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Peepal Tree reissued his first two novels (Black Midas and The Wild Coast) in 2009 so they should be widely available.
Anyways, I've been meaning to dig into some more foundational Caribbean lit and thought these might be good entry points.
I'd definitely be interested in reading some Caribbean literature, David, but neither of those two suggestions really grabbed me.
I'd love to read something by Jamaica Kincaid. Or, and you may already have read these, Marlon James' The Book of Night Women or maybe his A Brief History of Seven Killings.
Or something by Kei Miller who is fantastic - I've read his Augustown but nothing else.
And I recently went to a reading given by Olive Senior and was so impressed that I bought her Hurricane Watch: New and Collected Poems - talking to people there, she's been writing poetry for years that anyone who grew up and went to school in Jamaica will recognise as part of their memory. Would we be interested in reading a book of poetry? She also has collections of short stories.
I'd love to read something by Jamaica Kincaid. Or, and you may already have read these, Marlon James' The Book of Night Women or maybe his A Brief History of Seven Killings.
Or something by Kei Miller who is fantastic - I've read his Augustown but nothing else.
And I recently went to a reading given by Olive Senior and was so impressed that I bought her Hurricane Watch: New and Collected Poems - talking to people there, she's been writing poetry for years that anyone who grew up and went to school in Jamaica will recognise as part of their memory. Would we be interested in reading a book of poetry? She also has collections of short stories.

I hadn't heard of Sylvia Wynter but Hills of Hebron sounds interesting as well.
How about Annie John by Jamaica Kincaid to start and we could schedule something else, maybe Hebron, later?
I'll be reading Hurricane Watch and Book of Night Women anyway, and always great to have company.
Who else is interested in joining us?
Annie John:
The Hills of Hebron:
That mention of Bedwardism is interesting as it's also part of Kei Miller's Augustown mentioned above.
How about Annie John by Jamaica Kincaid to start and we could schedule something else, maybe Hebron, later?
I'll be reading Hurricane Watch and Book of Night Women anyway, and always great to have company.
Who else is interested in joining us?
Annie John:
The island of Antigua is a magical place: growing up there should be a sojourn in paradise for young Annie John. But, as in the basket of green figs carried on her mother's head, there is a snake hidden somewhere within. Annie John begins by adoring her beautiful mother, but inexplicably she comes to hate her. Adolescence takes this brilliant, headstrong girl into open rebellions and secret discoveries and finally to a crisis of emotions that wrenches her away from her island home.
The Hills of Hebron:
Written in the late 1950s on the cusp of Jamaica’s independence from Britain, The Hills of Hebron tells the story of a group of formerly enslaved Jamaicans as they attempt to create a new life and assert themselves against the colonial power. Strongly anti-colonial, the novel depicts Hebron as a Revivalist community embracing Afro-Caribbean religious practices and gives voice to the social forces of that period in Jamaican and Caribbean history. Based on the early twentieth century Bedwardism movement (a revivalist group led by Alexander Bedward), The Hills of Hebron was one of the first attempts to present the lives of black Jamaicans not as colonial subjects, but as independent human beings.
That mention of Bedwardism is interesting as it's also part of Kei Miller's Augustown mentioned above.
Ooh, what about this? The Ventriloquist's Tale by Pauline Melville:
Sounds fabulous!
"Where I come from, disguise is the only truth and desire the only true measure of time," the riddling, feisty narrator of The Ventriloquist's Tale asserts. Pauline Melville explores the effects of both of these in her dark--and often deeply funny--narrative of forbidden love and the clash of cultures. Set in the Guyanese capitol of Georgetown and on its distant savannahs, Melville's first novel turns on the tragic absurdities of colonialism, capitalism, and fanaticism, not to mention a pair of very illicit relationships. In the 1920s, two mixed-race siblings find it surprisingly easy to be together and unsuspected:
Just like the brown and black patterns in the artwork on the woven baskets and sifters and matapees, where it is not always possible to tell foreground from background and the animal symbols are disguised by being embedded in a geometrical whole, Beatrice and Danny were miraculously concealed by their home setting.
In the present-day strand, Chofy McKinnon, Danny's nephew, has an intense and tragic affair with Rosa Mendelson, an English academic looking into Evelyn Waugh's journey to Guyana in the 1930s. Waugh, possessed of "a pushed-up face and little pebble eyes," had stayed with the McKinnons, and forced Danny in particular to listen to hour after hour of Dombey and Son--a brilliant spin on Waugh's reportage from the Amazonias, not to mention his novel A Handful of Dust. Melville offers up an acute vision on Guyana's colonial past and present, and on the pull between nature and culture, superstition versus rationalism, blindness and sight. She knows that there is no easy middle ground, perhaps no middle ground at all. "You say we have to mix," Chofy's cousin cries. "What to do? We're destroyed if we mix. And we're destroyed if we don't."
Readers will be hard-pressed to descry any moral in the astonishing Ventriloquist's Tale (though order and institutions aren't held in high esteem). As for forbidden love--it definitely doesn't conquer all, but its memory is bliss in Beatrice's later, respectable years: "She barely had time to remember that other love which had flowed always under the grind of daily life; a sweet underground river that sometimes broke through to the surface and made its own music, but mainly stayed hidden, so that she only carried the echoes of its song."
Sounds fabulous!


