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I have seen it and it his hilarious. As for Deadpool's girlfriend, just stay until the hidden scenes at the end of the credits have played. Those scenes are very important for the plot, as well as being also hilarious.

Just got back from the theater. Would see the movie again for sure. Be careful to sit through the credits.

Loved the sequence where DP recruited all those second-tier superheroes, arranged a parachute drop, and (view spoiler)[ then they all immediately died (except Domino, who was awesome) (hide spoiler)].
The part where Juggernaut (view spoiler)[ ripped DP in two and then he had to regrow his whole lower body (hide spoiler)] was also good - basically over-the-top gross humour is what DP does best.
Hated the Vanessa storyline, (view spoiler)[ killing her straight after they started planning a family (hide spoiler)] was an awful choice on so many levels - a boring, lazy, problematic, and utterly stereotypical trope. There were a few other bits I thought were lazy too - and no, having your protagonist break the 4th wall to say 'well that's just lazy writing!' doesn't make it OK.
And yeah, sure, they used the timey-wimey thing to (view spoiler)[ reverse the fridging of both Vanessa and Cable's family, but you know what would have been even better? Not fridging in them in the first place, and coming up with a more interesting idea instead. (hide spoiler)]

I liked the cameos.

The Matt Damon "you'll never actually recognize him" cameo, along with Alan Tudyk, who I did recognize even though he had one line.

And the "blink and you'll miss it" Brad Pitt cameo.

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Ruth - I totally agree with the lazy writing thing. Hanging a lampshade on it is amusing and all, but doesn't stop it from being lazy writing.

Exactly! I loved this movie, I really did, but it had some of the weakest plot ever.

First, they (view spoiler)[fridged the wife. I get it was a trope reversal, but it lasted for the whole movie, it was essentially a fridging, even if they were trying to pretend, "it doesn't really count, look we brought her back!" (hide spoiler)] Uh, yeah. It does count.

And then there was the whole dumb (view spoiler)[time travel thing. That was a stupid and lazy explanation for how his time travel device worked, and not only that, but he went back in time to save Deadpool? Deadpool, guys. He's practically invincible. Why would he need saving? All they have to do is after he gets shot, have Colossus rip the metal collar off his throat. He'll heal. Or if we're pretending like Colossus isn't strong enough for that (which, let's face it, is dumb), then all he'd have to do is replay exactly what happened in the second timeline, just this time with a bullet in his heart. He couldn't have sat up and let Domino guess the unlock number the first time around? His pretending to die dramatically somehow prevented Domino's luck powers from working? Or just prevented anyone from rubbing two brain cells together? (hide spoiler)]

And don't get me started on the X-Force members (view spoiler)[fates. It's like they were trying to piss off long time comic readers. I guess if you never read the comics, it wouldn't mean anything to you, but those were genuine comic book characters (some with very rich histories and backgrounds) that they were just butchering wholesale for no reason other than bloody comedy "fun". (hide spoiler)]

Sorry for the long rant, but just because your movie is funny, does not give you the right to crap all over your plot. This is exactly how I felt about the 2nd Guardians. They rode the comedy wave high after the first one and it was all downhill from there. The comedic beats were all beautiful and hilarious, but there were so many plot holes (or idiocies), it brought the whole tone of the movie down with it.

I went to see it and and it didn't entertain that much, dialog was pretty good, and Josh Brolin was the movie for me.

I kept thinking if Marvel should ever brings DEATHLOK The Demolisher to the big screen Brolin would be my choice to play the part.

It was funny but maybe not as hilarious-I-almost-choked-on-my-popcorn as the first movie. I did like the mid credit scene.

Also, watching this with a bunch of Gen Z teenagers in the theater made me feel super old. I think I was the only one who understood the John Hughes reference in one of the scenes.

Michel wrote: "I have seen it and it his hilarious. As for Deadpool's girlfriend, just stay until the hidden scenes at the end of the credits have played. Those scenes are very important for the plot, as well as ..."

