Our Shared Shelf discussion

Hey guys,

I got some sad but maybe some good news to tell you.
Maybe some of you already read it, but I'm here to inform the other people:
Emma is going to stop acting for a year (or more) and I'm a bit sad about this because we can't watch new movies of her the following years :(
But... she's taking a break to focus more on her own business, like feminism for example! This probably means that she'll be more active on OSS (yieha!) and that we can expect more things from the HeforShe campaign than we already do!!

I'm very happy for her and I completly support her in her decision,
I hope you guys will also do that!

-Simon <3
Source: http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/...

Great decision! Maybe she will find the inspiration she needs in order to be herself! ;)

I support her decision. if she feels the need to slow down so she can focus on other aspects of her life that is her decision. Good for her :)

I didn't know that two was the definition of handful hahaha

Its a pity, for sure. But I think she will appear here and there in other projects and Events. And in order to work more for HeforShe or generally focus more on feminism its great and I´m looking forward to what will happen next!

Greets x

I'm so excited to see what comes along with HeForShe and the rest of her work during her acting hiatus!

Elena wrote: "Great decision! Maybe she will find the inspiration she needs in order to be herself! ;)"
Lets hope so :D

Amber wrote: "I support her decision. if she feels the need to slow down so she can focus on other aspects of her life that is her decision. Good for her :)"

Glad we agree in this :D

Kodak wrote: "Doesn't mean we won't see her in anything - at the most, 2017 will be more of a blank slate whilst she works on some projects.

But don't forget she has a handful of movies coming out this year. So..."

True that, and while it may not be in movies, I think we'll see her a lot toward the campaign she's been working on :D

Elena wrote: "I didn't know that two was the definition of handful hahaha"

xD

Marc wrote: "Its a pity, for sure. But I think she will appear here and there in other projects and Events. And in order to work more for HeforShe or generally focus more on feminism its great and I´m looking f..."

Like I said, I'm also looking forward to this and like Kodak said, its not like we won't see her in the coming year :)

Katelyn wrote: "I'm so excited to see what comes along with HeForShe and the rest of her work during her acting hiatus!"

Take OSS for example, in just one month she brought 100k feminists together! Now thats an accomplishment!

Me parece perfecto! Me emociona saber que va a hacer con ONU mujeres, ademas todos vamos a esperar el estreno de la Bella y La Bestia con mas ganas! Saludos a todos

I fully support Emma in all she does whether it be acting or something else. I think it is very commendable of her to take a break for a year to increase her knowledge of feminism and work on HeForShe. It shows her passion and dedication. I look forward HeForShe arts week and the University tour. I love Emma's acting and admire her talent but I'm not angry or all upset bc she's taking time off to pursue personal development. It's her life and I support her decision 100%. Fame and fortune aside, I have the utmost respect for Emma as a person and the work that she's doing to make the world a better place means so much more in the long run than acting.

FYI... Regression is playing now in US, Colonia release date in the US April 15th, The Circle (Fall 2016), and Beauty and the Beast (March 2017). Saw Regression and I look forward to seeing the rest of Emma's work.

She could be pregnant

Franklin wrote: "She could be pregnant"

*raises eyebrow with annoyance*

Hallie wrote: "Franklin wrote: "She could be pregnant"

*raises eyebrow with annoyance*"

*also raises eyebrow with annoyance*
Lol, seriously. That's so rude to enquire into. It's none of our business.

Kodak wrote: "Speculating is what causes the rumour mill ;) she's lucky to be in a position to be able to afford a year out - I want to go on a field trip!! :'D"

Now there's a euphoric idea for a project: an Our Shared Shelf field trip :'O

Would be great for that global meetup plan; gather all the OSS members in your country/region and travel to the meetup together, maybe even catch up with groups from other places while you're on the way. ^_^

Tim wrote: "Would be great for that global meetup plan; gather all the OSS members in your country/region and travel to the meetup together, maybe even catch up with groups from other places while you're on th..."

yeah

Franklin wrote: "She could be pregnant"

she'll get married first.

Franklin wrote: "She could be pregnant"

My personal theory is that Allah talked to her and she's secretly moving to Syria in order to join the Jihad... Hey, you'll say it's unlikely but respect my idea!

Elena wrote: "Franklin wrote: "She could be pregnant"

My personal theory is that Allah talked to her and she's secretly moving to Syria in order to join the Jihad... Hey, you'll say it's unlikely but respect my..."

at least I can't say for the life of me that you aren't imaginative.

I totally support her decision, because... it's her life, she may do with it, whatever she wishes to do with it.

Regression aired in October in Austria here and I've seen Colonia yesterday (truly amazing movie, though you should take into consideration that only 16-year-old's and older folks are allowed to watch it in Austria. In one part you have to be 18, even.)

I think, when you remember earlier interviews, she said that she wanted to do a lot of things. Painting or writing for instance. She can focus on her yoga education more and get even more involved in feminism and HeforShe and I am sure that we can expect great stuff from her. And even if she does not a lot for the public, she deserves a year off acting.

