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message 51: by Krista (last edited Aug 27, 2009 11:06AM) (new)

Krista (kacey14) Teresa wrote: "El wrote: "Teresa wrote: "Cait wrote: "El wrote: "Teresa wrote: "1) What Happened to Cass McBride? PROPER NAME?

2) A Garden of Vipers I found Garden City, NY on GOO..."


Teresa:
Bones of Betrayal A Body Farm Novel would also work for the Two Authors task (5.8) since Jefferson Bass is a combo of two writers.


message 52: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Hickman (lbhick) | 1535 comments Cait wrote: "Katie wrote: "Deliverance Dane is the name of a person, right?"

Dane is fine for a person's name."



I've read the book and Deliverance Dane is the actual full name of a suspected Puritan witch.



message 53: by Cait (new)

Cait (caitertot) | 648 comments Lisa wrote: "Cait wrote: "Katie wrote: "Deliverance Dane is the name of a person, right?"

Dane is fine for a person's name."


I've read the book and Deliverance Dane is the actual full name of a suspected Pur..."


Thanks Lisa, I didn't know that. So yeah, it would definitely work.




message 54: by Sam (new)

Sam (archieleach9) | 137 comments Cait wrote: "Teresa, I'll allow that one since GR has the book listed with "Body Farm" in the title, and when I looked up Body Farm online, every article had it as a proper noun (capitalized and referring to a ..."

Yes, it is definitely a place...very fortunately, I used to live directly upwind of the Body Farm.


message 55: by Teresa (new)

Teresa (teresainohio) Cait wrote: "Teresa, I'll allow that one since GR has the book listed with "Body Farm" in the title, and when I looked up Body Farm online, every article had it as a proper noun (capitalized and referring to a ..."

THANK YOU : ) I REALLY thought the challenge would deplete my TBR list, NOPE I have added to it : )

SO MANY BOOKS ..................


message 56: by Teresa (new)

Teresa (teresainohio) El wrote: "Sorry, Teresa, I didn't catch the Body Farm part of the title. I thought you were explaining that the story took place in TN which by itself wouldn't have worked. Don't mind me! At work with a h..."

{{{{El}}}}}} hope it gone soon, and maybe I should write my questions after my pot of coffee in the morning : )


message 57: by Sam (last edited Aug 28, 2009 03:28PM) (new)

Sam (archieleach9) | 137 comments Wouldn't you know that I've been working with my classes today on what a noun is?

Anyway, "heart," "grave," and "death" are all things, but, depending on how you use them, they could just as easily be considered an "idea." I'm probably overthinking since I've explained what makes a "thing" and thing and an "idea" an idea, but you tell me if any of those three words are okay for the third part of your challenge.

Book Titles, FYI:
The Girl with the Long Green Heart
The Gutter and the Grave
A Beautiful Blue Death


message 58: by Cait (new)

Cait (caitertot) | 648 comments Sam, all 3 are ok. I was iffy about death at first, but if time is acceptable (which I already ok'd), then death should be too.


message 59: by Sam (new)

Sam (archieleach9) | 137 comments Cait wrote: "Sam, all 3 are ok. I was iffy about death at first, but if time is acceptable (which I already ok'd), then death should be too."

Thanks...I meant to say earlier that I'd been explaining the difference between the two to my students today and it was fresh on the mind.


message 60: by Kay (new)

Kay (neenamara) | 71 comments Is King Arthur OK for the proper name? I'm guessing so, but I'm starting to question everything :)


message 61: by Terri (new)

Terri (terrisa-uk) | 222 comments Mr Y = proper noun? I think so but just making sure .....


message 62: by Cait (new)

Cait (caitertot) | 648 comments Mr Y and King Arthur are both ok.


message 63: by Wendy (new)

Wendy | 583 comments El wrote: "Katie wrote: "Deliverance Dane is the name of a person, right?"

I'm not familiar with the book itself, but I know "Dane" is a relatively common male name so that should work."

Deliverance is her first name and it is a great book too!!!



message 64: by Kay (new)

Kay (neenamara) | 71 comments I am loving this task, but there are so many options in my TBR pile, I keep changing my mind and coming up with new questions...

