Foundation and Empire (Foundation, #2) Foundation and Empire question


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Links between "The Mule and The Donald
Mark Balson Mark Mar 06, 2018 06:28PM
Does anyone else see similarities between the Mule and a certain President in office. Suck as the Mule was physically weak, physically he was a coward, he is concerned only with his own welfare, shows little or no empathy towards others. Both operate to create an empire of personality and use a an ability to hide the truth and to manipulate it to build fierce loyalty. The closer I look the more surprised I am at congruencies between The Mule and The Donald. Do others see this and if so can you see other more subtile similarities.

I would love to hear the thoughts of others.



This is missing the point of the book. This "certain president in office" is completely a product of the times, the culmination of a long string of natural events which a skilled psychohistorian like Seldon would have been able to completely unravel. If this were the Foundation, there might be a Seldon crisis coming up, and then we'll get another holographic movie of Seldon explaining what it was all about.

The Mule is the exact opposite of this: a narcissistic personality who manages to take power at a moment in history when such personalities should not be able to take power due to another crisis sobering people up to what's actually going on.


Hmmm, I see your point and agree!


I'm not so sure that there are any similarities, no. The Mule actually made changes in people's behavior whereas fascism and white supremacist hatred has been the primary motivational factor of the Republican Party since the 1964 passage of the Civil Rights Act. The Mule created, the Republican Russian traitor manipulated what was already there, so there's a lot of difference at core.


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