I don't think she's joining Jihad (are you serious?), that's the exact opposite of what she stands for. And I don't think she's pregnant either, I would have stopped acting for more than one year would I be planning to get pregnant or be pregnant. It could be though, you know, it is a possibility, but I don't think so. And I don't think she's the kind of woman who gets married first. But of course, I could be wrong.

Maybe it is also a very private reason why she chose to do so, but in this case, I think we're not entitled to know. (Which doesn't bother me.)

Not sure that speculating about why she's taking time off is respectful of productive. Why can't we take her at her word? Pursuing her interest in activism and learning more about the cause in order to better support it sound like perfectly good and productive reasons to take time off.

Maybe she's pregnant, maybe every woman in the world of reproductive age is pregnant! Who are you, Franklin, the CDC? "Women should stop drinking alcohol immediately, all of them, because they miiiiiiight be pregnant." I'll say what I said about the CDC: stop speculating about women's reproductive health and lives, mind your own business, and realize that women make plenty of decisions that have nothing to do with men or reproduction.

Katelyn wrote: "Not sure that speculating about why she's taking time off is respectful of productive. Why can't we take her at her word? Pursuing her interest in activism and learning more about the cause in orde..."

Took the words out of my mouth!

MeerderWörter wrote: "I totally support her decision, because... it's her life, she may do with it, whatever she wishes to do with it.

Regression aired in October in Austria here and I've seen Colonia yesterday (truly ..."

Hey, when you become a member of the UN your moral duty is to respect all ideologies equally. You have to worry about everybody in the world at the same rate, so... Why not? It's just my opinion anyway!

Katelyn wrote: "Not sure that speculating about why she's taking time off is respectful of productive. Why can't we take her at her word? Pursuing her interest in activism and learning more about the cause in orde..."

You're right, Katelyn. I just wanted to tell the two that they were not very respectful to Emma and that they lack logic in some ways. Maybe I chose not the best way to do so. I am sorry for that, because I do not speculate because I am not interested in her private life. It is private and we should respect that. Since she has given us information why she stops acting for a year, there is no need to speculate either.

@Elena:
I know that you have to respect one another's opinion. But respecting one's opinion doesn't mean you have to join them in whatever they do-

MeerderWörter wrote: "Katelyn wrote: "Not sure that speculating about why she's taking time off is respectful of productive. Why can't we take her at her word? Pursuing her interest in activism and learning more about t..."

No worries, I was mostly responding to Franklin ;)

Katelyn wrote: "Not sure that speculating about why she's taking time off is respectful of productive. Why can't we take her at her word? Pursuing her interest in activism and learning more about the cause in orde..."

Completly agree with you!
Does it really matter why she's taking a break from acting for a year? Emma is old enough to make her own decisions and she's also wise enough to know what's the best for her!
- I'm also very happy that she made this decision btw :D

I'm glad Emma made this decision, too! I think if it's something she has to do for herself, she should do it. She's already made such a huge difference in the world already, so now she can do even more!

She has the right to stop actig for a year if she wants, she deserves to take a break, and as you said, she will focus on other things like feminism and probably personal relationships. Or simply have a rest, who knows?

I'm glad with any decisions she makes because she is doing what's best for her. It's an admirable thing, especially since she probably has so many opinions flying at her. It makes me excited to see what she'll do with her extra time! I really hope we see more of her on here! Also, I have a sneaking suspicion she has some amazing projects up her sleeve...we'll still be seeing her around - she isn't dropping off the face of the Earth!

It's alright. It's only a year. There was no (or more) in the article. Her activism will keep her visible. I'm glad she decided against going back to school. There's three kinds of practice.
1) Innate practice: practice by doing
2)Inspired practice: practice brought on by inspiration
3)Developmental practice: what we normally consider practice (classes)
Of these three, Innate practice is the most important. There comes a time when you have to stop being a student and live.

Jason, that's a bit reductive. What may be boring to you is not necessarily boring to others. Plus, I don't think you can just break it all down into three categories like that. Those who pursue graduate studies and careers in academia have contributed a great deal, and by no means is this trajectory mutually exclusive with "living." How do you define "living," anyway? There is no monolithic experience, and no one experience is greater than another.

That all being said, most gender studies are very rigorous and provide very limited time for outside projects, so it would likely be difficult for Emma to do this and maintain her position as Goodwill Ambassador with the UN. I may be generalizing, though. I think it would be useful and worthwhile for her (or anyone) to pursue the academic route, but her choice to pursue activism through her current position and work is equally valid!

Jason wrote: "It's alright. It's only a year. There was no (or more) in the article. Her activism will keep her visible. I think it's good that she's expanding her mind. Skip post graduate studies though. There'..."