1. Is something that is actually a person, like "traitor" a thing?
2. Can an animal be a thing?
3. I was considering reading An Instance of the Fingerpost A Novel. Is a fingerpost a thing, even if I have no idea what it is?


message 65: by Bonnie (last edited Aug 31, 2009 12:05AM) (new)

Bonnie | 110 comments I think it's fun (and a bit funny) we all have to stretch our English grammar muscles on this one. It's almost existential. What is a thing? What is only an idea? Is this a thing, is that a thing? Much deeper thinking than I'm used to when choosing a book.

Nice task, Cait!


message 66: by Teresa (last edited Aug 31, 2009 02:44AM) (new)

Teresa (teresainohio) using dictionary.com

it states traitor is a noun hth

trai⋅tor  /ˈtreɪtər/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [trey-ter:] Show IPA
Use traitor in a Sentence
See web results for traitor
See images of traitor
–noun 1. a person who betrays another, a cause, or any trust.
2. a person who commits treason by betraying his or her country.


and using cow

cow1  /kaʊ/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [kou:] Show IPA
Use cow in a Sentence
See web results for cow
See images of cow
–noun, plural cows, (Archaic) kine. 1. the mature female of a bovine animal, esp. of the genus Bos.
2. the female of various other large animals, as the elephant or whale.
3. Informal. a domestic bovine of either sex and any age.
4. Slang: Disparaging and Offensive. a large, obese, and slovenly woman.
5. Offensive. a woman who has a large number of children or is frequently pregnant.


I taught this to my first grade children this for person place thing, PERSON is usually a human being
Place is somewhere you can go, and thing is anything you can touch, hth

so I would call traitor a person, ( not sure if it can squeeze in to a thing, I would say yes)
and cow is YES


message 67: by Kay (new)

Kay (neenamara) | 71 comments Bonnie wrote: "I think it's fun (and a bit funny) we all have to stretch our English grammar muscles on this one..."

I know! I thought it sounded so easy at first, but now look at me!


message 68: by Katie (new)

Katie | 4 comments Bonnie wrote: "I think it's fun (and a bit funny) we all have to stretch our English grammar muscles on this one. It's almost existential. What is a thing? What is only an idea? Is this a thing, is that a thing? ..."

LOL, that's the same reaction I had. I was sort of entertained by people's questions, then I started questioning myself. Deep thoughts.

@Kristina and Teresa: I think the person has to be a proper name, as in "Katie."


message 69: by Teresa (new)

Teresa (teresainohio) Katie wrote: "Bonnie wrote: "I think it's fun (and a bit funny) we all have to stretch our English grammar muscles on this one. It's almost existential. What is a thing? What is only an idea? Is this a thing, is..."

oh yeah that is true : ) but could traitor still fit under thing?




message 70: by Katie (new)

Katie | 4 comments Teresa wrote: "Katie wrote: "Bonnie wrote: "I think it's fun (and a bit funny) we all have to stretch our English grammar muscles on this one. It's almost existential. What is a thing? What is only an idea? Is th..."

IMO, no. This task came from the definition of a noun: a person, place, or thing. A traitor is a person, like a hero, or a banker. It's just not a proper noun. If it is a person, it can't be a thing, right? (Well...I can think of a couple of people, but that's not the point.) Think of it this way: you can say he is a traitor or she is a traitor, but not it is a traitor.


message 71: by Angeliki (new)

Angeliki (jelojelo) | 79 comments Hi! Is Madame Bovary ok for the person's name?


message 72: by Teresa (new)

Teresa (teresainohio) Katie wrote: "Teresa wrote: "Katie wrote: "Bonnie wrote: "I think it's fun (and a bit funny) we all have to stretch our English grammar muscles on this one. It's almost existential. What is a thing? What is only..."

LOL I really agree with this post. I have a few of those people too




Lyn (Readinghearts) (lsmeadows) Katie et all - I agree, and just when I thought I had person, place and thing down, now I have to decided what a rhyme is for Nicole's task. I feel like I am back in English class. LOL.


message 74: by Donna Jo (new)

Donna Jo Atwood | 2412 comments Lyn wrote: "Katie et all - I agree, and just when I thought I had person, place and thing down, now I have to decided what a rhyme is for Nicole's task. I feel like I am back in English class. LOL. "

As long as I don't have to spell too much, I'm in good shape--figuratively speaking. (There is that P.E. thing to factor in.)


message 75: by El (new)

El Angeliki wrote: "Hi! Is Madame Bovary ok for the person's name?"

