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message 201: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie I have started another by Muriel Spark. This time Loitering with Intent. It is delightfully narrated by Nadia May.


message 202: by Nichole (new)

Nichole | 554 comments Wow! I certainly understand why Chekhov is called the "creator of the modern short story." I love this collection Forty Stories by Anton Chekhov, and I'm really not a lover of short stories. I now remember reading other stories of his way back during my college years - and loving them. How could I have forgotten this?


message 203: by Chrissie (last edited Nov 25, 2017 08:41PM) (new)

Chrissie Nichole wrote: "Wow! I certainly understand why Chekhov is called the "creator of the modern short story." I love this collection Forty Stories by Anton Chekhov, and I'm really not a..."

I am tempted. .....but I too dislike short stories! Every time I do read something by Chekhov I am totally caught up in his world. I cannot figure out how to read a book of short stories; I can sit and listen/read for two hours and so I fear a book of short stories will become a total blur.


message 204: by Nichole (new)

Nichole | 554 comments I can relate. I can lose myself for hours in the world of a novel. The briefness of a short story kills the reading momentum. The tale ends too quickly, and the dream ends. My senses are jarred.

For Chekhov, however, I will sacrifice that peace. His stories are that good.


message 205: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie Nichole wrote: "I can relate. I can lose myself for hours in the world of a novel. The briefness of a short story kills the reading momentum. The tale ends too quickly, and the dream ends. My senses are jarred.

F..."


I am with you in all that you say.


message 206: by Marina (new)

Marina (sonnenbarke) I've started The Brewer of Preston. I'm about 30% in and have yet to understand whether I like it or not. It IS fun, though.


message 207: by Chrissie (last edited Nov 26, 2017 12:50AM) (new)

Chrissie Marina, that book looks kind of fun. I like it because it is NOT part of an inspector series. Is this you first by the author?


message 208: by Marina (new)

Marina (sonnenbarke) Chrissie wrote: "Marina, that book looks kind of fun. I like it because it is NOT part of an inspector series. Is this you first by the author?"

No, I've read a lot of books by this author, I think more than 20 for sure. I love his Montalbano series. However, my favorite is not part of the series and it's titled La scomparsa di Patò. I see that unfortunately there is no English edition :(


message 209: by Chrissie (last edited Nov 27, 2017 01:08AM) (new)

Chrissie Marina wrote: "Chrissie wrote: "Marina, that book looks kind of fun. I like it because it is NOT part of an inspector series. Is this you first by the author?"

No, I've read a lot of books by this author, I thin..."


Should one read the series in order? If so, I guess I should start with The Shape of Water?

Is this author kind of likeMagdalen Nabb Magdalena Nabb ?

Have you read The Revolution of the Moon by Camilleri?


message 210: by Nichole (new)

Nichole | 554 comments Chrissie, I will put Loitering with Intent on my to-read list. I am intrigued by Muriel Spark's writing.


message 211: by Diane S ☔ (new)

Diane S ☔ I put it on mine as well.

Started Sweet Bean Paste.


message 212: by Chrissie (last edited Nov 26, 2017 08:54PM) (new)

Chrissie Nicole and Diane, I want to know if Sparks is just a perfect fit for me or if others also will appreciate her humor, her wit and what she is saying. HER mysteries appeal to me b/c they are clever and they say something about society. There is a sarcasm in her writing that appeals to me. I have found this book:Appointment in Arezzo: A friendship with Muriel Spark and will be reading it soon. If you look at the book description it says: "Once, she commented sitting over a glass of chianti at the kitchen table, that she was upset that the academic whom she had appointed her official biographer did not appear to think that she had ever cracked a joke in her life. In Appointment in Arezzo Alan Taylor sets the record straight about this and many other things." It occurs to me that the humor I see maybe is not seen by others! I have decided to put all her remaining books which I have not yet listened to, except a collection of short stories, on my wish list. (Nicole, you might be braver than me with the short story collection!)

