Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
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I've always wondered something and can't remember it ever getting explained in the series. So to teach Harry how to fight dementors with the Patronus Charm Lupin uses a boggart because he knows it will take the shape of a dementor when it sees Harry. Now my problem is that when it transforms it has the exact same effect on Harry that a real dementor does, and Lupin even gives Harry chocolate after the lesson which is used to reverse the symptoms that come from being in close proximity to a dementor. Does that mean that the boggart gains the abilities of whatever form it takes? Earlier in the book Ron made a boggart transform into a giant spider lile Aragog, which is extrememly venomous. If it had bitten a student would that student have been injected with venom? Also Neville turns the boggart into Professor Snape, who draws his wand. What that made me think was if Harry had turned the boggart into Voldemort like Lupin had feared would it have been able to draw a wand and throw a killing curse at someone? Also one more thing, the boggart became a full moon for Lupin, and if the boggart has all the ability of whatever it becomes like with the dementor shouldn't that have forced Lupin to transform? Somebody help me out here because this has bugged me since high school and if Rowling explains it somewhere down the line and I missed it I really would like to know.
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Good question!
I did some research, and found this:
http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Bog...
Hope it helps :)
I did some research, and found this:
Boggarts sometimes do not have the same strength or magic as what they imitate, for example, a Boggart transformed into a Dementor has weaker magic than a real Dementor, according to Lupin, or having a deadly scream as a true Banshee, which would otherwise have slaughtered the entire class. This was partly why he chose to simulate a Dementor attack in Harry's presence to help him perfect the use of the Patronus Charm.
http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Bog...
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I think Renee is right about this. I think that the boggart may have some of the powers of whatever it's pretending to be.
At the same time, I think that those powers are mainly attributes of the thing- like, the dementor has to exert that fear/cold or else you wouldn't be fooled. The spider would have to have poison or else it would resemble the real spider.
That said, once those attributes were on the boggart, I don't think the boggart would be able to ACT exactly like what it imitated. In the 4th one, the demontorboggart stumbled, which dementors never do.
So my thought is that even though Snape raised his wand and looked like he was going to curse Neville, I don't think the boggart could have done it. The boggart wants to scare the person away, right? Not kill them, I'm pretty sure. The boggart would have no reason to curse Neville, especially since Neville is stronger than the boggart and could probably destroy it. No, I think the boggart does what is has to to scare the person, but it isn't powerful enough to curse anyone or such out anyone's soul (if it was a dementor).
At the same time, I think that those powers are mainly attributes of the thing- like, the dementor has to exert that fear/cold or else you wouldn't be fooled. The spider would have to have poison or else it would resemble the real spider.
That said, once those attributes were on the boggart, I don't think the boggart would be able to ACT exactly like what it imitated. In the 4th one, the demontorboggart stumbled, which dementors never do.
So my thought is that even though Snape raised his wand and looked like he was going to curse Neville, I don't think the boggart could have done it. The boggart wants to scare the person away, right? Not kill them, I'm pretty sure. The boggart would have no reason to curse Neville, especially since Neville is stronger than the boggart and could probably destroy it. No, I think the boggart does what is has to to scare the person, but it isn't powerful enough to curse anyone or such out anyone's soul (if it was a dementor).
Huh. I never thought about it! What if Harry fears the affects of the dementor rather than the dementor itself? I'm sure Ron was scared of the venom in the spider but in book 2(?) he says he just doesn't like the way they move. as for Neville, I don't know but Snape never actually cursed or tried to harm him. Lupin's moon I think was supposed to remind him that on the full moon he was going to transform alone without his friends.
Remember that the boggart feeds off fear, the fear of what would happen if the spider strikes, Snape curses, ect. If the boggart actually did anything that would kill the person then they wouldn't have fear. If the dementor sucked out Harry's soul then he would still be alive but...
Hopefully I cleared up some stuff but the odds are I didn't
Remember that the boggart feeds off fear, the fear of what would happen if the spider strikes, Snape curses, ect. If the boggart actually did anything that would kill the person then they wouldn't have fear. If the dementor sucked out Harry's soul then he would still be alive but...
Hopefully I cleared up some stuff but the odds are I didn't
I've never thought about it before, but after reading your question I just can't quit thinking about it. I am thinking that the Boggart "drill", if you will, is designed to get you ready for what would happen when and if you encounter that thing in "real" life. So, when Harry's Boggart takes the shape of the Dementor it also instills fear and sucks happiness out of him like real one does so when training you can have the most real like environment to better prepare yourself. If you trained in an environment that didn't assimilate the reality of what it would really be like then how prepared can you really be? It's not a real Dementor but a "mock" Dementor. It's life like but not real in the sense that it can hurt you/kill you.....or can it? We may never know.
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