I get what you are saying. I know that you mean "live" as actually meaning "being active and doing". Instead of it just being more of a thought process. I believe she is an ambitious person and will always be active in any of her passions. That's just my view.

There's nothing they can teach in three more years of drudgery that she can't learn independently. Quicker and probably more enjoyable. But that's coming from someone who hated his school experience and only started really learning independently.

Kodak wrote: "Who would voluntarily go back to a dead end job instead of going to schooling? I did to get a decent career, and I'm in my second year of my degree, and have already had job offers for when I leave..."

Many people would go back to a job that pays them if they have to pay for a roof over their head or put food in their families bellies. I don't think it's right to judge someone for their choice of going back to school or not. Not everyone has that opportunity. Sometimes the parent has to work and the middle school aged child has to stay home instead of going to school to watch their sick sibling because the childcare provider has a policy of no sick children in the center. There are many different situations to look at and each of them very individualized.

I guess what my point is to give across is try to look at other perspectives. There is no easy answer.

Kodak wrote: "Jason wrote: "I believe that real learning comes from life experience and reading. After all, that's all you do in school isn't it? Read from text books. Learning is much better done in one's own t..."

Uuuugh you need people to tell you what to do? You made me cry...

Kodak wrote: "Hush you ;) not all the time, I was relatively well educated, but not ashamed to say I need some advice and help. Otherwise, how will I learn?

(She says, remembering she needs to get back to that ..."

Sure sure... You've said what you've said, don't change it now.

Jason wrote: "There's nothing they can teach in three more years of drudgery that she can't learn independently on her own. She said as much in the interview although there's another in badly translated english ..."

I would disagree, though. Certainly school is not for everyone, and what i meant in my previous post is that we can't reduce the choices and experiences people undertake to only three categories. Most activities and choices wouldn't be classifiable as one and not another, anyway.

There are a lot of things that one learns in a rigorous academic course that are not learnable independently, just as there are a lot of things that you learn through experience and travel that are not learnable in the classroom, as Gloria Steinem discusses in My Life On The Road.

It is also possible to combine these approaches. One need not be an "armchair academic," as they say, in order to pursue that field. It's generally frowned upon these days, actually.

Anyway, my point is that you cannot make a blanket claim that one type of lived experience is more valuable than another, or that one is more boring than the other. Everyone is going to feel differently about these things and will benefit from different opportunities.

"There are a lot of things that one learns in a rigorous academic course that are not learnable independently."
THIS is not one of those things. You're talking surgery, chemistry, practical things. Ideology is book learning. No school needed.

I hate school/university, too. Couldn't bear it and left. It's a brick factory most of the times. But that doesn't mean everybody should study at home. Maybe improve school system.

It has its good things and it can be beneficial for some people. It's not only about theory learning. You develop other skills as well, when you are part of a collective.

Thanks everyone for participating in this topic!
Always good to read other peoples opinions about this news.
- Reading all your comments, it's always fun to see the subject of a thread changing trough out the discussion xD

-Simon <3

Also guys, everyone may have his own opinion, but please (not just in this case) try to not"offend" other people. I sometimes cringe of these comments :3

Jason wrote: ""There are a lot of things that one learns in a rigorous academic course that are not learnable independently."
THIS is not one of those things. You're talking surgery, chemistry, practical things...."

I still disagree. You are completely discounting the humanities, which are equally as important and "practical" as medicine, law, and other field and trades.

There is absolutely a difference between activism and academia. But like I said, it is possible to do both. It is also possible to apply academic critical theory to activism.

Simon wrote: "Also guys, everyone may have his own opinion, but please (not just in this case) try to not"offend" other people. I sometimes cringe of these comments :3 "

Agreed!

Kodak wrote: "I think what I originally said was taken out of context :( have edited to clarify.

(Sorry if it was!!)"

Good girl. It's your duty to give us explanations if we don't make the effort to understand what you say. I'm glad you've noticed it!

Good luck working in a position, which requires a PhD certificate, after self-studies. I'm learning a lot on my own, too, but if formal training is needed later, then so be it. Sounded a tad too uni shaming earlier in the thread...

Aglaea wrote: "Good luck working in a position, which requires a PhD certificate, after self-studies. I'm learning a lot on my own, too, but if formal training is needed later, then so be it. Sounded a tad too un..."

Is a PhD certificate the same as a diploma or degree? Another name for the same thing, perhaps?

Anyway, I agree with you, just curious if it's different terminology or a different thing entirely.

In graduate studies here (USA), we have a few different kinds, including master's, PhD, graduate certificate, etc. Grad certificate is usually a sort of condensed track of study that does not require as many credits or as large a dissertation project as the PhD. So the combo of "PhD" and "certificate" to me is confusing!

Katelyn wrote: "Aglaea wrote: "Good luck working in a position, which requires a PhD certificate, after self-studies. I'm learning a lot on my own, too, but if formal training is needed later, then so be it. Sound..."

I'm talking about the piece of paper that shows you have your PhD over and done with.