Her books are short and they have a mystery element, two characteristics that I do not usually appreciate, bu tin Spark's hands it works. Her books are not heavy on character portrayal, which is usually a must for me, but I realized, when I completed Loitering with Intent, that I HAD come to know Fleur and the wonderful great old lady Edwina VERY well. Also, this book might even be classified as historical fiction - it throws in how it was to live in London after the war with the petrol rationing, food shortages and bombed buildings. There are also references to literature, but these usually went over my head.

The book is short but has so much in it.


message 213: by Nichole (last edited Nov 26, 2017 11:25PM) (new)

Nichole | 554 comments Chrissie, Muriel Spark's books appeal to readers with a keen appreciation of intelligent writing. Truly gifted writers can fuse genres; combine anything (mystery, sarcasm) to make a point, to create unforgettable stories. Spark was subtle, well-learned, witty, and clever: she had a way with words, description, and set-up. She could recapture an era. She did this well in her most famous novel The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie. The first pages described the Brodie Set. I could feel the mystery of Jean Brodie and her set of special girls. The beginning of the end. Some kind of devastation was coming later on. What would it be? Had Brodie created monsters in those girls? All this intrigue from just the first few pages. Perfect literary fiction. I loved it.


message 214: by Marina (new)

Marina (sonnenbarke) Chrissie, I haven't read The Revolution of the Moon and I must confess I didn't even know of it. It seems interesting.

I don't know Magdalena Nabb so I can't say if the two authors are similar in any way, sorry.

As for the Montalbano series, there is no obligation to read it in order, meaning that you can perfectly understand each book without reading the previous ones. However, I am reading them in order (I've read till #18 so far), because in this way I can see how Montalbano evolves as a character. If you decide to read them in order, yes, you should start with The Shape of Water. Here you can see the whole series: https://www.goodreads.com/series/5107...


message 215: by Chrissie (last edited Nov 27, 2017 01:14AM) (new)

Chrissie Nichole wrote: "Chrissie, Muriel Spark's books appeal to readers with a keen appreciation of intelligent writing. Truly gifted writers can fuse genres; combine anything (mystery, sarcasm) to make a point, to creat..."

In my view The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie is good but not as good as some of her others. We both agree on her talent.


message 216: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie Marina wrote: "Chrissie, I haven't read The Revolution of the Moon and I must confess I didn't even know of it. It seems interesting.

I don't know Magdalena Nabb so I can't say if the two authors..."


I spelled Nabb's name incorrectly and the link was wrong. Here it is corrected: Magdalen Nabb. Her detective series is good.

I think I too would prefer to read the Montalbano series in order .


message 217: by Marina (new)

Marina (sonnenbarke) Thanks, Chrissie. I didn't know Magdalen Nabb, but her detective series seems interesting. I lived in Florence for 4 years, so that makes it even more interesting for me.


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LauraT (laurata) | 14362 comments Mod
Chrissie wrote: "LauraT, could you tell us how you are thinking after the weekend, when you have come further?"

I'm almosto done with it - just something like 75 pages - had more to do this week end than I expected!
I liked it, even if it dealt more on war and politics details than I generally appreciate. But I've learnt much; not a masterpiece, but to be suggested in my opinion, if you like history books


message 219: by Nichole (new)

Nichole | 554 comments Really? I consider The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie her best. I will add Appointment in Arezzo: A friendship with Muriel Spark to my list, also.


message 220: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie Marina wrote: "Thanks, Chrissie. I didn't know Magdalen Nabb, but her detective series seems interesting. I lived in Florence for 4 years, so that makes it even more interesting for me."

The Monster of Florence is super creepy! I think it was The Marshal and the Murderer that I thought was best. The books are good b/c you come to really like Marshal Guarnaccia.He feels like a rather normal guy. I have not read them in order.


message 221: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie Nichole wrote: "Really? I consider The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie her best. I will add Appointment in Arezzo: A friendship with Muriel Spark to my list, also."