Maybe I’m just old school, but one doesn’t bury important story points in a movie’s stinger. That’s like getting to the end of a book and after the acknowledgements, author bio, and typeface note you finish the story.

Fridging the love interest is lazy.

Trike wrote: "Maybe I’m just old school, but one doesn’t bury important story points in a movie’s stinger. That’s like getting to the end of a book and after the acknowledgements, author bio, and typeface note you finish the story.. "


I agree. Some people apparently haven't learned to stay for the credit-scenes yet, and missed the whole thing.

I'm convinced it's worth seeing on the big screen Now.

They shouldn't have (view spoiler)[fridged the girlfriend, no (hide spoiler)]. But everyone who goes to any Marvel movie these days should know to stay after the credits. That's Marvel 101.

Don wrote: "I'm convinced it's worth seeing on the big screen Now."

I see all the Marvel/DC/Star Wars, and other's at the big screen and If at all possible the IMAX2D.

Jolinda wrote: "They shouldn't have [spoilers removed]. But everyone who goes to any Marvel movie these days should know to stay after the credits. That's Marvel 101."

Deadpool isn’t a Marvel movie, though.

It’s a Marvel *character* but a Fox movie. Only Marvel/Disney movies universally have stingers.

Trike wrote: "Jolinda wrote: "They shouldn't have [spoilers removed]. But everyone who goes to any Marvel movie these days should know to stay after the credits. That's Marvel 101."

Deadpool isn’t a Marvel movi..."

The first Deadpool movie had a stinger (a great callback to a classic). My rule is always to look it up before leaving, but I default to watching credits for all comic book and all comedies.

Trike wrote: "Deadpool isn’t a Marvel movie, though.

It’s a Marvel *character* but a Fox movie. Only Marvel/Disney movies universally have stingers."

X-Men Apocalypse, Deadpool, X-Men Days of Future Past, The Wolverine, Wolverine: Origins, X-Men Last Stand...

In fact, the only ones to not have a post-credit scene in recent years was First Class and Logan. I say in recent years because they did not do that in "ye olden days," aka when they first came out in the early 2000s. MCU started the tradition with Iron Man and Fox followed quickly behind, probably due to FOMO.

So yes, Marvel movie 101 (I did not say MCU--Deadpool is still a Marvel movie whether it is done by MCU or not) is that there will nearly always be a post credits scene. This is not new.

Jolinda wrote: "Trike wrote: "Deadpool isn’t a Marvel movie, though.

It’s a Marvel *character* but a Fox movie. Only Marvel/Disney movies universally have stingers."

In fact, the only ones to not have a post-credit scene in recent years was First Class and Logan. ."

The Fantastic Four and the two Amazing Spider-man movies didn’t, either. Or the Ghost Riders, come to think of it. I don’t recall if there was a stinger in The Wolverine, but then I saw 3 different versions.

I went yesterday and it was absolutely hilarious. I liked it just as much, if not more than the first one. I honestly don't care about plot holes or dumb things in the story. It's Deadpool. The plot is just a vehicle for the humor, action, and ridiculousness. I know some people think it's a cop out to (view spoiler)[ fridge Vanessa, and then make fun of themselves for it, but it worked for me. (hide spoiler)] In my opinion, they are playing to Deadpool's strengths by doing over the top tropes like (view spoiler)[fridging and ridiculous time travel. There were so many other ways they could have handled Deadpool coming back to life, that when Cable went back just for that it actually made it funnier to me. They could have probably just taken off his collar after he died, but they did something that didn't really make sense, and I just took it in stride with all of the other crazy things that happened during the movie (hide spoiler)].

That being said, I'm pretty easy to please when it comes to movies, so I understand some things that didn't bother me might have been annoying to others. I was just happy to have another Deadpool, and I will probably be seeing it again.

My sons didn't get to watch either Deadpool film due to the rating, but Once Upon a Deadpool fixed that. I took them to see the film. Both loved it. I also had fun with all the Princess Bride references. Overall, I like the pure R-rated version, but I feel everyone should give the Fred Savage version at least one viewing.