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message 1: by Ripley (new)

Ripley Franks | 10 comments I've made so many different book covers for a short story thriller I recently completed . Everything I made was SUPER bland and wasn't very appealing. Although my final cover is a bit dull it really stands out to me, I just like it! It's nothing fancy, nor is it anything to brag about.
So with out further ado, here it is!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzSh...

Like I said, it's nothing to brag about. Any comments are appreciated and I would love to hear what you think of it. I've only shown this cover to a couple of people and they both said it made them feel uneasy. I like that it made them feel like this (not because I'm creepy or anything ha-ha) and that they were totally upfront with their opinion. Thanks for viewing!


message 2: by G.G. (new)

G.G. (ggatcheson) | 2491 comments It's requesting permission to see it, Ripley.


message 3: by Ripley (new)

Ripley Franks | 10 comments Whoops! How embarrassing! If that link still doesn't work, here's another.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzSh...


message 4: by Christina (new)

Christina McMullen (cmcmullen) I like it! I don't get an uneasy vibe, but it seems a little quirky spooky, if that makes any sense.


message 5: by G.G. (new)

G.G. (ggatcheson) | 2491 comments Oh intriguing! It would certainly make me pick up the book and check what it's about. :)


message 6: by Joe (new)

Joe Jackson (shoelessauthor) Simple yet effective.


message 7: by Heidi (new)

Heidi Angell (heidiangell) | 241 comments Wow, I like the cover! It has a sort of Donnie Darko feel to it. Very cool!


message 8: by Ripley (new)

Ripley Franks | 10 comments Thank you Christina, G.G., Joe, and Heidi!
Now that you mention it, Heidi, I am getting a Donnie Darko vibe by it!
Thanks for the kind words! Just when I thought I had to redo the cover again!


message 9: by Marie Silk (new)

Marie Silk | 611 comments The image is pretty cool/creepy :) If it was me, I might play with the title font to get it to match the mood of the book.


message 10: by Ian (new)

Ian Bott (iansbott) | 269 comments Marie wrote: "The image is pretty cool/creepy :) If it was me, I might play with the title font to get it to match the mood of the book."

Yes, that was my immediate thought too. Good image, but the font lets it down overall. Too standard and plain.

I can't advise much because fonts are one of my real weak areas, but I just recently saw an article by a cover designer and one of the examples was Jurassic Park. That cover has some stylistic similarities - very simple black & white graphic - and the font was also simple but also not something you'd see inside the book. That's the best way I can explain my gut feeling - needs to be a title font, not a text font. You might also try experimenting with a few colors, e.g. red or gold.


message 11: by Martin (new)

Martin Wilsey | 447 comments What's the story about?

Is it a classic romance? If so the cover may not work... ;)


message 12: by J.J. (new)

J.J. Mainor Ian wrote: "Marie wrote: "The image is pretty cool/creepy :) If it was me, I might play with the title font to get it to match the mood of the book."

Yes, that was my immediate thought too. Good image, but th..."


Was thinking the same. The font works for the Author's name, but it's a little dull for the title. Otherwise, that is one cool image.


message 13: by Justin (new)

Justin (justinbienvenue) | 790 comments I agree with Christina, it's quirky spooky. It also comes of as sort of animated. I would also agree the font needs to stand out more and perhaps tie along and connect to the creepy effect your giving off with the image.


T. K. Elliott (Tiffany) (t_k_elliott) I like the black and white. If you're doing your own cover, it's a good idea to stay simple - make a statement out of a necessity, as it were. And black and white never goes out of style!

Consider swapping the title and author name to capitals, and increasing the size and centre-justifying the author name.

I see a lot of self-published novels with the author's name in tiny font in the bottom right-hand corner (as if it's trying to hide), whereas traditionally published novels have the author's name in big letters, centre-justified. Is there some kind of union rule that you're only allowed to use the middle if you've got a publishing contract?


message 15: by M.L. (new)

M.L. | 1129 comments I like it! It dares the reader to explore, read the blurb, look inside; dark humor awaits. :-)


message 16: by Ann (new)

Ann Otto | 3 comments Not my genre, but my adult children would like it. Reminds me of some Tim Burton films.


message 17: by Ripley (new)

Ripley Franks | 10 comments Martin wrote: "What's the story about?

Is it a classic romance? If so the cover may not work... ;)"


It's a thriller about a cartoon animator who begins to hear a faint voice inside his head. At first he brushes it off thinking that he's stressed or tired. Only after that the voice gets louder and even refers to the main character by his real name.
Although I think it would have been a little more interesting if I had made it a classic romance instead :)


message 18: by Christina (last edited Mar 20, 2016 03:04PM) (new)

Christina McMullen (cmcmullen) T. K. Elliott wrote: "I see a lot of self-published novels with the author's name in tiny font in the bottom right-hand corner (as if it's trying to hide), whereas traditionally published novels have the author's name in big letters, centre-justified. Is there some kind of union rule that you're only allowed to use the middle if you've got a publishing contract?"

