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message 1: by Adam (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments Thought of starting a thread on articles and videos that you think should be relevant connection to intersectional politics and direction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngHLK...


message 2: by Ross (new)

Ross | 1444 comments Feminist march on issues of equality. Given the current US administration and BEXIT in the UK more civil action is predictable as historically women's right suffer most in oppressive times.

So we will have to be more active as will all civil rights and environment groups. Intersectional feminism the its core beliefs in cooperation may even have a larger role to play. Many influential feminist also being environment activist.


message 3: by Adam (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments "Be more active"

How to set-up a societal structure (with extreme prejudice/could be nicer I suppose) that supports that so we all don't get blindsided again by another economic revolt and a clown car fascist?

*keeps up the invisible war*


message 4: by Adam (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments Emma wrote: "Adam wrote: ""Be more active"

How to set-up a societal structure (with extreme prejudice/could be nicer I suppose) that supports that so we all don't get blindsided again by another economic revol..."


A very intentional pun (If the full phrase is used) and cryptic (no longer) from a 2nd game in a series "Deus Ex (Machina): Invisible War"

Going out to mow the lawn now.

No rest for the wicked.


message 5: by Adam (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments "Mostly young women"

*Eye starts to twitch after that*

Wait till the "menstruation" bit.

https://youtu.be/wLZDs0FYKqk


message 6: by Adam (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments Keith wrote: "Adam wrote: ""Mostly young women"

*Eye starts to twitch after that*

Wait till the "menstruation" bit.

https://youtu.be/wLZDs0FYKqk"

I had to listen to the "'menstruation" bit 3 times before it ..."


We live in a predictable outcome.


message 7: by Adam (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments TFW a nightclub comedian is bringing people the crucial news.

https://youtu.be/VZfYZVR4X2c


#lose not loose


message 8: by David (new)

David Larkin | 49 comments Adam,

The YouTube video has been deleted. Imagine that! Somebody must have pissed off the Republicans. As I see it, the people who currently own the government are going to do everything they can to deny, delay and destroy. Remember; "Control the information, and you control the population."

We can fight it, but ain't gonna be easy.

David Larkin


message 9: by Adam (last edited Oct 31, 2017 04:40PM) (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments I pretty much float between "fuckit" and "Pushit"

Let The Madness Begin : A commentary on "The Sane Progressive"

https://youtu.be/B71A0QupQQw


message 10: by Adam (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments The stay at home mom dilemma.

https://youtu.be/xFqA9u6y0Fk


message 11: by Adam (last edited Oct 31, 2017 04:39PM) (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments The Jimmy Dore Show: Paul Ryan Lies To A Nun's Face On CNN

https://youtu.be/FzucfiAX9a8


message 12: by Adam (last edited Oct 31, 2017 04:38PM) (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments The Real News: How a Program Intended to Help the Poor Became an ATM for Billionaires

https://youtu.be/7e-wple8p50


message 13: by Ross (new)

Ross | 1444 comments All begs the question just because some innovative approaches are corrupted do we do nothing.

the modern dilemma, I always think of the Buddhist parable

there was a flood tide and the beach is littered with floundering fish thousands of them. The student finds the master putting fish back in the sea. he says "why are you doing that there are so many you can't make a difference. the master not turning form his task points at the last fish and says " made a difference to that one "


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Sylvia Vetta | 8 comments TIME TO PUT AN END to the empathy and dynamic culture destroying idea of CULTURAL APPROPRIATION?
How can proponents of CA attitudes accept a man writing about a woman or a woman a man?

https://www.the-tls.co.uk/articles/pu...
See also the Reith Lectures: Mistaken Identities, Kwame Anthony Appiah (particularly 3 and 4, on Colour and Culture):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0072...
Cultural Appropriation is a Toxic Concept, Farah Shah:
https://extranewsfeed.com/cultural-ap......
http://www.filmsforaction.org/article...


message 15: by Adam (last edited Oct 31, 2017 04:37PM) (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments Why Conservatives Blame Poverty on the Poor
A new essay by National Review's Kevin Williamson exposes the ideological blind spots of responsibility politics.
BY SARAH JONES


https://newrepublic.com/article/14550...


message 16: by Adam (last edited Oct 31, 2017 04:37PM) (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments Truth-out: Imagining Our Way Beyond Neoliberalism: A Dialogue With Noam Chomsky and Robert Pollin

This is part two of a wide-ranging interview with world-renowned public intellectuals Noam Chomsky and Robert Pollin. The next installment will appear on October 31.