One of my very favorite books and the one I most often give as a gift is The Bridge of Beyond.


I would also be up for The Ventriloquist's Tale and The Bridge of Beyond

I would also be up for The Ventriloquist's Tale and The Bridge of Beyond"
Great. Except for June anytime works for me. I will follow other people lead.

I would read anything by Kei Miller that I could get my hands on. I loved Augustown, and also haven't read anything else of his.
I might be interested in both The Book of Night Women and Annie John. This is a wonderful theme!
Sounds like there are a group of us keen on Annie John so let's say that's a definite. When would suit everyone?
We don't have many buddies confirmed for autumn so how about October?
We have other ideas floating around with various levels of support so if anyone is desperate to read something do say and we'll see who else is definite for a buddy.
I'm also interested in reading more Caribbean literature so am more than happy to schedule in other books this and next year. Thanks, David, for starting this conversation.
We don't have many buddies confirmed for autumn so how about October?
We have other ideas floating around with various levels of support so if anyone is desperate to read something do say and we'll see who else is definite for a buddy.
I'm also interested in reading more Caribbean literature so am more than happy to schedule in other books this and next year. Thanks, David, for starting this conversation.


I'm in for Annie John in October, if that's what works. I'll be in for some of the others too.

What about November for The Bridge of Beyond?
We have 3 people that wants to read it. And I may have missed some.
To summarise, this is where I think we are:
Annie John confirmed for October
Bridge of Beyond: Lorraine, Ben, Wendy - November?
Book of Night Women: RC, Wendy?, Kathleen? David - March?
Ventriloquist's Tale: RC, Ben, David - January?
Is this correct? Any other takers? Comments on projected dates? Do we want to spread these out a bit more?
With buddy reads, we don't need a mod to be involved and I'm happy to set up the thread for Bridge of Beyond but it would be good if someone takes on the role of lead, including firming up a date and starting the discussion when the time comes.
I'd also ask for some level of commitment as I don't want to set up threads and then no-one reads the book when it comes round. For buddies, we only need two people so these can all go ahead assuming that commitment. Better to pull out now if you're unsure😏
Annie John confirmed for October
Bridge of Beyond: Lorraine, Ben, Wendy - November?
Book of Night Women: RC, Wendy?, Kathleen? David - March?
Ventriloquist's Tale: RC, Ben, David - January?
Is this correct? Any other takers? Comments on projected dates? Do we want to spread these out a bit more?
With buddy reads, we don't need a mod to be involved and I'm happy to set up the thread for Bridge of Beyond but it would be good if someone takes on the role of lead, including firming up a date and starting the discussion when the time comes.
I'd also ask for some level of commitment as I don't want to set up threads and then no-one reads the book when it comes round. For buddies, we only need two people so these can all go ahead assuming that commitment. Better to pull out now if you're unsure😏

