 knowing that the government would not extradite him to Chile. He lives in Krefeld and could prevent the enforcement of the sentence until today.
The benefit of the movie is the detailed portrayal of Schäfer’s terror regime as well as the issue of the role of the German government and its embassador Erich Strätling who worked in Santiago de Chile from 1976 to 1979. Lotti Packmor who flew from the sect in 1985, reported about the Colonia Dignidad in a book: “I remember the visit of embassador Strätling. An orchestra has welcomed him in the hall which was decorated celebratory. The German national anthem was played and choirs sang.” Strätling visited the sect again one year later when Amnesty International had already pressed public charges in Germany. Strätling told the Foreign Ministry: “I didn’t find any underground torture facility.” The accusations against the sect’s settlement were “rumors and unproven claims”.
Florian Gallenberger portrays all these implications, too. “I wanted to take this story out of its darkness”, he told amerika21. “I think that the story is in parts much too scandalous, much too important and also much too up to date. So you can’t let it disappear in the quicksand of history. And of course the people who have suffered there of no fault of their own should get acknowledgement by telling their stories.”
Daniel Brühl told similar things to amerika21: … “I think the work starts only now.” When the Foreign Ministry would move in this issue and would at least finance a workshop for the victims then this would be a good signal. “But you have to hurry of course”, Brühl adds. “It’s like with all these nazis who die in these times. If you wait too long then there will come the day when there are no survivors.”
Thank you for the link. I'm busy the next days, but at friday anyone can send me something to translate.
In my noon breaks, where I'm happy to be thinking about something totally different than the usual in an old-people's home.I've found an interesting article about the Colonia. I'll translate it in the next few days.
I think it is so funny that we have to translate it back to English. Normally Emma's interviews can be read in English, so it's kinda new. Like: Emma gave the interview in the language everyone learns, the reporters translated it and now we have to translate it again.
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https://youtu.be/R5iL1255glE
Honestly I feld a bit proud after hearing that! Hope you guys felt the same way!!
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