Part 1: http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item...

Part 2: http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item...


message 17: by Ross (new)

Ross | 1444 comments @adam saying the video is unavailable can you summarise it.


message 18: by Adam (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments Ross wrote: "@adam saying the video is unavailable can you summarise it."

Which video?


message 19: by Adam (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments Emma wrote: "Adam, when you post links and videos, can you explain them a bit more, so I have context as to what you want to say by sharing the video/websit elink? I'd appreciate that if you could :)"

Done.

Getting into bad habits by spending to much time on "People who came to Fight Club for the first time, their ass was a wad of cookie dough. After a few weeks, they were carved out of wood." Twitter.


message 20: by Adam (last edited Oct 31, 2017 06:34PM) (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments The National Review> Tripping Up Trump
#MAGA or #NeverTrump, nobody should be comfortable with how federal criminal investigations work.

FTA: "At six in the morning, a man is startled awake by an insistent pounding on his front door. He opens it to find armed government agents. One group of them begins to ransack the man’s home. Two others take him outside and put him into the back seat of a nondescript government vehicle. One of the armed government agents sits on either side of him, trapping him. As he sits, blinking and confused in his pajamas, they begin to bark questions at him. Was he at a particular meeting, on a particular date, with a political figure who is under suspicion of wrongdoing? The man, confused and afraid and thoroughly intimidated, makes a bad choice — he answers, and he lies. He says he was not at the meeting. The armed government agents smile. They already have witnesses placing the man at the meeting. They already have a recording of the man at the meeting. His lie does not deter, mislead, or even mildly inconvenience them. But now they have him, whether or not he’s done anything wrong before — now he’s lied to the government, a serious crime.


http://www.nationalreview.com/article...

Relevant song: https://youtu.be/SqZNMvIEHhs


message 21: by Ross (new)

Ross | 1444 comments These men face serious charges and have wealth and influence a flight risk by definition.

Should rich white colloer criminals be treated differently? Particularly given the current revelations of how things can develope when they are not held to account.


message 22: by Adam (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments Ross wrote: "These men face serious charges and have wealth and influence a flight risk by definition.

Should rich white colloer criminals be treated differently? Particularly given the current revelations of..."


Yes these people have committed many crimes.

The Investigation leads to *material* evidence that a court of law uses to find the defendant (Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt [remember why that came about couple hundred years ago]) guilty.

Having the investigators (FBI) use a *non-material* lie to convict removes the "court of law".

Back to the good ol' days.


message 23: by Adam (last edited Nov 02, 2017 06:26PM) (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments Ross wrote: "@adam saying the video is unavailable can you summarise it."

Does this work?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e-wp...


message 24: by Ross (new)

Ross | 1444 comments Thanks Adam. does show the fact current patriarchy is not working encouraging abuse we have to balance power to create and sustain equality.


message 25: by Adam (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments Are those corrections being ignored, or are those corrections being actively suppressed? Like when Twitter came forth about suppressing (50% of them at least) the #DNCleaks and #Podestaleaks.

Makes me wonder what else the "Silicon Valley" social media corporations are also suppressing.

