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message 451: by Pamela (new)

Pamela (bibliohound) | 555 comments I’m also a maybe for Ulysses, I’m tempted but I’ll wait to see how the year starts off before committing. I’m definitely in for the Bainbridge though.


message 452: by Roman Clodia (new)

Roman Clodia | 11834 comments Mod
That's great Judy and Pamela, see how you feel in March.


message 453: by Jill (new)

Jill (dogbotsmum) | 802 comments I'm also definitely in for the Bainbridge, don't think I will be for Ulysses.


message 454: by Susan (new)

Susan | 14142 comments Mod
I am wavering on this one, I must admit. I will see how I feel nearer the time, but will definitely follow the discussion with interest.


message 455: by Ben (new)

Ben Keisler | 2137 comments I'm sorry I'll be a bit slow to reply over the next few days.

One chapter per week sounds fine to me!


message 456: by Judy (new)

Judy (wwwgoodreadscomprofilejudyg) | 4836 comments Mod
Jonathan has suggested a buddy read of All In: An Autobiography by Billie Jean King - this sounds great to me. Is anyone else interested in joining in?

If you would like to discuss, please pop over to the tennis books thread:
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...


message 457: by Roman Clodia (new)

Roman Clodia | 11834 comments Mod
Susan, Ben and I have been chatting about a buddy read of Joan Didion's Slouching Towards Bethlehem: Essays in either April or May - anyone else interested, and any preference for month?

This is a follow-on to next month's group read, Didion's Play It as It Lays.

Blurb:
The first nonfiction work by one of the most distinctive prose stylists of our era, Slouching Towards Bethlehem remains, forty years after its first publication, the essential portrait of America— particularly California—in the sixties. It focuses on such subjects as John Wayne and Howard Hughes, growing up a girl in California, ruminating on the nature of good and evil in a Death Valley motel room, and, especially, the essence of San Francisco's Haight-Ashbury, the heart of the counterculture.


message 458: by Nigeyb (new)

Nigeyb | 15796 comments Mod
I'm tempted


I suspect I will be willing and able to read it but want to retain some flexibility just in case


message 459: by Susan (new)

Susan | 14142 comments Mod
Either month is fine by me, RC.


message 460: by Roman Clodia (new)

Roman Clodia | 11834 comments Mod
Great, I'll put it in for April, then :)


message 461: by Susan (new)

Susan | 14142 comments Mod
Thanks, RC. Looking forward to it.


message 462: by Judy (new)

Judy (wwwgoodreadscomprofilejudyg) | 4836 comments Mod
Another for us to add to the list... Jonathan, Ben and I have agreed to buddy read All In: An Autobiography by Billie Jean King in June.


message 463: by Roman Clodia (new)

Roman Clodia | 11834 comments Mod
Dropping out of our discussion on Empire of Pain: The Secret History of the Sackler Dynasty, Susan and I will be buddy reading Stefan Zweig's The World of Yesterday: Memoirs of a European in May. Do feel free to join us (and the Kindle edition is currently just £1.42):

Stefan Zweig's memoir, The World of Yesterday, recalls the golden age of pre-war Europe—its seeming permanence, its promise and its devastating fall. Through the story of his life, and his relationships with the leading literary figures of the day, Zweig's passionate, evocative prose paints a stunning portrait of an era that danced brilliantly on the brink of extinction.

This translation by the award-winning Anthea Bell captures the spirit of Zweig's writing in arguably his most important work, completed shortly before his death in a suicide pact with his wife in 1942.


The World of Yesterday Memoirs of a European by Stefan Zweig


message 464: by Roman Clodia (new)

Roman Clodia | 11834 comments Mod
Susan and I have agreed to buddy read some Shirley Jackson in June: Hangsaman and three shories in The Missing Girl (just 55pp and 99p if anyone is tempted) - do join us for a summer Jackson-fest!

Hangsaman:
Natalie Waite, daughter of a mediocre writer and a neurotic housewife, is increasingly unsure of her place in the world. In the midst of adolescence she senses a creeping darkness in her life, which will spread among nightmarish parties, poisonous college cliques and the manipulations of the intellectual men who surround her, as her identity gradually crumbles.