I'm a possible but it will be a spontaneous thing rather than planned
Having just finished the Pym biog by Paula Byrne I'm up for more Pym. I'll post on the Barbara Pym favourite authors thread about that to see if there are any takers
Having just finished the Pym biog by Paula Byrne I'm up for more Pym. I'll post on the Barbara Pym favourite authors thread about that to see if there are any takers
I've updated the our list of all reads with the new buddy reads...
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
Here's how it now looks....
June 2023
The Followers by Rebecca Wait (Group Read)
The Drop (novella) by Mick Herron (Slough House #5.5) (Buddy Read)
Joe Country by Mick Herron (Slough House #6) (Buddy Read)
Some Tame Gazelle by Barbara Pym (Buddy Read)
A View of the Harbour by Elizabeth Taylor (Buddy Read)
July 2023
English Journey by J.B. Priestley (Group Read)
Dolphin Junction: Stories (Slough House #6.4) by Mick Herron (Buddy Read)
The Catch (Slough House #6.5) by Mick Herron (Novella) (Buddy Read)
Slough House (Slough House #7) by Mick Herron (Buddy Read)
I, Claudius by Robert Graves (Buddy Read)
The Full English by Stuart Maconie (Buddy Read)
The Adventures of Miss Barbara Pym by Paula Byrne (Buddy Read)
August 2023
Bad Actors (Slough House #8) by Mick Herron (Buddy Read)
The House in Paris by Elizabeth Bowen (Buddy Read)
The Godfather by by Mario Puzo (Buddy Read)
The Makioka Sisters by Jun'ichirō Tanizaki (Buddy Read)
September 2023
The Rules of Engagement by Anita Brookner (Buddy Read)
The House of Dudley: A New History of Tudor England by Joanne Paul (Buddy Read)
The Love-charm of Bombs: Restless Lives in the Second World War by Lara Feigel (Buddy Read)
October 2023
The Constant Nymph by Margaret Kennedy (Buddy read)
Annie John by Jamaica Kincaid (Buddy read)
November 2023
The Little Girls by Elizabeth Bowen (Buddy Read)
Bridge of Beyond by Simone Schwarz-Bart (Buddy Read)
December 2023
The Towers of Trebizond by Rose Macaulay (Buddy Read)
January 2024
The Midnight Bell by Patrick Hamilton (Buddy Read)
Ventriloquist's Tale by Pauline Melville (Buddy Read)
February 2024
Loving by Henry Green (Buddy Read)
March 2024
The Siege of Pleasure by Patrick Hamilton (Buddy Read)
Book of Night Women by Marlon James (Buddy Read)
April 2024
Living by Henry Green (Buddy Read)
May 2024
The Plains of Cement by Patrick Hamilton (Buddy Read)
June 2024
Party Going by Henry Green (Buddy Read)
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
Here's how it now looks....
June 2023
The Followers by Rebecca Wait (Group Read)
The Drop (novella) by Mick Herron (Slough House #5.5) (Buddy Read)
Joe Country by Mick Herron (Slough House #6) (Buddy Read)
Some Tame Gazelle by Barbara Pym (Buddy Read)
A View of the Harbour by Elizabeth Taylor (Buddy Read)
July 2023
English Journey by J.B. Priestley (Group Read)
Dolphin Junction: Stories (Slough House #6.4) by Mick Herron (Buddy Read)
The Catch (Slough House #6.5) by Mick Herron (Novella) (Buddy Read)
Slough House (Slough House #7) by Mick Herron (Buddy Read)
I, Claudius by Robert Graves (Buddy Read)
The Full English by Stuart Maconie (Buddy Read)
The Adventures of Miss Barbara Pym by Paula Byrne (Buddy Read)
August 2023
Bad Actors (Slough House #8) by Mick Herron (Buddy Read)
The House in Paris by Elizabeth Bowen (Buddy Read)
The Godfather by by Mario Puzo (Buddy Read)
The Makioka Sisters by Jun'ichirō Tanizaki (Buddy Read)
September 2023
The Rules of Engagement by Anita Brookner (Buddy Read)
The House of Dudley: A New History of Tudor England by Joanne Paul (Buddy Read)
The Love-charm of Bombs: Restless Lives in the Second World War by Lara Feigel (Buddy Read)
October 2023
The Constant Nymph by Margaret Kennedy (Buddy read)
Annie John by Jamaica Kincaid (Buddy read)
November 2023
The Little Girls by Elizabeth Bowen (Buddy Read)
Bridge of Beyond by Simone Schwarz-Bart (Buddy Read)
December 2023
The Towers of Trebizond by Rose Macaulay (Buddy Read)
January 2024
The Midnight Bell by Patrick Hamilton (Buddy Read)
Ventriloquist's Tale by Pauline Melville (Buddy Read)
February 2024
Loving by Henry Green (Buddy Read)
March 2024
The Siege of Pleasure by Patrick Hamilton (Buddy Read)
Book of Night Women by Marlon James (Buddy Read)
April 2024
Living by Henry Green (Buddy Read)
May 2024
The Plains of Cement by Patrick Hamilton (Buddy Read)
June 2024
Party Going by Henry Green (Buddy Read)

(Some of those dates need to change to 2024 though, Nigeyb. Hard to believe that's around the corner!)
Cross-posting from The Midnight Bell:
It feels like months away but as we're nominating for our September group read, I wonder if anyone is interested in a Victober buddy: reading a Victorian novel for October? I know there are dedicated groups for this but thought it might be fun for us to do a mini version.
If there's interest we can set up a thread to discuss what to read.
It feels like months away but as we're nominating for our September group read, I wonder if anyone is interested in a Victober buddy: reading a Victorian novel for October? I know there are dedicated groups for this but thought it might be fun for us to do a mini version.
If there's interest we can set up a thread to discuss what to read.