Madame Bovary is a character's name, so yes, it would be a person's name.


message 76: by Cait (last edited Aug 31, 2009 03:54PM) (new)

Cait (caitertot) | 648 comments Kristina wrote: "I am loving this task, but there are so many options in my TBR pile, I keep changing my mind and coming up with new questions...

1. Is something that is actually a person, like "traitor" a thing?
..."


I have to agree with Katie, traitor is a common noun for a type of person (just like reader, teacher, liar, singer, etc.). It won't work as a thing.

Fingerpost is ok. (I had to look it up, lol. You learn something new everyday!)

I'm afraid animals aren't quite what I had in mind for the third part of the task. I was thinking more along the lines of inanimate objects/things. But I am allowing abstract nouns to be grouped into the thing category, so things like time, love, hate, faith, hope, etc. would be acceptable.




message 77: by Cait (new)

Cait (caitertot) | 648 comments Angeliki wrote: "Hi! Is Madame Bovary ok for the person's name?"

Absolutely




message 78: by Krista (last edited Aug 31, 2009 04:32PM) (new)

Krista (kacey14) Cait wrote: "Kristina wrote: "I am loving this task, but there are so many options in my TBR pile, I keep changing my mind and coming up with new questions...

Fingerpost is ok. (I had to look it up, lol. You learn something new everyday!)
..."


And being the total word wonk that I am I had to look it up too! :-) Just in case you were curious too, here's the definition.

Fingerpost:
1 : a post bearing one or more signs often terminating in a pointing finger
2 : something serving as a guide to understanding or knowledge




message 79: by Teresa (new)

Teresa (teresainohio) Lyn wrote: "Katie et all - I agree, and just when I thought I had person, place and thing down, now I have to decided what a rhyme is for Nicole's task. I feel like I am back in English class. LOL. "

LOL it took me a half hour on the lbirary website to find one to fit with a book on my tbr list, I dont NEED anymore on that list LOL




message 80: by Teresa (new)

Teresa (teresainohio) Krista wrote: "Cait wrote: "Kristina wrote: "I am loving this task, but there are so many options in my TBR pile, I keep changing my mind and coming up with new questions...

Fingerpost is ok. (I had to look it..."


thanks for sharing, I dont quite get the first definition,

and the second defintion doesnt make much more sense


message 81: by Petra (new)

Petra Teresa wrote: "Krista wrote: "Cait wrote: "Kristina wrote: "I am loving this task, but there are so many options in my TBR pile, I keep changing my mind and coming up with new questions...

Fingerpost is ok. (I..."


I think it's a Signpost, like they had in Mash, with signs pointing in every direction.


message 82: by Heather (new)

Heather | 384 comments Cait, for 25.8, would House of Leaves work for the "thing" part with Leaves being the thing?

Heather in KS


message 83: by Krista (new)

Krista (kacey14) Petra wrote: "Teresa wrote: "Krista wrote: "Cait wrote: "Kristina wrote: "I am loving this task, but there are so many options in my TBR pile, I keep changing my mind and coming up with new questions...

Fingerpost is ok

I think it's a Signpost, like they had in Mash, with signs pointing in every direction. ..."


That's exactly what I was envisioning too. A crossroads in the country (I'm thinking old England here...'Mash' works too...) and they have the sign post with multiple destinations pointing all over the place. They still have them Ireland. It sure confused me!!




message 84: by Cait (new)

Cait (caitertot) | 648 comments Heather wrote: "Cait, for 25.8, would House of Leaves work for the "thing" part with Leaves being the thing?

Heather in KS"


Just in case you don't see my response in the general questions thread, House of Leaves is ok.



message 85: by Teresa (new)

Teresa (teresainohio) Petra wrote: "Teresa wrote: "Krista wrote: "Cait wrote: "Kristina wrote: "I am loving this task, but there are so many options in my TBR pile, I keep changing my mind and coming up with new questions...