Inspired by the unsolved disappearance of a female college student near Shirley Jackson's home, Hangsaman is a story of lurking disquiet and haunting disorientation.

The Missing Girl:
' "Of course, no one would want to say anything about a girl like this that's missing..." '

Malice, paranoia and creeping dread lie beneath the surface of ordinary American life in these chilling miniature masterworks of unease.
Contains:
- The Missing Girl
- Journey with a Lady
- Nightmare


The Missing Girl by Shirley Jackson Hangsaman by Shirley Jackson


message 465: by Ben (last edited Jan 31, 2022 03:18AM) (new)

Ben Keisler | 2137 comments I've enjoyed the three Shirley Jackson works I've read so I will join in on Hangsaman at least. But I couldn't find the 55p deal. Where is it?

I did find it for 299p on Amazon


message 466: by Roman Clodia (new)

Roman Clodia | 11834 comments Mod
Here you go, Ben - I should have said 99p for the Kindle: www.amazon.co.uk/Missing-Girl-Penguin...

Great to have you join us on Hangsaman - which are the other three you've read?


message 467: by Ben (new)

Ben Keisler | 2137 comments The Lottery (of course), We Have Always Lived in the Castle, and The Haunting of Hill House


message 468: by Susan (new)

Susan | 14142 comments Mod
Thanks for setting those up, RC. In my review of Hangsman, I wrote:

While Jackson lived at Bennington, it is said she was partially inspired by the story of Paula Jean Weldens disappearance in 1946 and also wrote a story linked to this, “The Missing Girl,” which I would like to read, to compare. There is also a true crime book about the case available: “Clueless in New England: the unsolved disappearances of Paula Welden, Connie Smith and Katherine Hull”, by Michael C. Dooling.

Hangsaman is setting in a barely disguised Bennington and is based largely upon her husband's work there at the time.


message 469: by Roman Clodia (new)

Roman Clodia | 11834 comments Mod
Interesting pairing, Susan - roll on June!


message 470: by Susan (new)

Susan | 14142 comments Mod
I meant Hangsaman is set in...

Yes, should be interesting. looking forward to them.


message 471: by Susan (new)

Susan | 14142 comments Mod
Have recently come across They They

The radical dystopian classic, lost for forty years: in a nightmarish Britain, THEY are coming closer.

'A creepily prescient tale ... Insidiously horrifying!' Margaret Atwood
'A masterpiece of creeping dread.' Emily St. John Mandel

This is Britain: but not as we know it.
THEY begin with a dead dog, shadowy footsteps, confiscated books. Soon the National Gallery is purged; eerie towers survey the coast; mobs stalk the countryside destroying artworks - and those who resist.
THEY capture dissidents - writers, painters, musicians, even the unmarried and childless - in military sweeps, 'curing' these subversives of individual identity.
Survivors gather together as cultural refugees, preserving their crafts, creating, loving and remembering. But THEY make it easier to forget ...

Lost for half a century, newly introduced by Carmen Maria Machado, Kay Dick's They (1977) is a rediscovered dystopian masterpiece of art under attack: a cry from the soul against censorship, a radical celebration of non-conformity - and a warning.

This is from the Foyles email which prompted me to look: A rediscovered classic is one our favourite types of book, and the budding Faber Editions series has added another humdinger to their list: They, a slippy and speculative, slightly experimental dystopia from writer and editor (and once Foyles bookseller) Kay Dick. Forgotten for over forty years, They is a novel of artists and intellectuals in a Britain clamping down on creativity and difference—where books and paintings are confiscated, and individuals are ‘cured’ of identity. An eerie novel of dislocation and control, told in vignette-like chapters: well worth the rediscovery.

Anyone interested in a buddy read?


message 472: by Nigeyb (last edited Feb 03, 2022 02:57AM) (new)

Nigeyb | 15796 comments Mod
Susan wrote:


"Have recently come across They

Anyone interested in a buddy read?"


