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Oct 17, 2018 03:03PM
Fun. I was gonna podcast that. Did you find Jesus in every book?
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A worthy task! Many will thank you for it.
24 Tina,, I'm sure LIKE every body else you have John the Baptist as Elijah which is wrong, or Elijah as one of the two witnesses in Revelation which is wrong, or Elijah as meeting the criterion in the transfiguration which is wrong. John the Baptist said he was not Elijah, and he said NO but No is to complicated for the preachers also, they can't understand NO they just fly around in their airplanes working for Satan.
Do you have a favourite book of the Bible? Philemon and Ecclesiastes were always mine. (And Luke).
Jonah is fascinating, as is God speaking at length in Job.
God bless you Tina.I'd say women are not to be teaching Men in the church building Jonathan. And this sure ain't no church.
I wouldn't classify educational offerings as interfering with church STRUCTURES and AUTHORITY. Can women be theologians and share? I sure hope so. Or Jesus should have sent Mary back to the Kitchen.
I had Swindoll, MacArthur, and James White. With a lifetime drip of Joni Eareckson-Tada.
You're pretty demanding Jonathan. She's not a professional hired teacher who claims to be an expert at all your whims. Give her some time. Maybe even help the issue roll out. Show possible views.
You're onto something but I think the scriptures need to well shown. I'm fascinated by this topic.
Just off the top of my head, I thought the restriction precluded woman as pastors/elders or teachers because of the woman's role in the fall of man in the Garden (2 Timothy 2:12-14). This has grown to be a hot topic within the Church.
1 Timothy 2:12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.
Yes, but Where, Why, when, How and What?
Bible verses are seldom blanket statements with no context or purpose. I believe the New Testament addresses all of those concerns. Can a mother teach her son? Or have authority over her 2 year old toddler boy? Of course.
Can a girl sing in church? Of course.
Can a woman teach Sunday school to 5th graders? Now it gets complicated (maybe it shouldn't?). Many churches have men failing at these duties.
On the internet, most of the great theologians and apologists I meet are women. The men are often stupid or nowhere to be found.
Maybe Paul talking to Timothy in the first century is over- and God is raising up women? Not my problem. There's enough liberal churches teaching NO Gospel that this isn't even in my top 20 priorities.
But it's worth discussing. There are many great women in the bible. Their deeds should be pondered.
Good stuff folks.Honestly, I can't go to a church with a woman Pastor. Can you Tina? Just curious.
This issue has amused me for almost 40 years.1 Cor. 11:14
14 Does not nature itself teach you that if a man wears long hair it is a disgrace for him,
Keeps me on my toes as a Bible lover and theologian.
The point is:You need to read it in full context and application. Knee jerk responses are dangerous.
And I'm possibly like Samson. But I'm always questioning
It's NOT simply about hair quantity or mileage.
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My response: How CAN a Christian obey the 10 Commandments, when we are DEAD? Can a dead man obey?
Galatians 2:20 - "I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me..."
Luke 9:23 - "And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily , and follow me."
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My response: Have you heard NOT I... but Christ?
I have come to the conclusion that...
...100% of the time that I do glorify God - it is NOT me... but Jesus!
...100% of the time that I do not glorify God - it is me... NOT Jesus!
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As for receiving from women... I have no problem, except when they usurp positions of spiritual authority / headship .
My favorite Bible school teacher was a woman.
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That's wonderful to hear."
My response: This is where I am...
1 Corinthians 11:3 - But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
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Not yet. But I will later. I doubt seriously that you will present anything new, as I have studied this subject in depth.
What do you find to be in error in this verse? As this is exactly what I believe.
1 Corinthians 11:3 - But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
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My response: First, I prefer to discuss Scripture.
Second, I cannot watch it now, as I am not accessible to do so.
Third, What do you find to be in error in this verse? As this is exactly what I believe.
1 Corinthians 11:3 - But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
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I watched the video...
What do you find to be in error in this verse? As this is exactly what I believe.
1 Corinthians 11:3 - But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
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I watched the video...
What do you find to be in error in this verse? As this is exactly what I believe.
