Obsessed with True Crime discussion

I read about an Indiana case in Wensley Clarkson's Deadly Seduction of a man who kept a corpse in a sleeping bag to have sex with. I could not help wishing Clarkson would write a whole book about that deal. Hoping to find more on this, I Googled and didn't find him, but check these out:

http://elitedaily.com/life/people-who...

Only one of them, Carl Tanzler, has been immortalized in print as far as I know. See Undying Love: The True Story Of A Passion That Defied Death.

Has anyone seen other cases they would like to read a whole book about?

Do you know if there is a book devoted to "Harvey Glatman", I know I have read about him in other books, but don't believe I have read a book about just him.

Lady♥Belleza★✰ wrote: "Do you know if there is a book devoted to "Harvey Glatman", I know I have read about him in other books, but don't believe I have read a book about just him."

The only whole book about Harv that I know of is Michael Newton's Rope: The Twisted Life and Crimes of Harvey Glatman.

Fishface wrote: "I read about an Indiana case in Wensley Clarkson's Deadly Seduction of a man who kept a corpse in a sleeping bag to have sex with. I could not help wishing Clarkson would write a who..."

Not sure if anyone else has read "Undying Love" mentioned above. Good book but weird!!! That guy was strange!!

I read that one years ago. He was a real piece of work.

Is there a book specifically about Lawrence Bittaker and Roy Norris? It's a twisted series of crimes but I have only read bits and pieces about them.

Lee wrote: "Is there a book specifically about Lawrence Bittaker and Roy Norris? It's a twisted series of crimes but I have only read bits and pieces about them."
Lee, I have yet to find one.

I would really love to read a whole book on the case of Raymond Kuchenmeister.

I want to see books on "Opie" Armstrong and Tony Walker. A whole book on Clarence Walker would be great. And why not a book on Les Williams?

This:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/inside-th...

1.Ray Garton: A horror fiction writer who wrote "In a dark place" a FICTIONAL }"true story" biography about the "A Haunting in Connecticut." Ray said the Snedekers were total frauds. Said he told Ed and Lorraine Warren he was having trouble writing the book and Ed told him "They are crazy. All the people who come to us are crazy" and told him to to just make up his own claims and make sure the book was scary. I would LOVE to read a true account of his interaction. He said the whole idea makes his head hurt. Too bad.

2.James Huberty. On July 18th 1984 he walked into a Mcdonalds and shot and killed 21 people. Lots of information on the case, but has never had a book written solely on the case.

3.Robert Hawkins: On December 5th 2007 he walked into a mall and shot at Christmas shoppers killing 8 people. Very interesting case. I would love a detailed account on the case.

4.Anatoly Slivko: Several books have been written on Andrei Chikatilo. Of course Chikatilo is one of my favorite cases but Anatoly Slivko needs a book. The case is just as important and interesting and Slivko was interviewed by the investigators to get into Chikatilo's mind and come up with a profile.

Like Ted Bundy being interviewed by the investigators tracking Gary Ridgeway. Bundy called him "The river man."

Those are just some cases.

I would also love a professional dedicated book about Lawrence Bittaker and Roy Norris.

The only book I know of that is dedicated to the case is Murder Mac by a "friend" of mine. I talked to him a few times. He's a true crime collector who owns a ton of true crime documents, serial killer art work, etc.

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/murd...

I hope to one day buy this book in paperback form but I don't know if I will. I've tried to get back in contact with the author to ask him about it but I havent been able to.

He's a cool guy.

He was in the awesome true crime documentary Serial killer culture. One of my all time favorite true crime documentaries.

It's about artist and collectors.
They interview the metal band "Macabre"
I've been a fan of them before the movie came out.
They interview a women who does a Dahmer tour.
They interview artist who draw art work centered around serial killers. Interview those who collect artifacts, etc.

There is another great documentary called "collectors" which is strictly about true crime collectors. Sadly one of the collectors later committed suicide.

I decided to look into what happened to him since the film and found he drowned him self in a lake.

Rick who was Gacy's main art dealer and is in both films and has an awesome collection later went on to help find new evidence in the Dean Corll case.

http://images2.houstonpress.com/image...

A newly discovered victim was found but no one has identified him yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Sg85...
Serial killer culture trailer.

You can watch Collectors for free.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TOrS...

I couldn't find any reference to a book called MURDER MAC on any subject, let alone one dedicated to Bittaker and Norris. Did your friend self-publish?

I followed the link which led to the Nook version which I am hesitant to buy without finding the book elsewhere

That lets me out. I sure don't have a Nook.

Found this, though - should probably add it to the 'Songs about TC' thread.

http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?i...

"Did your friend self-publish? "

Yeah, he did.

I looked through a preview. He has a childhood photo of Bittaker with his sisters when he was like....7 years old?

http://www.lulu.com/shop/joe-hiles/mu...

Ebook version.

I prefer paper.

I refer to him as a "friend" in quotes because we only talked a few times and he told me what he owned in terms of books and artifacts.

Speaking of which....
https://www.amazon.com/13-Twelve-Juro...

There is a pretty unknown book about Tommy Lynn Sells.
All told from his perspective. Want a glimpse into Sells's murders and twisted thought process? Read that. It is expensive.

As for that song about Bittaker and Norris.
I have that song and I listen to it every Halloween after I get finished watching my Halloween marathon.

Every year from September - October 31st I watch a ton of horror movies. Usually 2 or 3 movies in one day each day. Along with halloween specials from my childhood and some recent ones.

They got other songs like "Something blue" about Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-XkZ...
They also have this song about Andrei Chikatilo.

My "friend" was also on hypocrite John Walsh's talk show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPiLy...

John Walsh was a co-owner of The crime and punishment museum. A museum where you can pay $19.99 to view Gacy's clown suit and make up, Ted Bundy's VW, and a host of other true crime artifacts. Those items [Bundy's car, Gacy's clown items] were sold to the museum for thousands of dollars ["Blood money"] by true crime collector Johnathan Davis. The lead singer of Korn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW2sm...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJYP0...

So basically, it's okay for John Walsh to make THOUSANDS of dollars off these artifacts, but if Joe buys it and puts it online for free, or simply owns it and puts it on his wall for his own personal enjoyment then he is a vile horrible person who is a danger to others.

Just keep that hypocricy in mind while watching that.

Joe's website was hacked 3 times and is off line.
Walsh's museum got in legal trouble because the Gacy items were STOLEN from the evidence locker and the museum shut down.
I clapped and laughed when it shut down.

chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/02/10/2-inv...

"Gacy’s clown suits should be in a locked facility with other evidence from this case. But the costumes he used to transform into Pogo and Patches the clowns, instead ended up becoming a money-maker for someone."

"Even though they were collected as evidence and inventoried in his case, Gacy’s clown suits, the red one and his other one, ended up at the National Crime Museum in Washington DC. But, how did they get there?" Got to love those quotes.

http://www.crimemuseum.org/
"THE WASHINGTON, DC CRIME MUSEUM IS NOW PERMANENTLY CLOSED:"

Good riddance I say.

Go to the museum of death in California instead.

Just want to add that I am giving you this infor as a potential buyer. I personally have no problem with true crime artifact collecting. So I have no "moral" problem with buying his book.

Just trying to be honest and educate on true crime history.

There is a separate discussion where we discuss songs written about true crimes: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...

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