Alwynne recently alerted me to it

I finished it a few weeks ago

The unsettling vibe of creeping dread, and the many provocative questions the story raises, would make it an interesting choice for a buddy read

https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

3/5


They (1977) by Kay Dick


message 473: by Susan (new)

Susan | 14142 comments Mod
Oh, if you only gave it 3 stars, perhaps not then, Nigeyb.


message 474: by Nigeyb (new)

Nigeyb | 15796 comments Mod
Plenty of four star reviews too, including Alwynne


It's v quick to read and, despite the three stars, plenty to discuss as I mention above


message 475: by Susan (new)

Susan | 14142 comments Mod
I will probably just read it as and when then. A lack of 5 stars suggests not the best idea for a buddy read.


message 476: by Nigeyb (last edited Feb 03, 2022 03:38AM) (new)

Nigeyb | 15796 comments Mod
Fair enough. The trouble with rating everything is we lose a lot of nuance


Despite finding it flawed, there's lots to discuss and it's a book rich in ideas and atmosphere. I may choose it for my own real world book group.


message 477: by Susan (new)

Susan | 14142 comments Mod
True, Nigeyb. However, I often feel guilty suggesting buddy read and worry whether people will enjoy them, which makes me hesitant.


message 478: by Nigeyb (new)

Nigeyb | 15796 comments Mod
I understand. It's far from essential


message 479: by Roman Clodia (new)

Roman Clodia | 11834 comments Mod
Nigeyb and I have been discussing a buddy read of The Gilded Gutter Life of Francis Bacon, possibly in May but date to be confirmed - would anyone like to join us?

Rated just over 4 stars on here:

Widely regarded as the best British painter since Turner, very little is known about Francis Bacon's life. In this, the first-ever book to be written about him, Daniel Farson, friend and confidant to Bacon for over forty years, gives a highly personal, first-hand account of the man as he knew him. From his sexual adventures to his rise from obscurity to international fame, Farson gives us unique insight into Bacon's genius.


I went to the intense and powerful Bacon exhibition at the RA this week (www.royalacademy.org.uk/exhibition/fr...) which I'd highly recommend if you have the chance and came away desperate to know more about the man and artist.

Farson knew Bacon personally and was part of the Soho group - the book looks fascinating.


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Brian E Reynolds | 1125 comments I see that we have started scheduling Buddy reads for July 2022. As I first mentioned during the Buddy read of Celia Fremlin's The Jealous One, I suggest the following Celia Fremlin buddy reads:

1) July - Seven Lean Years (Fremlin #3)
2) September or October - The Trouble Makers (Fremlin #4)

Susan wanted to read her remaining Fremlins in order and Jill wanted to read The Trouble Makers having already read Seven Lean Years, which she considered a less than great Fremlin. I'm game to read more Fremlin and would like to read both books.


message 481: by Susan (new)

Susan | 14142 comments Mod
Sounds good to me, Brian.


message 482: by Nigeyb (new)

Nigeyb | 15796 comments Mod
Very tempted but Seven Lean Years is a tenner for Kindle and more for physical, and not in my library


The Trouble Makers is £7.50 on Kindle and also not in the library though I can see a second hand copy for £6 on eBay

I love Celia Fremlin but will keep an eye on prices before committing myself. I don't mind paying top dollar for books but with so many other books already purchased it does influence my decision making

Put me down as a maybe


message 483: by Roman Clodia (new)

Roman Clodia | 11834 comments Mod
I'm in for more Fremlin


message 484: by Nigeyb (new)

Nigeyb | 15796 comments Mod
I've added both to the schedule - can change if necessary


Not set up threads or added to the bookshelf though


message 485: by Brian E (new)

Brian E Reynolds | 1125 comments Nigeyb wrote: "Very tempted but Seven Lean Years is a tenner for Kindle and more for physical, and not in my library
The Trouble Makers is £7.50 on Kindle and also not in the lib..."