Four Viral Claims Spread by Journalists on Twitter in the Last Week Alone That are False

Glenn Greenwald

FTA: The design of Twitter, where many political journalists spend their time, is in large part responsible for this damage. Its space constraints mean that tweeted headlines or tiny summaries of reporting are often assumed to be true with no critical analysis of their accuracy, and are easily spread. Claims from journalists that people want to believe are shared like wildfire, while less popular, subsequent corrections or nuanced debunking are easily ignored. Whatever one’s views are on the actual impact of Twitter Russian bots, surely the propensity of journalistic falsehoods to spread far and wide is at least as significant.

https://theintercept.com/2017/11/05/f...


message 26: by Ross (new)

Ross | 1444 comments why not its a good subject things are changing fast and the fourth wave is in the raise.


message 27: by Ross (new)

Ross | 1444 comments Twitter is definitely inconsistent they remove some acc that are offensive quickly but one called celebrity starlets that photoshop famous women heads on other women naked bodies has been reported many times and still active ?


message 28: by MeerderWörter (new)

MeerderWörter | 2388 comments Ross wrote: "Twitter is definitely inconsistent they remove some acc that are offensive quickly but one called celebrity starlets that photoshop famous women heads on other women naked bodies has been reported ..."

I still didn't get anything back from Twitter for that particular account.
Also, right now they have blocked the picture search for "bisexual", and I really wonder why?

To come back to the question: Twitter would really need a fact-check tool, I've seen some distorted stuff being spread on there.


message 29: by Adam (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments Ross wrote: "Twitter is definitely inconsistent they remove some acc that are offensive quickly but one called celebrity starlets that photoshop famous women heads on other women naked bodies has been reported ..."

Twitter is a corporation that seeks profit above all else.

All else.

Here we are chasing net neutrality right into the maw of silicon valley.


message 30: by Adam (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments Harvey Weinstein's army of spies.

New Yorker

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-d...

FTA:
In the fall of 2016, Harvey Weinstein set out to suppress allegations that he had sexually harassed or assaulted numerous women. He began to hire private security agencies to collect information on the women and the journalists trying to expose the allegations. According to dozens of pages of documents, and seven people directly involved in the effort, the firms that Weinstein hired included Kroll, which is one of the world’s largest corporate-intelligence companies, and Black Cube, an enterprise run largely by former officers of Mossad and other Israeli intelligence agencies. Black Cube, which has branches in Tel Aviv, London, and Paris, offers its clients the skills of operatives “highly experienced and trained in Israel’s elite military and governmental intelligence units,” according to its literature.

Two private investigators from Black Cube, using false identities, met with the actress Rose McGowan, who eventually publicly accused Weinstein of rape, to extract information from her. One of the investigators pretended to be a women’s-rights advocate and secretly recorded at least four meetings with McGowan. The same operative, using a different false identity and implying that she had an allegation against Weinstein, met twice with a journalist to find out which women were talking to the press. In other cases, journalists directed by Weinstein or the private investigators interviewed women and reported back the details.


message 31: by Adam (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments Adam wrote: "Harvey Weinstein's army of spies.

New Yorker

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-d...

FTA:
In the fall of 2016, Harvey Weinstein set out to suppress allegations t..."


I have a strong suspicion it is not just Weinstein that is doing this.

#structure


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Adam Sowa | 227 comments Counter Punch: Why Doesn’t the Born Leader of the Feminist Movement Speak for Me Too?
by MELISSA GARRIGA

https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/11/...

FTA;
“Along Came Hillary”

Twitter had its fun a couple of weeks ago, when the children’s book, Hillary Rodham Clinton: Some Girls Are Born to Lead, resurfaced. The book was originally published in January of 2016, in the middle of Hillary’s campaign for presidency. I don’t recall if the book received much fanfare when released but honestly who can remember every insane moment of traveling circus known as the 2016 Presidential Election. Among many, over exaggerated accomplishments the book disgustingly attributes to Hillary, the biggest one comes from when Hillary graced the world with her presence. The author suggests that in the 1950s we were living in a man’s world and it wasn’t until Hillary came along (was born) that woman began to become accomplished. As several have pointed out, many great and accomplished women have flourished before tiny Hillary was even conceived. This Daily Wire article perfectly captures the problematic page and gives a great examples of the recent reaction.


message 33: by MeerderWörter (new)

MeerderWörter | 2388 comments Adam wrote: "Counter Punch: Why Doesn’t the Born Leader of the Feminist Movement Speak for Me Too?
by MELISSA GARRIGA

https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/11/......"