1 Corinthians 11:3 - But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
Philosophically speaking, I think the lens we view scripture through is often colored by society and the sordidness of history. When I see the calling for men to step up in positions of spiritual authority, it's not to push women down - it's to build men up into the sons God made us to be. Unfortunately, so many men today are more interested in indulging their hobbies and ignore God's commands for a man's function - to be a model of Christ's sacrificial love. I was raised by a single mom, so the idea of misogyny is sickening. When I seek out reliable theological sources to review and learn from, the gender of the person is irrelevant. I know it's my job to step up, not push women down. God made women to be strong and to use that strength to help men. Unfortunately, arrogant men throughout history have viewed this as a way to suppress the strengths women have. After all, God pinned the blame of sin on Adam, didn't he?
Just my two cents.
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Spot on, Robert. And how did Jesus love us? Sacrificially. For God so agapeo (verb for sacrificially loved) the world ... The man is responsible to God. The woman must use her strength to build up the man so he can be a son of the kingdom. This about roles, not superiority. Mankind's version of ruling is different than God's version. That's my point.
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Sounds like we are in agreement.
I like this verse because God the Father and God the Son are CO-EQUALS with different jobs and one is the head... just like the man and women are co-equals with different jobs and one is the head.
Amen! Stepping outside of God's ordained roles is when humanism wreaks its havoc on biblical instructions. We're seeing a LOT of that today.
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Absolutely! And we easily see the havoc taking place.
"Office of overseer"Is that what the sign on the door Must say? There is no authority in simply discussing the Bible as a hobby or passion or career.
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My response: Agreed. Many people usurp spiritual authority/headship. None are right to do so. However, the quoted verse is speaking to specific headships.
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1 Corinthians 11:3 - But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
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My response: If I understand Rod correctly, I believe I agree.
Teaching the Bible... the presentation of truth... is NOT in question in my understanding.
My favorite teacher in Bible school was a woman. She held classroom authority, but she did not hold spiritual headship over anyone, and she would have acknowledged this.
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That is for sure!
112 Jonathan You said "the head of Christ is God," and that is what I believe. But, 99.99% of preachers will tell you it was God that died on the cross, and not His Son. A person can blespheme Jesus and God all they want to but not the Holy Ghost, why the difference. Jesus was a He, it reads the Holy Ghost is a He, and a seperate part of God. As they say on the street it is the only game in town . What that means is without it received in the mouth, after your born again I see no reason to believe salvation is received any other way. That is the way I received it thirty days after I was born again in a 1959 Ford traveling at about seventy miles an hour and born again at a gas station. That is what God thinks of Saint Peters Basilica or the church in Huston. Women are equal. Timothy was just running off at the gills just like they do in church, that is why I don't attend any. I hate these verses in Timothy, they never came from God,. My dad was drunk for about fifty years, after my mother divorced him. He was an Assembly of God Minister. The Moslims say women don't have a soul, that is convenient. when a person brings up the subject of hell. That could be why they have no problem being a Moslim.
Jesus used women as an equal, they were the first to see Him when He came out of the sepulcher.
Dad almost beat me to death when I was three years old, and my sister when she was about fourteen. My brother had migraine headache, and he told me that is why he whipped him so much, he thought he was trying to get out of work. All in the name of God at the time, before he became an alcoholic.
It is all trash from The Acts through Jude.
The behaviour of sinful humans has no bearing on the truth of God's Word. The more sin I see - the better Biblical Christianity looks and sounds.
124 Tina, how on God's earth can you or the educated preachers believe The Acts through Jude came from God? I know it is in the Bible but God couldn't protect what went in it. What was the difference of mankind 2,000 years ago and now? Every Tom Dick Joyce and Harry either have their own bibles out or they are working on them. When I received the Holy Ghost God put a nauseous felling on me, every time I started reading The Acts. (You say that is impossible)
God can make the planets but He can't remove a person's heart and replace it, (You say that is impossible)
Evidently when Adam and Eve disobayed God they must have contaminated their spirit because God said He would give mankind a new Spirit which is the Holy Ghost. (You say that is impossible)
The "Tree of Life" because Adam was not ready to receive it God protected it, and it was in the garden, but now it has been removed from the garden to being part of the salvation plan, it is now in the Paridise of God. Those that overcome the false doctrine in the churches, will be given it, after they have been born again, and received the Holy Ghost. St John 3:5 And or Ezekiel 36:26-27 And Revelation 2:7 (You say that is impossible)
When your born again you must believe on one of the miracles that Jesus did while He was on the earth in your heart. St John 14:11and 10 37-38 I believed in healing, (You say that is impossible) That is what it means to believe.
