World, Writing, Wealth discussion

That's for our movie department -:)
Comparing their latest works: The Man from U.N.C.L.E with The Hateful 8, I was more impressed by the former... The 8 for me associated with the return of a sort to a Reservoir Dogs. UNCLE is probably more mainstream than Snatch or Lock, Stock, but still quite cool.
What do you think?

No fans of Ritchie and Tarantino here? Impossible

I like Ritchie. Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels, Snatch and RocknRolla were all kickass! I've enjoyed several of Tarantino's movies, but I would consider Ritchie the better of the two.

Matthew wrote: "I like Ritchie. Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels, Snatch and RocknRolla were all kickass! I've enjoyed several of Tarantino's movies, but I would consider Ritchie the better of the two."

Quentin seems more gory and over the top, while Guy - more subtle and hilarious, both - tremendous action filmmakers, in my opinion, however, as probably with the books, it's hard to hit the nail with each movie

I'm not a great fan of either, but I do know that Pulp Fiction had some visual images that will stay with you forever. Would you say that it's a classic?

Scout wrote: "I'm not a great fan of either, but I do know that Pulp Fiction had some visual images that will stay with you forever. Would you say that it's a classic?"

Definitely. I'd say a generation-defining film for the 90-ies.

Maybe more fans among newer members?

Wow. I have not seen any Guy Ritchie movies. Guess I know what I'll be watching over the next few weeks.

Hope you'll enjoy, pick up some lines for another thread and share back what you'll think :)
Don't remember the details and can't vouch how true this is, but the legend goes that after seeing Ritchie's debut, Brad Pitt called this then unknown producer and implored to be cast in his second movie, maybe even for free or for a symbolic pay and that's how he got into Snatch :)

G.R. wrote: "Wow. I have not seen any Guy Ritchie movies. Guess I know what I'll be watching over the next few weeks."

Snatch would be a great place to start.

Snatch and Lock, Stock seem to be the highest rated of his films.

For the record, I have seen a bunch of Tarantino films and I do find a lot of his work to include violence (for shock factor) and be just darn strange sometimes (a la the gun shop scene in Pulp Fiction). I haven't seen Django yet, but so far Reservoir Dogs is my favorite. Steve Buscemi nailed it as Mr. Pink.

In a sense Django (Black revenge) is very similar to Inglorious Bastards (Jewish revenge). And Christoph Waltz does almost an identical character in both movies..
Yeah, not all Quentin is superb, but rarely dull

The way I look at Tarantino's movies is that I expect the violence to be overboard, histrionic, so I don't take it seriously. The scene in Django where the woman flies backward when shot just looked like a stunt to me. There's really no emotion attached to much of his violence. I can't remember feeling emotionally attached to any of his victims, but my memory isn't that great any more :-) Did you feel emotionally attached to anyone who died in his films?

Agree with you, most of the gore in his films is for cinematographic "fun" rather than something sinister or evil.
"Attached" may be an overstatement, but Travolta killed by Willis was an interesting character in Pulp, Waltz in Django and some more :)

The flamethrower scene in Once Upon A Time in Hollywood was another over-the-top violent scene but, again, it wasn't upsetting to me, just kind of fun imagining doing something like that when you're really pissed off :-)

I always find Tarantino's violence comic book like with a hint of humour.

For both directors I dislike the over emphasis on violence and bad language. The Gentlemen is a good example. Almost ruined by the bad language but still funny.

it would be very nice to see either of them try to do a film without relying on violence and bad language - i.e. prove their broader directing skills

Both are great directors. Both are great story tellers and I do not think either has made a bad film. As for the language and violence, it would be interesting to see if they can pull it off, but then the movies they make are not about the very best in our society. They are about rough people doing rough things. I love the dialogue both use and it works very well for the films.

The aforementioned flamethrower was over-the-top. but that was the point. It was a Hollywood movie.

Yeah, Papaphilly, I was thinking the same thing. The action and violence fits the characters, and I can't see Tarantino creating the typical dramatic characters Hollywood usually goes for or some internal psychological drama with little action. Just wouldn't be Tarantino. Over-the-top is his style, and when you watch one of his movies, you know it's going to be violent, but not in the gut-wrenching way of, say, the first 10 minutes of Saving Private Ryan.

Talking about over-the -top, I really liked early Robert Rodriguez with El Mariachi, Desperado and From Dusk till Dawn, but later stuff like Machete is unwatchable for my taste and that despite Danny Trejo being one of my favorite actors

Nik wrote: "Talking about over-the -top, I really liked early Robert Rodriguez with El Mariachi, Desperado and From Dusk till Dawn, but later stuff like Machete is unwatchable for my taste and that despite Dan..."

Machete is a homage the genre of grind-house. It is meant to be this way on purpose. In American cinema, there is a type called grind-house. It would be a small production company "grinding" out one film after another to be shown mostly inn drive in theaters. A small group of actors would play the roles in the films and they were all in the same film production company.

I certainly understand not liking the film, but it is very well done for what it is meant to be.

Looked up Danny Trejo to be sure he was who I thought he was. Cool actor. His bio says this; "A child drug addict and criminal, Trejo was in and out of jail for 11 years. While serving time in San Quentin, he won the lightweight and welterweight boxing titles. Imprisoned for armed robbery and drug offenses, he successfully completed a 12-step rehabilitation program that changed his life. While speaking at a Cocaine Anonymous meeting in 1985, Trejo met a young man who later called him for support. Trejo went to meet him at what turned out to be the set of Runaway Train (1985). Trejo was immediately offered a role as a convict extra, probably because of his tough tattooed appearance. Also on the set was a screenwriter who did time with Trejo in San Quentin. Remembering Trejo's boxing skills, the screenwriter offered him $320 per day to train the actors for a boxing match. Director Andrey Konchalovskiy saw Trejo training Eric Roberts and immediately offered him a featured role as Roberts' opponent in the film. Trejo has subsequently appeared in many other films, usually as a tough criminal or villain." I know that's a lot, but it's an interesting story.