Yeah, well I just rate according to how I personally react to a book. I know the one you name is more famous. For me, character portrayal is better in Loitering with Intent.


message 222: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie LauraT wrote: "Chrissie wrote: "LauraT, could you tell us how you are thinking after the weekend, when you have come further?"

I'm almosto done with it - just something like 75 pages - had more to do this week e..."


OK, maybe I will consider it. You didn't find the spying too difficult to understand?


message 223: by Joan (new)

Joan Your discussion has convinced me to give Muriel Sparks’ books a try! I love reading your different reactions.


message 224: by Chrissie (last edited Nov 27, 2017 10:55PM) (new)

Chrissie Joan wrote: "Your discussion has convinced me to give Muriel Sparks’ books a try! I love reading your different reactions."

I am hoping you like her writing. I have a book with several of Spark's novellas. I got the book from my Mom, and NEVER read them while she was alive....... so NOW I cannot read the paper book, but I see it has Loitering with Intent so I am sending it to my son. If he doesn't like it I told him to exchange it in the second hand book store for something else. It is terribly annoying b/c it has stories I have not read.


message 225: by Leslie (new)

Leslie | 16369 comments Chrissie wrote: "I have started another by Muriel Spark. This time Loitering with Intent. It is delightfully narrated by Nadia May."

I love this book! My favorite Spark (so far)... I hope to read Robinson next month...


message 226: by B. P. (new)

B. P. Rinehart (ken_mot) I am reading David Copperfield right now. I have seen multiple adaptions of various works by Charles Dickens, but this is the second (or third) work I have read by him (on account of not being a big fan of the 19th century 800-900 page novel form). As I am a big fan of this work from what I have seen (particularly the 1999 BBC adaptation), I decided to read this one for the holiday season.


message 227: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie Leslie wrote: "Chrissie wrote: "I have started another by Muriel Spark. This time Loitering with Intent. It is delightfully narrated by Nadia May."

I love this book! My favorite Spark..."


I think it is amazing how she can put together so many different stories, even if mystery, murder, blackmail, occult are common ingredients. What is completely impossible to see from each one's book description is the humor and the wit and the clever lines delivered.


message 228: by Esther (last edited Nov 29, 2017 01:13AM) (new)

Esther (eshchory) | 1368 comments I have just finished Forest Dark which was disappointing and started Midnight at the Bright Ideas Bookstore which I am not sure about.


message 229: by Angela M (new)

Angela M Esther , I actually gave up on Forest Dark . It was a disappointment to me since I loved other novels.


message 230: by Esther (new)

Esther (eshchory) | 1368 comments Angela M wrote: "Esther , I actually gave up on Forest Dark . It was a disappointment to me since I loved other novels."

I kept hoping it was going to end in something meaningful but it just stopped in the middle of nowhere.


message 231: by Nichole (new)

Nichole | 554 comments I'm really enjoying reading this thread right now at work.


message 232: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie I have just begun another book by Amos Oz. This one: Judas. Usually his writing is good.


message 233: by Nichole (new)

Nichole | 554 comments Oz's book A Tale of Love and Darkness is on my to-read list. I could not finish his book Jews and Words. It did not hold my attention. I will try A Tale in maybe January.


message 234: by Chrissie (last edited Nov 29, 2017 10:29PM) (new)

Chrissie Nichole wrote: "Oz's book A Tale of Love and Darkness is on my to-read list. I could not finish his book Jews and Words. It did not hold my attention. I will try A Tale in maybe January."

I do not know really what you like, so I can only speak for myself. I liked A Tale of Love and Darkness a lot. It is my favorite by the author, even if I have given all the books I have read by him four stars. I have not read his non-fictional essays though. I am definitely enjoying Judas. I just like what and how he describes places and people. The Jewish trait of discussing a point in and out and from all sides attracts me. It is more often silence that causes problems rather than open discussion. I think the author feels this way too, but I am certainly no expert.


message 235: by Beth (new)

Beth | 410 comments I have Antarctica on hold b/c my checkout expired before I could finish it. Also reading An Instance of the Fingerpost


message 236: by Greg (last edited Nov 30, 2017 11:56PM) (new)

Greg | 8316 comments Mod
Nichole wrote: "Really? I consider The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie her best."

