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The Quartet: Orchestrating the Second American Revolution, 1783-1789
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Alexander Hamilton (the_a_dot_ham) | 96 comments Mod
I'll post discussion questions when I've read it... (Don't look at me like that! I know my shame!)

In the meantime, here's an interesting article relating the nuclear option to the Constitutional Convention: http://www.libertylawsite.org/2017/04/11/the-original-nuclear-option/


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Jane (janehex) Interesting chapter about the process of ratification. I never did like that Patrick Henry. But isn't he a little right that the idea of "The American People" is a romantic fantasy?
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"The Constitution was intended less to resolve arguments than to make argument itself the solution."

So it is a living document, as it were, and that was the correct direction in which to take it. What do you think?


Jane (janehex) Also of course I do not mean to step on your toes, Alexander -- those are just a couple of my thoughts about the chapter :) and I wanted to just throw them out there before starting ch. 7.


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Nancy | 41 comments There was one paragraph that summed up the chapter, and also did a nice job of summarizing the argument of the Constitution vs Articles for me:
"Henry spoke for the past and Madison spoke for the future. But Henry deserves full attention for making the case for what we might call the first American Revolution with such clarity. “Have they said, ‘we the states’…this would be a confederation…. The question turns, Sir, on that poor little thing, the expression ‘We, the people,’ instead of the States of America.” Henry was right. That was the core issue."
It's not something that I ever really thought of but I can see how "we the people..." made all the difference .
I too am not much of a fan of Henry but give him credit for knowing when to walk away. He could have kept fighting to prevent ratification, but perhaps (?) he came to realize that change is inevitable and there was no going backwards.


Alexander Hamilton (the_a_dot_ham) | 96 comments Mod
Jane, you are of course not stepping on my toes!

After this week, things will get much easier for me to keep up although I'm finding motivation for this particular book difficult because I didn't know it before, but I don't really care for Ellis.


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