Jesus after He came out of the wilderness saw angels. In a Sunday School class in San Pedro, California I saw one angel toward the cealing of the church, and when it disappeared I blurted out,"The day of judgment is coming." (You say that is impossible)
"Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
Would you be happy if your son had the way to eternal life, and wrote a book, and died an aganizing death for mankind, People never read his book but a similar book that would only lead to destruction. That is why God has removed his saving Spirit from the churches. Joel 1:13 That is why i was redeemed at a gas station. (you say that is impossible)
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He also believes he is Elijah... even thought Jesus clearly states that John the Baptist was Elijah who was to come.
Tina wrote: "Mickey wrote: "124 Tina, how on God's earth can you or the educated preachers believe The Acts through Jude came from God? I know it is in the Bible but God couldn't protect what went in it. "So,..." Tina that is true but all the Gospels have verses that never came from God especialy the last chapters, and St John 3:16 the backbone of most all the Christian religions.
For now lets look at St John 3:16. "For God so loved the world" And it repented (grieved) the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart, Genesis 6:6 "that he gave his only begotten Son," The preachers will tell you it was God that died on the cross. God gave His son for righteousnes sake, Love has nothing to do with it, Leviticus proves that. . Paul makes a big issue out of love to distract the preachers, and there
are a lot that distracts the preachers.
"that whosoever believeth in him should not perish," Believe is another word that the preachers love, there is almost more money in believe then love. In St John 3"3-5 If your not born again and receive the Holy Ghost you will not enter into the kingdom of God. I found out it is physical as in Ezekiel 36:26-27 (If God wrote the verse He would have used SHALL instead of should) shall means there is no doubt it will happen, but should means it might not happen. In the 24th chapter of St Matthew it proves what I say.
"but have everlasting life" If God wrote the verse He would have used the word as He did in the 15th verse eternal. Eternal is more continues then everlasting.
So, somebody was trying to impress their grandkids it is a play on the 15th verse.
Luke can get a person in trouble. In the first chapter he throws around the Holy Ghost a lot, but Luke the Holy Ghost wasn't to be until after Jesus went to His Father in heaven, except Jesus received the Holy Ghost in the mouth when He was baptized by John. St Matthew 3:16 and St John 16:7
Mickey, are you the only person who’s ever received the Holy Spirit? Why does no one else report this divine heart transplant you speak of? Has no other man or woman alive turned to God with a penitent and lowly heart? Why did Christ die on the cross? If God didn’t love the world, why would its rebellion grieve Him?
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My response: That is because Mickey is DELUSIONAL!
Jesus tells us CLEARLY that being "born again" is SPIRITUAL and NOT physical!
John 3:6-7
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
Adam wrote: "Mickey, are you the only person who’s ever received the Holy Spirit? Why does no one else report this divine heart transplant you speak of? Has no other man or woman alive turned to God with a peni..." 131 1. Holy Ghost. As far as I know yes, I'm the only one, I haven't heard of any other person that has, and I don't understand it.when it is so obvious. When Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist it reads that Jesus came directly out of the water, and the heavens were opened unto Him. (If your totally submerged the mouth is opened first for air, and that is when the Holy Ghost went in His mouth.) It reads the Spirit of God came descending "like a dove" (that means a shall object went in His mouth) It never "lighting on Him" as it reads It happens so fast that is why those present got it wrong. St Matthew 3:16 The Holy Ghost is referred to as being inside you In St John 14:17 (shall be in you) 21 (manifest myself to him) 16 (abide =remain inside) forever. (and a new Spirit will I put within you) Ezekiel 36:26 and I will put my Spirit within you. Ezekiel 36:27
That which is born of the Flesh is Flesh. "A new heart also will I give you" Ezekiel 36:26
That which is born of the Spirit is spirit. "And I will put my Spirit within you" Ezekiel 36:27 (Holy Ghost)
After I received the new heart 30 days afterward I received the Holy Ghost after God put a vision of a preacher in trouble to get my mouth open. I was going to work in Los Angelos, California. It came through the windshield of a ford, and went in my mouth on the word boy. I said God help that BOY. 12/30/1968.