I don't think anybody HAS TO speak for MeToo.
And really, Clinton is th savior of us all and the start of feminism? What about the suffragettes?


message 34: by Adam (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments MeerderWörter wrote: "Adam wrote: "Counter Punch: Why Doesn’t the Born Leader of the Feminist Movement Speak for Me Too?
by MELISSA GARRIGA

https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/11/......"


Welcom to corporatized identiy politics.


message 35: by Adam (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments The Silencing of Dissent
TruthDig
Chris Hedges



FTA:

The ruling elites, who grasp that the reigning ideology of global corporate capitalism and imperial expansion no longer has moral or intellectual credibility, have mounted a campaign to shut down the platforms given to their critics. The attacks within this campaign include blacklisting, censorship and slandering dissidents as foreign agents for Russia and purveyors of “fake news.”

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the...


message 36: by Ross (new)

Ross | 1444 comments political power structures not withstanding campaigns like #meToo are the voice of a oppressed group I believe even feminist men we shocked at the sheer scale of the problem no industry and very few women escaped harassment of some form.

Clearly this is an issue that has been ignored men and yes women have been guilty of acceptance.

We must all work to make this causal attitude a thing of the past.

when we all do this our political leaders will have no choice to act. they exist on our sufferance and they know it.

We should all be feminist!


message 37: by Adam (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments Ross wrote: "political power structures not withstanding campaigns like #meToo are the voice of a oppressed group I believe even feminist men we shocked at the sheer scale of the problem no industry and very fe..."

It's not just the entertainment industry (Ashley Judd [only her?] has linked to Tweets/articles about that): The hotel service industry (one of Jud's links) is ripe with #metoo.

Men by definition can't be F(or f)eminists.


message 38: by Adam (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments Caught this on the Twitter: Woman getting (a phrase common in the states, maybe elsewhere) into "The Poverty Trap".

"From top graduate to fleeing a bedsit – how Universal Credit nearly destroyed me"

"I waited months for Universal Credit. Then my landlord kicked me out and I was forced to move in with a man I didn't know."


https://www.newstatesman.com/politics...


message 39: by Adam (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments I have never been sexually assaulted

Deidre Person

Feminist Current


http://www.feministcurrent.com/2016/1...


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Adam Sowa | 227 comments The Intercept: Will the prison rape epidemic ever have its Weinstein moment?

FTA: Fear and threat of retaliation undergirds the prevalence of sexual violence in prisons and detention, as does the popular belief that incarcerated people should not be trusted or believed. Retaliation can take many forms in detention. There’s the threat of further violence, as well as possible interference into “all the little things that make life behind bars bearable,” said Law. “There’s a very lengthy process once you file a complaint, and once you have, you might notice that your mail comes up missing, or your cell is suddenly subjected to searches — which means they turn everything upside down, throw your belongings on the floor, or maybe your mom comes to visit and has to wait for hours.”


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Adam Sowa | 227 comments The Guardian: Susan Sarandon: "I thought Hillary (Clinton) was very dangerous. If she had won, we would be at war"

FTA: Now, of course, no one in Sarandon’s industry would get caught dead having a flaky opinion on sexism in Hollywood. Still, the actor is cautious. One gets the feeling that the Harvey Weinstein business simply isn’t very interesting to Sarandon, that there are other causes – the Keystone pipeline, fracking, oil and gas money in politics – that she considers more urgent. She is no apologist for the Weinsteins of this world, but she can, at times, sound positively libertarian about where the responsibilities of the women involved lie.


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MeerderWörter | 2388 comments Adam wrote: "The Guardian: Susan Sarandon: "I thought Hillary (Clinton) was very dangerous. If she had won, we would be at war"

FTA: Now, of course, no one in Sarandon’s industry would get caught dead having a..."


I will never understand how you cannot fight against both - against pipelines AND sexism. I see how the pipelines are highly problematic, but so is the sexism in Hollywood.


message 43: by Adam (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments MeerderWörter wrote: "Adam wrote: "The Guardian: Susan Sarandon: "I thought Hillary (Clinton) was very dangerous. If she had won, we would be at war"

FTA: Now, of course, no one in Sarandon’s industry would get caught ..."