I have not yet read many of the other Spark books being mentioned; so I can't say if I'd like others better, but I do agree Nichole that this one is very good.


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Greg | 8316 comments Mod
Chrissie wrote: "I have begun Cat's Eye, my fourth book by Atwood. I like her way with words, but usually the plot and the fantasy elements give me problems,. I chose this because it is reality based. ..."

I'm glad you liked it Chrissie!


message 238: by Greg (last edited Dec 01, 2017 12:12AM) (new)

Greg | 8316 comments Mod
Tonight, I started Simon Armitage's new verse translation of the epic poem Sir Gawain and the Green Knight: A New Verse Translation from the 1400s. Joan originally recommended it and I am definitely not dissapointed so far!

I love the simplicity and grandeur of old epics like this one and Beowulf. Armitage's translation is indeed very fine as well, much better than the other translations I've read in the past.

The beginning of the second part with the description of the cycle of seasons was a high point. I'm already 1/3 done, and I'm forcing myself to slow down to savor it. It's not quite at the level of Heaney's Beowulf, but it's very close!


message 239: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie Greg wrote: "Nichole wrote: "Really? I consider The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie her best."

I have not yet read many of the other Spark books being mentioned; so I can't say if I'd like others bette..."


I am certainly not saying The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie is only mediocre, but that others of hers are even better. Her writing is witty and intelligent. For a person like me who rarely enjoys either mysteries or short books, she is amazing in her ability to make me throw out all rules.


message 240: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie Greg wrote: "Chrissie wrote: "I have begun Cat's Eye, my fourth book by Atwood. I like her way with words, but usually the plot and the fantasy elements give me problems,. I chose this because it i..."

Yeah, I really, really liked it. I wish I could read Surfacing, but since I cannot get that I will tryHag-Seed: The Tempest Retold. I wish she wold do more reality based books.


message 241: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie I have moved from one Israeli author to another. I have finished Judas by Amos Oz and moved on to A Horse Walks into a Bar by David Grossman.


message 242: by Diane S ☔ (new)

Diane S ☔ Reading White Houses by Amy Bloom.

Curious how you will about the Grossman, Chrissie.


message 243: by Chrissie (last edited Dec 02, 2017 05:09AM) (new)

Chrissie Diane S ☔ wrote: "Reading White Houses by Amy Bloom.

Curious how you will about the Grossman, Chrissie."


Re A Horse Walks into a Bar. Stand-up comedy is not my cup of tea, so I am hoping that the message of the book is worth the read. I know the book is really not meant to be "funny". I am only reading it b/c I loved the author's To the End of the Land. So far, I am thinking only that I am glad it is short.


message 245: by dely (last edited Dec 03, 2017 12:05AM) (new)

dely | 5214 comments A couple of days ago I started reading The Moor's Last Sigh by Salman Rushdie. Not an easy writing style because there are long sentences, several brackets with the narrator's thoughts, sometimes italics when it's someone else thoughts, etc.


message 246: by Joan (new)

Joan Just started The Loney for our AAB December group read. It is eerie.
It’s the third book that I’ve read recently about the north of England - is it really as bleak and dismal as the authors describe it.


message 247: by Marina (new)

Marina (sonnenbarke) I've started The Brothers Karamazov. This is going to need all of my time and attention.


message 248: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie Now I have returned to Amos Oz. I wanted more . This time I have chosen The Same Sea:


message 249: by Esther (new)

Esther (eshchory) | 1368 comments Chrissie wrote: "Now I have returned to Amos Oz. I wanted more . This time I have chosen The Same Sea:"

Have you tried Meir Shalev or A.B. Yehoshua. Not really my cup of tea but from my experience in the library they are enjoyed by the same people who like Amos Oz.


message 250: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie I will go and check out both authors. Thank you, Esther.


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