It feels like months away but as we're nominating for our September group read, I wonder if anyone is interested in a Victober buddy: reading a Victorian nove..."
I usually try to read some Vic Lit in October. Currently have Trollope's Lady Anna, two books from Mrs Oliphant's Carlingford Chronicles and Red Pottage by Mary Chomondeley on my TBR pile, but would be up for something different, ideally not a chunker.


It was published in 1899 toward the end of the Victorian era so is can almost be considered a 20th century read while still maintaining its Victorian bona-fides. Mary Cholmondeley published 1/2 her novels in the 20th Century. (6 out of 12). It is not as long as many Victorian novels as the Virago Modern classic edition

I've read 20+ novels by Trollope and 3 out of the 6 (technically 4 out of 7) of the Carlingford series and would enjoy trying a new novelist that I've heard good things about; an author I could describe as both a Victorian author and a 20th Century author.
I would join in for Lady Anna too. I just checked and it's the most popular Trollope novel I haven't yet read. At 560 pages, its a step up in length from Red Pottage though. It would depend on which Carlingford series book was chosen for me to decide whether to join in a read.

Yay, definitely enough of us to do Victober: I'd be happy to read Red Pottage. I haven't read any of the Carlingford books so would happily add at least one if we can agree which. I am also wondering about Charlotte Mary Yonge, Mary Elizabeth Braddon. Will do some investigating later and pop back.
Don't forget, you don't need a mod to go ahead with a buddy and I can set up a thread for you: so I'm not sure about Lady Anna but Brian and Sonia, you could go ahead if you wish.
Don't forget, you don't need a mod to go ahead with a buddy and I can set up a thread for you: so I'm not sure about Lady Anna but Brian and Sonia, you could go ahead if you wish.
On editions, don't forget Project Gutenberg and those complete Delphi compilations.
There are some Elizabeth Gaskell books I haven't read yet, and I was wondering about short stories as quite a few Victorian writers contributed gothic/ghost stories : The Virago Book of Victorian Ghost Stories.
There are some Elizabeth Gaskell books I haven't read yet, and I was wondering about short stories as quite a few Victorian writers contributed gothic/ghost stories : The Virago Book of Victorian Ghost Stories.


I'd certainly be up for a rw-read; it was a long time ago that I first read it, and it would be interesting to read with others.
Excellent, fellow Victoberians! I've set up a thread here for Red Pottage and we can see how we go and if we want to slip in another title closer to the time:
www.goodreads.com/topic/show/22550980...
Just beware, as some of the blurbs are very spoilery!
www.goodreads.com/topic/show/22550980...
Just beware, as some of the blurbs are very spoilery!

Great. I was optimistic and bought a Kindle version last night. Only $.99 and I knew I'd read it someday. There's a freebie too but I will pay $.99 for more accurate and real page numbers.
I've just INKed it on my calendar for VictOctober. It's my 5th scheduled read that month alongside two for this group:
The Constant Nymph by Margaret Kennedy
Annie John by Jamaica Kincaid
and the beginning of 2 three month reads in the NTLTRC group:
The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists by Robert Tressell and
Fortunes of War: The Balkan Trilogy by Olivia Manning a book I nominated based on an interest ignited by a discussion of it a few years ago in this group
Roman Clodia: I'd be interested in a buddy read of A Spell of Winter if anyone else is keen?
Susan: I would be happy to read A Spell of Winter in October or November? I think September will be really busy for me.
Kathleen: I would love to read A Spell of Winter too, and October or November sounds perfect for me.
Just copying the above from the nominations thread: if anyone else would like to join a buddy read of A Spell of Winter by Helen Dunmore, let us know here.
I've scheduled it for November as we already have three buddy reads in October.
Susan: I would be happy to read A Spell of Winter in October or November? I think September will be really busy for me.
Kathleen: I would love to read A Spell of Winter too, and October or November sounds perfect for me.
Just copying the above from the nominations thread: if anyone else would like to join a buddy read of A Spell of Winter by Helen Dunmore, let us know here.
I've scheduled it for November as we already have three buddy reads in October.

I'd love to read Kiss of the Spider Woman - and possibly Pedro Paramo as well, will check out the look inside.

Great! Let's see if anyone else wants to join.
I've seen Pedro Páramo credited as inspiration for One Hundred Years of Solitude, but also a classic in its own right.
Kiss of the Spider Woman might also be fun if anyone is keen. (Edit: Glad you can join, RC. I missed your last message when I first posted this.)
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For you Brits, on March 23, 1775, American patriot Patrick Henry famously said "Give me liberty, or give me death!" in a speech to convince the State of Virginia to pass a resolution delivering Virginian troops for the Revolutionary War to help unshackle America from its British chains.
So this read of two British authors will be an apt way to remember our American patriot Patrick Henry.