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message 1: by John (new)

John Seymour 4. Discuss the plot:
• Is it engaging—do you find the story interesting?
• Is this a plot-driven book—a fast-paced page-turner?
• Does the plot unfold slowly with a focus on character?
• Were you surprised by complications, twists & turns?
• Did you find the plot predictable, even formulaic?


message 2: by John (new)

John Seymour Plot? There's a plot? Why didn't anyone tell me?


message 3: by Patrick (new)

Patrick Robitaille | 1602 comments Mod
The houses of Ning-guo and Rong-guo are continuing their slow decaying progress, both financially and on a human perspective. The number of maids is being culled; many of the characters die, especially Dai-yu; Bao-yu loses his marbles; Xi-feng is repeatedly sick. With such a bevy of characters, it is easy to lose its way through the many sub-plots inhabiting this story.


message 4: by John (new)

John Seymour Patrick wrote: "With such a bevy of characters, it is easy to lose its way through the many sub-plots inhabiting this story."

Good point - lots and lots of subplots - Is there a main plot?


message 5: by [deleted user] (new)

I think the main plot will be revealed in the last volume and I am personally hoping Bao-Yu and Dai-Yu find each other again and stop making everyone else miserable.

Reincarnation seems to me to be a key plot point as does fate, spirituality and connections.


message 6: by Diane (new)

Diane  | 2044 comments I agree that there are many subplots. It is hard, though, to clearly identify the main plot.


message 7: by Pip (new)

Pip | 1822 comments I would have thought that the main plot is what is happening to the members of the two clans and their subordinates. There are plenty of sub-plots. Including this time a real Romeo and Juliet story with the maid Chess and her cousin-lover.


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