What does the preachers say about the Holy Ghost or Spirit? Paul said it was speaking in other tongues, so people run off at the mouth. The Acts 2:4
Peter said when you dunk them, they shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost, when Jesus said man can't do one thing for salvation only God can save a person. St Matthew 19:26:25 "Who then can be saved?" 26 With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible."
"A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven." St John 3:27
Then the preachers tell you when I say the sinner's prayer the Holy Ghost enters your body, which is a lie, and it guides you dally to money, a good looking husband with money, Give me money, and your bank account will get bigger then Mount Everest, the bank will have to build another barn to store it in.
Then Paul says walk in the Spirit. The problem is you haven't received the Spirit.
2>Why no one else? The salvation experience has been removed from the churches, because all they preach on is Paul. I received my new heart after I left an Alter in a protestant church at a gas station. 12/1/1968 at 9pm Joel 1:13 The churches have removed the Alters.
3. Pentant heart? Yes billions but the preachers say if you want it raise your hand, and I will give it to you. They don't sit on the back seat of the church over two months like I did. I felt like there was something wrong with the sinners prayer and I was right. Billy Graham said he went down and joined the choir to scope out the girls. When I was a child going to church I had felt the convictive spirit, and that was what I was looking for when I was 31 years old, after smoking sense 12 and drinking at 14 in the bars going to high school.
4. Why did Jesus die on the cross? In all of Leviticus it was not about love, it was to maintain the righteousness of God. " Seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; St Matthew 6:33 (The kingdom of God is the new heart) and his righteousness is the Holy Ghost.
God destroyed all but eight in Noah's day. He destroyed Sodum and Gumurrah because there was not ten that was righteous. Some of the wars over the Jews it reads God killed more then anyone else. At the end time in chapter 24 of St Matthew when stars will bounce off you head, where is all this love, or is it about the money? There is no money in the truth.
Why would man's rebellion grive him? I believe God loves the world, and it reads perhaps only those that become redeemed, that is what it reads in St John 14:21 Take your blindfold off and look at what is going on with people all over the earth. The different religions, famine, wars, drugs, hate, enought wapons to destroy the earth twice, unless you say everybody is saved a person can't get any truth out to the public I have tried, they just call me crazy, and I have been at it for fifty years. The main stream publishers, and news papers will only print lies or fiction. Why would Satan help me, when there are only two kinds of people on the earth? St John 8:38=47
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Matthew 11:13-14
13 For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John.
14 And if you are willing to accept it, he is the Elijah who was to come.
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Mickey is NOT willing to ACCEPT what Jesus said!
Tina wrote: "Mickey wrote: "1. Holy Ghost. As far as I know yes, I'm the only one, I haven't heard of any other person that has, and I don't understand it.when it is so obvious."And what are you doing with th..."
Tina there were two years that I went through some of the same things that Jesus did, after He received the Holy Ghost in the mouth, when He was baptized by John. St Matthew 3:16 It only reads Jesus fasted 40 day and nights, it doesn't say how long He was in the wilderness. 4:1 "Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit)(Holy Ghost)
It reads that only those that become redeemed will understand the Gospels. St Matthew 13:10-11:25
My job as a Holy Ghost receiver is to basically deal with redemption or salvation. With out that, what does a person have? There are preachers that you think wrote the Bible but with out salvation what do they have? Most of them try and take the Gospels literally but Jesus said He spoke in parables. The reason for this He had to get to the cross.
Some make a good living in Prophesy. Some in St John 3:16 like Billy Graham the very backbone of several Christian? Religions. Some they say they are healers. Some would die for The acts 2:38 Some just grab a verse and write a book about it. Believe is the main stay of most all the missionaries in foreign countries.
