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message 1: by Feliks, Moderator (last edited May 23, 2016 08:36AM) (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 1257 comments Mod
Name some clever border crossings from various fiction books or movies you've absorbed over the years. I want to hear your musings on surreptitious ways to slip in and out of countries and nations. Would you hire a Cessna and try to low-fly under the air defenses and radar installations? Would you acquire a rubber dingy and row your way in? Would you bluff your way past Customs with forged docs, or would you find some wetback to lead you through a remote desert arroyo on foot?

I guess what I'm looking for (rather than 'border crossing') is something more in the way of 'insertions'. In WWII, you had a lot of resources and usually parachute insertion was the way of it.

In the Humphey Bogart comedy, 'Beat the Devil'--a bunch of fumbling boobs stride ashore a North-African country and when they see arab horsemen approaching, they bury their passports (to their later discomfort). How --in modern times--do you completely circumnavigate coastal defenses and enter a foreign land?


message 2: by [deleted user] (last edited May 23, 2016 07:30AM) (new)

To infiltrate an island, then a drop off by submarine and rubber boat or mini submarine at night in some isolated bay or cove is probably the safest. However, make sure that you can change once on the beach with fresh clothes sealed in a plastic bag, so that you don't stink of diesel fumes (something that cost dearly a few Nazi infiltrators dropped off by submarines on the coasts of Canada and the USA). These days, air defense systems make parachute insertions quite risky, unless you have a stealthy transport plane.

Entering through normal entry points while using a fake identity also works well generally, if your false documents are well made and if you don't make the mistake of using the same set of false documents over and over. The Euro Zone, with its open borders and lax internal checks, makes that method quite useful. On the other hand, good luck on illegally entering North Korea.


message 3: by Feliks, Moderator (last edited May 23, 2016 08:37AM) (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 1257 comments Mod
Thanks! That's what Ah'm lookin' fer. I'm gonna restart the thread if you guys don't mind. I wanna keep on the right track. This is actually helping me with one of my writing projects, by the by....


message 4: by Roger (new)

Roger Cave | 47 comments Feliks

It depends where you're trying to get in to.

For Turkey, go through the Island of Rhodes, for example. For the rest of Europe it's pretty simple with it's open borders.

Funny, I've been researching the Seal Delivery Vehicle for one of my projects. The SBS also use something called an VSV for fast insertions.


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