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message 1: by Nik (new)

Nik Krasno | 19852 comments Once philosophy was the mother and father of all sciences, but somewhere along the way, once the applicability and practical tangible realization became much more important, philosophy lost its positions, if not disappeared. Theology is somehow coping better.
Does philosophy have a future? What do you think?
And how exactly do philosophers pay their bills?


message 2: by J.N. (new)

J.N. Bedout (jndebedout) | 104 comments Today's philosophers rap.

Example:

"You've got to always go back in time if you want to move forward."
-- Snoop Dogg


message 3: by Nik (new)

Nik Krasno | 19852 comments Snoop is a cool dude. Viewed him more as a poet, but I guess the philosophical flavor, now that you mention it, is undeniable either -:)


message 4: by Scout (new)

Scout (goodreadscomscout) | 8073 comments Snoop, the modern Freud. How about Dylan's "It's not dark yet, but it getting there"?


message 5: by Graeme (new)

Graeme Rodaughan Plato divorced philosophy from the realm of human experience and it's been pretty much lost ever since.


message 6: by Avnish (new)

Avnish Bhatia | 19 comments Thoughts on solving human problems invokes new ideas, which develop to a philosophy over time. All the sciences, religions, politics, businesses are built on philosophies. Do you think what looks true and acceptable today will be so for ever. I think new ideas and philosophies will take over today's beliefs.
So philosophy is an essential component of human civilization and should exist for ever.


message 7: by Leonie (new)

Leonie (leonierogers) | 1579 comments I think there's possibly a lack of philosophy, or deep thinking in our flat out society, or perhaps it's more a lack of time for it, perhaps.

Maybe we're going so fast sometimes we don't slow down enough to ponder?


message 8: by Daniel J. (new)

Daniel J. Nickolas (danieljnickolas) | 111 comments Unlike other sciences, philosophy seems to have fluxes between being prolific and being relatively obscure. I say “relatively obscure” because, during those times, philosophy often appears in places where it’s not immediately recognizable, like in a Snoop Dog lyric.

I also think the prevalence of philosophy within a society, at any given time, depends on how practical — not necessarily how valuable — that society believes philosophy is. I think the United States of America (where I live) could currently benefit from some serious nationwide philosophical discussions, but philosophy doesn’t seem all that important in current American society, due in part to what Leonie suggested. Plus, U.S.A. culture places an emphasis on having an established system of beliefs and being (mostly) unwavering in those beliefs; it’s not currently a culture where philosophy can thrive.

But, as Avnish said, the world changes. Change alone often begets philosophical thought. Perhaps a new culture that views philosophy as being extremely important will soon arise. Or perhaps that culture already exists, but doesn’t yet have the global influence to be considered a major player in the arts and sciences.


message 9: by Nik (new)

Nik Krasno | 19852 comments Money is a current all-inclusive philosophy, however I hope it'll be reversely applied to philosophic studies at some stage ...


message 10: by Nik (new)

Nik Krasno | 19852 comments Philosopher, anyone? -:)


message 11: by Philip (new)

Philip (phenweb) Recommend the Monty Python philosopher's song

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruces%...


message 12: by Nik (last edited Jan 11, 2020 07:41AM) (new)

Nik Krasno | 19852 comments -:) Yeah, maybe a bunch of drunkards, engaged in metaphysics
Here's the actual song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9SqQ...


message 13: by Philip (new)

Philip (phenweb) Also recommend from MP
The philosophy football match
The University Challenge sketch

if you can find them


message 14: by Scout (new)

Scout (goodreadscomscout) | 8073 comments Do people even take the time these days to consider a personal philosophy? Or is it just act and react in the moment without reflection?


message 15: by Nik (last edited Jan 14, 2020 01:18AM) (new)

Nik Krasno | 19852 comments Scout wrote: "Do people even take the time these days to consider a personal philosophy? Or is it just act and react in the moment without reflection?"

That's what I'm afraid of - we often live the routine scared or shy about weighing "grand" things. On the other hand, just being a dreamer doesn't achieve much :)


message 16: by Scout (new)

Scout (goodreadscomscout) | 8073 comments Is it important to go to a safe place and take some time away from everyday things, even for a few minutes? Rushing headlong into the next moment may be foolhardy.


message 17: by Lizzie (new)

Lizzie | 2057 comments My son is taking both philosophy and sociology courses. He has been reading a lot books over the past years that range from The Art of War to Balthasar Gracian a Jesuit priest from the 1600s, to the Tipping Point. His interest is in why people do what they do.

Prison life seemed to create quite a few philosophers. They have a lot of time which can lead to thinking. Most people today don't seem to have time to think - work, kids, school, finances.


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