Read Jeremiah 23:21-40
What do you think, if I would start preaching in a church when the congregation has heard all of the above their whole life. Most of them want to be with their Mother for eturnity, and sadly to say they probably will be, because the preachers have not received God's righteousness of being born again and the Holy Ghost. St Matthew 6:33
I have wrote at least five books spent over $70,000 of hard earned money without a basket, all for mankind but most people have just taken advantage of me in my endeavor because they don't believe me. To put it another way they just rip me off.
131 Adam I had several invitations to become a Christian in over two months that I started going to protestant churches sitting on the back seat. After the service I went to my favorite bar and dance hall, and a girl or two took me home with them. I had felt the convictive Spirit when I was a child, and that was what I was looking for at 31 years of age. The main question on my mind was "Is religion real?" One night When I walked in a new church a lady asked me if I loved Jesus, I said NO. At the end of the service I felt the convictive Spirit, and went to the alter, which most of them have been removed. Who needs an Alter when all you have to do is raise your hand to become a Christian. When I got up after I asked God to help me, the congregation was calling me brother. I went to a gas station with a pay telephone on an out side wall, to call my mother, and tell her I went to an alter, she was the wife of my Assembly of God minister dad when I was child.
She told me to pray for your dad and me. At that instant I must have believed in my heart that perhaps I could heal her. I felt a hit on my back, and something left my body to the right, My body caved in toward the middle. There was a stream of light that was entering my body from the left, and I found out later (by scripture) that God removed my heart that I was born with and replaced it. I quit drinking from the age of fourteen smoking sense twelve, and God put a fast on me for three days and nights. That was to get my body clean for the Holy Ghost to enter my mouth thirty days later. Jesus said you must be born again, but it is an allegory. Ezekiel wrote the allegory in plain language in 36:26-27
The question was asked where are the five books? They are self published books, that I never knew, no body would read except my mother or barried in amozone to the gills. The books very; from being out in the garage to only used as a means to rip me off. The last publisher said if I give them enought money They would re-edit two of the books (which the first editor was of satan, and only got the money) They would put new covers on them. The last book they would edit, cover, and publish, if I gave them enough money. If I gave them enough money a movie would take place, (I no a person in New York that does that) and if I gave them enough money a screen writer in California, will do a TV production. One of the publisher quit at one minute after the contract ended.
The nonfiction book called "Mutton's Decadence" by Elijah is In Amozon, the www.
https;www.amozon.com/Muttons-Decadence-Mick...
Why would Satan's children help getting the truth out to the public? St John 8:36-47 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is truth in him. When he speketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 44
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Matthew 11:13-14
13 For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John.
14 And if you are willing to accept it, he is the Elijah who was to come.
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Mickey is NOT willing to ACCEPT what Jesus said!
Tina wrote: "EZEKIEL Chapters 25-39A young lady cannot afford her school fees and you say you’ll only assist if she goes to bed with you, God is displeased.
Or someone is in desperate need of cash and brings ..."
Hi Tina,
My favorite verses is Ezekiel 36:26-25-27. How many ways do you think will get a person to the kingdom of God? To live with him for eternity? What if there was only one way, afterall there is only one God. The preachers say those verses mean if you are nice, give money, raise your hand at the proper time, give more money, pray a lot, run off at the mouth as in tongues, give money, slap each others back, live righteously, give money, drink wine as Paul said, give money, work out your own salvation, go by what Paul said, give to the building fund, give to the missionaries to promote St John 3:16, keep your legs crossed, receive the spirit after you bend over, Etc.. The verses don't mean what they say God couldn't possibly take a persons heart out and give them another from God. He is more into dinosours bigger then a house. putting the sun in the right spot. Making the birds that fly. Etc. I know the verses are about the Jews but you say, there are a thousand ways to live with God in His kingdom. Are there?
Hi Tina, When I was saved at a gas station, received the Holy Ghost in a 1959 wrecked Ford Thunderbird, after two years walking in His statutes, keeping His judgments, I saw an Angel, in a Sunday school class, and that same night was given the tree of life in my apartment. No wonder I don't go to any church there isn't any, at this present time. In the future I believe there will be but not now. Your beating on your own drum, and like everybody else I can't change the mind of those that belive the established false doctrine. It is Satan in the churches and not God. Isaiah 14:13-14