If the CO2 levels are not brought under control; at the best reversed, there will be a mass extinction event. With only insects and, possibly small mammals, left: There will be no one to speak for us humans.


message 44: by Adam (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments Ashley Judd: Women will persevere in fighting sexual harassment

http://www.philstar.com/entertainment...

FTA:

"I want to talk about how it's not about sex, it's about power," she said. "I want to talk about how the statistics say that one in three or one in four of us experience sexual misconduct. But every time I get together with three or four women, it's all three or four of us.

"I want to talk about how there is naturally a chaotic, messy, unprecedented socio-cultural, sexual change — the reckoning as some folks are calling it — happening around us," she added. "And it won't be tidy, and it won't be easy, and we don't have a playbook. We can't go to page 463 and tear it out and say this is how we navigate what's going on."

Judd talked for more than an hour, discussing a range of issues that included gender equality, human trafficking and sexual abuse.

She said allegations of sexual harassment are becoming so frequent that "it's really hard to keep track." While some powerful men have lost their jobs due to harassment allegations, Judd said: "What about all of the women whose careers never got off the ground?"

"What about the collective economic loss endured, especially by women in low-paying jobs, women on the margins of the margin, the undocumented, the field workers, the gals in the diners who get their bottom pinched all the time? What about them?"


message 45: by Adam (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments Posted this on another form a bit ago (granted I over did it just slightly) and had it removed, save for (at least) one spot.

Good watch.

Chris Hedges speech on his book "Empire of Illusion" (good read) and other things.

https://youtu.be/Az-lLyT9O9Q

Get to it before silicon valley memory holes it.


message 46: by Adam (last edited Dec 14, 2017 04:01AM) (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments YouTube video (may not play due to your specific location) of Mark Blyth: Why Do People Continue To Believe Stupid Economic Ideas?

Description from the page link: Mark Blyth is the Eastman Professor of Political Economy at The Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs of Brown University. Before becoming an academic Blyth has been variously, a stand-up comedian, a chef, and a funk bass player. Realizing that such pursuits where long options at best, he finished his PhD. in political science at Columbia University in 1999. He then joined the Johns Hopkins University before moving to Brown University in 2009. His research focuses upon the causes of stability and change in the economy and why people continue to believe stupid economic ideas despite buckets of evidence to the contrary. The power of economic ideas is a common theme in Blyth’s work, as seen in his recent award winning Book Austerity: The History of a Dangerous Idea (New York: Oxford University Press 2015) and in his new projects on the economic legacies of the baby boomers and the politics of low growth. When not writing, he still likes to cook, and he recently has become a serious cocktail mixologist, which eases the pain of the stuff he writes about.

https://youtu.be/lq3s-Ifx1Fo


message 47: by Adam (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments Stole this from someone that will not be named:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...

How Tough Is It to Change a Culture of Harassment? Ask Women at Ford: Decades after the company tried to tackle sexual misconduct at two Chicago plants, continued abuse raises questions about the possibility of change.


message 48: by Adam (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments As promised {had to be there)

Mark Blyth giving a talk and QandA on why people supposedly vote against their own interest and the current political populist (both "sides") uprisings.

Worth the watch imho.

https://youtu.be/BsqGITb0W4A


message 49: by Adam (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments Richard D Wolff.

The Truth About Power and Capitalism: A Socialist Response to the Tax Bill

http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item...


message 50: by Adam (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments In case that little stunt didn't get reach high and/or far enough (again: had to be there)

By Arundhati Roy

Capitalism: A Ghost Story
Rockefeller to Mandela, Vedanta to Anna Hazare.... How long can the cardinals of corporate gospel buy up our protests?


https://www.outlookindia.com/magazine...

FTA: Capitalism, [Karl Marx] said, “has conjured up such gigantic means of production and of exchange, that it is like the sorcerer who is no longer able to control the powers of the nether world whom he has called up by his spells”.


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