You'll notice that there is no set rule as to where an author's name should be, either with trads or indies. But yes, those centered, top half the cover names are well established brands like Danielle Steele or Stephen King. The idea is that you need to see the name from across the grocery store.


message 19: by Shannon (new)

Shannon Maguire | 35 comments I like it. It's creepy. I also agree with what was said earlier about the font not matching the style. Here are some free font sites where you might be able to find something more interesting than what's installed on your computer. Make sure to pay attention to the top right corner of each font where it lists whether it's completely free, free for personal use, etc. If you don't know how to install fonts, visit the FAQ page for the first site below here http://www.1001freefonts.com/faq.php

http://www.1001freefonts.com/
http://www.dafont.com/


message 20: by T.A. (new)

T.A. (tahernandez) I love the cover image! It definitely gives off an unsettling vibe, which I think is perfect based on your description of the story. However, as others have said, the font doesn't really seem suitable. Fonts are definitely not my strong suit so I'll just add another font resource to Shannon's list if you're looking for some good free for commercial use fonts: http://www.fontsquirrel.com/


message 21: by Ripley (new)

Ripley Franks | 10 comments Thanks for providing those font sites! I appreciate all the support and helpful input given so far! I've been playing around with different cover designs and even ordered a few proof copies to see what it would look like in person.
I have to agree that the font I used originally was a bit dull and didn't fit well with the cover image and story.
Here's my most recent design after the font change.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzSh...


I'd like to make a few more after looking deeper into those sites!


message 22: by Christina (new)

Christina McMullen (cmcmullen) Hmm... The new font might be a bit *too* whimsical. Maybe try to find a medium between sinister and cartoonish, like your image. I'll second font squirrel as a fantastic resource. The licensing information is easy to find and read.


message 23: by G.G. (new)

G.G. (ggatcheson) | 2491 comments I agree with Christina. Besides, your title went from being easy to see (big letters) to harder to see (small letters).


message 24: by Marie Silk (new)

Marie Silk | 611 comments I like it! Your story sounds interesting too :)


message 25: by M.L. (new)

M.L. | 1129 comments That really changed the feel ... It's more, Mr. Rogers' evil twin took over the Neighborhood. Could be more scary, or less, depending. :-)


message 26: by Gippy (new)

Gippy Adams | 99 comments I like the cover, especially with the story you have written. I agree with the font change. A few suggestions, if you have these fonts, would be: Chiller (which I believe the artist used on my cover, but enlarged the font size because Chiller is rather small). Then two other similar ones would be Viner Hand ITC, which is rather creepy, and Bradley Hand ITC. I hope this helps, and I wish you well.


message 27: by Shannon (new)

Shannon Maguire | 35 comments I think the font's still not right and I find it's a bit too close to the image now.


message 28: by Ripley (new)

Ripley Franks | 10 comments M.L. wrote: "That really changed the feel ... It's more, Mr. Rogers' evil twin took over the Neighborhood. Could be more scary, or less, depending. :-)"

That was the best description of anything I've ever heard! Ha-ha but really, thank you for your input :)

Marie wrote: "I like it! Your story sounds interesting too :)"

Thank you!

Thanks again for all the advice, everyone! You've all been a big help, I really appreciate it!


message 29: by Marie Silk (new)

Marie Silk | 611 comments Just wanted to share a reason that you will want big giant letters for title and author...I have just seen my new ebook for the first time on my samsung galaxy. At the bottom of the screen, it shows "recommendations" and such, and I realized how small the covers appear for ebook readers who are browsing. This means that if your title is small on your cover, it might be very difficult to see what the book is called when reading from a tablet or mobile device, which may lead to less interest in clicking on it. Hope this helps :).


message 30: by Ripley (new)

Ripley Franks | 10 comments Marie wrote: "Just wanted to share a reason that you will want big giant letters for title and author...I have just seen my new ebook for the first time on my samsung galaxy. At the bottom of the screen, it show..."

I didn't even think of that! I've played around with the size and font of the title for the past few days and everything has become much bigger. Thank you! :)


message 31: by Ann (new)

Ann Wright | 88 comments I've had a look at both your font images and I think it still not working right. I think Fontsquirrel is about the best site for fonts as you can specify that you want a Display font, which is essential for a book cover. If you've not tried it, you can do a test run of your title on the website, which helps a lot. Also, have a look at Cover Design Studio which has excellent tips on how the layout should work.
http://www.coverdesignstudio.com/copy...
Good spooky image though! It just needs big powerful text.


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