Finge..."


Oh Now I see it : ) A sign telling you which way to go in many different directions,

thanks



message 86: by Kay (new)

Kay (neenamara) | 71 comments Thanks Cait!

I love that I was able to fill all the parts of this task with books off my TBR pile! (Until I get tempted by a shiny new book with a proper noun in the title, that is.)


message 87: by Alice (new)

Alice (aliceg) | 424 comments Hi Cait would Brick Road count as a book with a place name in it as that is a specific road in London?


message 88: by Ruby (new)

Ruby (rubina310) Ok...This is what I have come up with for this task.
Does it work??

Person: The Castle of *Otranto*
Place: The *Guernsey* Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society
Thing: The *Kite* Runner



message 89: by Cait (new)

Cait (caitertot) | 648 comments Alice wrote: "Hi Cait would Brick Road count as a book with a place name in it as that is a specific road in London?"

Sure



message 90: by Cait (new)

Cait (caitertot) | 648 comments Ruby wrote: "Ok...This is what I have come up with for this task.
Does it work??

Person: The Castle of *Otranto*
Place: The *Guernsey* Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society
Thing: The *Kite* Runner
"


The place and thing books are fine, but I'm not sure about the person book. From everything I found online, Otranto is the name of a place, not a person.



message 91: by Ruby (new)

Ruby (rubina310)
ohhh...oops. In that case, I'll do the Diary of Anne Frank or Shosha for the proper name thing. Thanks!

Cait wrote: "Ruby wrote: "Ok...This is what I have come up with for this task.
Does it work??

Person: The Castle of *Otranto*
Place: The *Guernsey* Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society
Thing: The *Kite* Run..."





message 92: by Susan (new)

Susan | 682 comments Will "The Family Heart" work for the "thing" part of the task?


message 93: by Cait (new)

Cait (caitertot) | 648 comments Susan wrote: "Will "The Family Heart" work for the "thing" part of the task?"

That works.




message 94: by Jaclyn (new)

Jaclyn (jaclynr0806) | 22 comments I didn't think I'd have any questions about this task, but now everyone else's questions (and the subsequent answers) have made me think it's better to double check. Here's what I'm planning:
Person: Emma by Jane Austen
Place: Northanger Abbey by Jane Austen
Thing: The Graveyard Book by Neil Gaimen

I think these are all fine (and pretty self-explanatory), but please let me know if there's a problem with any of them.



message 95: by Cait (new)

Cait (caitertot) | 648 comments Jaclyn wrote: "I didn't think I'd have any questions about this task, but now everyone else's questions (and the subsequent answers) have made me think it's better to double check. Here's what I'm planning:
Per..."


Those are all fine.




message 96: by Patricia (new)

Patricia | 680 comments Would The Monsters of Templeton work for the 'place' portion of the task? Templeton, NY is a fictious town based on Cooperstown, NY? Thanks!


message 97: by Cait (new)

Cait (caitertot) | 648 comments Patricia wrote: "Would The Monsters of Templeton work for the 'place' portion of the task? Templeton, NY is a fictious town based on Cooperstown, NY? Thanks!"

Yes, that works too.



message 98: by Patricia (new)

Patricia | 680 comments Cait wrote: "Patricia wrote: "Would The Monsters of Templeton work for the 'place' portion of the task? Templeton, NY is a fictious town based on Cooperstown, NY? Thanks!"

Yes, that works too.
"


Thanks.


message 99: by JSou (last edited Sep 11, 2009 02:41PM) (new)

JSou Hi Cait! I was just wanting to check and see if The Double by Dostoevesky would count for the "thing" portion of the task.

I know it can be used as a verb or adjective as well, so I just wanted to make sure.


message 100: by Cait (new)

Cait (caitertot) | 648 comments Hey Jessica! It's funny, I was originally thinking this wouldn't work because I was thinking of the noun double as a type of a person. I was going to suggest swapping your books and reading Crime and Punishment for the noun task and The Double for the translation task.

I looked online though, and there were a ton of definitions for the noun double that qualified as things. So..... after that rather unnecessary and longwinded explanation, yes it would work. :o)


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