In the U.S., Seven Lean Years is available only in the more expensive Faber edition: Seven Lean Years by Celia Fremlin while The Trouble Makers The Trouble Makers by Celia Fremlin is one of the major Fremlins that Faber has available in its cheaper edition. It is currently $6.35, over 50% off. on Amazon, but the cheapest I have found Seven Lean Years is $16.99.
I just bought both books and anticipate more 'buddies' participating in The Trouble Makers read, including Nigeyb who, my crystal ball shows, will shell out the money for The Trouble Makers but not Seven Lean Years.


message 486: by Nigeyb (new)

Nigeyb | 15796 comments Mod
Mystic Brian strikes again - love it


:-)


message 487: by Susan (new)

Susan | 14142 comments Mod
Knowing how authors keep vanishing from kindle, I am pacing myself and downloading one now and again. I learnt my lesson with Christianna Brand and Jane Haddam, both of who vanished from kindle while I was collecting them - luckily, I downloaded all of Brand's titles, as they have vanished again in the UK...


message 488: by Roman Clodia (new)

Roman Clodia | 11834 comments Mod
I've been seeing the Faber Finds editions of Fremlin in Oxfam/second hand bookshops quite a lot so worth keeping your eye out for them.


message 489: by Nigeyb (new)

Nigeyb | 15796 comments Mod
Top tip


Thanks RC 🤠


message 490: by Roman Clodia (new)

Roman Clodia | 11834 comments Mod
Some of us have been talking about re-reading the Slough House series by Mick Herron, the latest being Bad Actors, out this week.

Susan has kindly listed them here including the novellas:

1. Slow Horses (2010)
2. Dead Lions (2013)
2.5. The List (2015)
2.6 Nobody Walks
3. Real Tigers (2016)
4. Spook Street (2017)
5. London Rules (2018)
5.5. The Drop (2018)
6. Joe Country (2019)
6.5. The Catch (2020)
7. Slough House (2021)
8. Bad Actors (2022)

We're thinking of taking them as a book every two months so it will take roughly two years, hopefully just in time for the next book.

Post here if you'd like to join us - and it's no problem if this is a first read for you.


message 491: by Nigeyb (new)

Nigeyb | 15796 comments Mod
Yeah, go on then you silver tongued temptress 🪩👨🏻‍🎤👌🏻🤠


message 492: by Pamela (new)

Pamela (bibliohound) | 555 comments Yep count me in!


message 493: by Adina (new)

Adina I’m in as well


message 494: by Sid (new)

Sid Nuncius | 596 comments I'm definitely in.


message 495: by Brian E (last edited May 16, 2022 11:24AM) (new)

Brian E Reynolds | 1125 comments I've seen the posts discussing Herron and books like Bad Actors and had no idea of the books that you were talking about, deciding to slough it all off as a Brit thing. However, RC's post on the book series let's me know that the first book, Slow Horses, is the title of the new miniseries with Gary Olman and Olivia Cooke, so now I get what its all about.
While I'm not sure that spy books are for me, LeCarre's books are just meh to me, I am attracted by this series' concept and that the series ratings get better after the first two. So a definite maybe


message 496: by Susan (new)

Susan | 14142 comments Mod
A definite yes!


message 497: by Susan (new)

Susan | 14142 comments Mod
Not sure if anyone would be interested but I am also keen to read Charlie M Charlie M by Brian Freemantle which I have heard a lot about.

A cagey British spy fights enemies from without and withinCharlie Muffin is an anachronism. He came into the intelligence service in the early 1950s, when the government, desperate for foot soldiers in the impending Cold War, dipped into the middle class for the first time. Despite a lack of upper-class bearing, Charlie survived twenty-five years on the espionage battle’s front line: Berlin. But times have changed: The boys from Oxford and Cambridge are running the shop again, and they want to get rid of the middle-class spy who’s a thorn in their side. They have decided that it’s time for Charlie to be sacrificed. But Charlie Muffin didn’t survive two decades in Berlin by being a pushover. He intends to go on protecting the realm, and won’t let anyone from his own organization get in his way. This ebook features an illustrated biography of Brian Freemantle including rare photos from the author’s personal collection.

If not, absolutely fine, I will just add it to my own personal reads, but thought while we were on a spy kick, someone might want to give it a go.


message 498: by Jill (new)

Jill (dogbotsmum) | 802 comments I have the Charlie Muffin books, so would be willing to give the first one a try


message 499: by Susan (new)

Susan | 14142 comments Mod
Hurrah! Anyone else interested?


message 500: by Pamela (new)

Pamela (bibliohound) | 555 comments I’d be up for Charlie M too, sounds good


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