Fans of Angelfall discussion

Linnea wrote: "As a reader I don't think that the ending is going to be as magical as we all want it to be. And don't misunderstand me now, I think that it'll be some kind of cutesy stuff but we all know that aut..."

Like they can only be together in the afterlife - ie Penryn has to die. *insert evil laugh*

Well... I'm depressed now, THANKS...:(

Haha, aww, sorry!!

I pre-ordered mine already! :-)

Well, one thing making me hopeful is that Susan spoke in front of a school about "creating your own happy ending" and everything, and she talked about how she was touched by reader's that feel hopeful because of her books. She said that they could identify with Penryn's bad situation and draw hope from the fact that despite everything, there is the prospect of a happy ending for Penryn.
She also said that in her work, she likes to focus on the fact that (and this is a quote) 'dark times come before the happy ending'.

It's not a guarantee of course, but it did sound like it was an important aspect for Susan, that no matter how rough you have it, you have the chance to still get your happy ending.
So maybe we will get ours!

This is the link to the video, if you're interested:

Susan Ee talking about "The Future of Your Happily Ever After"

HurrikanKathrina wrote: "This is the link to the video, if you're interested:"

Thanks!

what does everyone think the startling revelation about Raffe's past is? i havent read the books in a while are the dark forces the hellions? they wanted revenge on raffe for protecting the wives and i wonder why it took him centuries anyway to hunt the nephillim, i really hope everything will be answered as well did raffe come down with Gabriel? because his timeline confuses me alot of the angels seem to not of seen raffe in sometime yet Uriel said Gabriel came down with two other archangels? and i doubt it was uriel himself hes not a warrior also whats up with Penryns mum is she a descendent of one of the wives? sorry so many questions

HurrikanKathrina wrote: "Well, one thing making me hopeful is that Susan spoke in front of a school about "creating your own happy ending" and everything, and she talked about how she was touched by reader's that feel hope..."

Thanks for sharing this Polly, really interesting stuff. I just wish the editing hadn't been so appalling it really put me off!

Mel wrote: "HurrikanKathrina wrote: "Well, one thing making me hopeful is that Susan spoke in front of a school about "creating your own happy ending" and everything, and she talked about how she was touched b..."

The editing for which?

drowningmermaid wrote: "Mel wrote: "HurrikanKathrina wrote: "Well, one thing making me hopeful is that Susan spoke in front of a school about "creating your own happy ending" and everything, and she talked about how she w..."
The interview with Susan Ee - The future of your Happy Ever After

I know, it's crazy. There's even a Dutch edition, but no German!

Maybe try reading it in English? It isn't that difficult! :)

Thanks for the video link, HurrikanKathrina!

By the way guys, have you seen Susan Ee's last retweet on twitter? It's a tumblr photo of a human girl with black wings. I wonder if it's supposed to mean anything. (?)

Here:



Susan rarely tweets and then she RTed this.

My brain is already jumping if it means something...eeee...what does it mean?

Some crazy s**t is going down in this book

Chapter5Books tweeted this today.

.@Susan_Ee is announcing something very exciting today! Keep your eyes peeled!


Maybe it's the cover???

Oh my god, she is going to announce something very exciting today????? What what what what? My eyes are peeled!

About the picture: What the eff is going on??? What does it mean?

She just announced it on her newsletter. The cover will be revealed this Friday by EW! With an exclusive Excerpt.

OMG! The cover reveal is going to be tomorrow!! Susan just postet it 13 minutes ago!!!!

Edit: And a snippet! OMG A SNIPPET!!!!!

HurrikanKathrina wrote: "OMG! The cover reveal is going to be tomorrow!! Susan just postet it 13 minutes ago!!!!

Edit: And a snippet! OMG A SNIPPET!!!!!"

I Just Saw That!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can't wait to see the cover! :) and read the teaser of course

JUST A FEW MORE HOURS BEFORE THE COVER REVEAL W/ EXCERPT OMYGOSH!!! CANNOT WAIT CANNOT WAIT!

I hope the excerpt is a Raffryn scene!!!

The Cover Reveal OF END OF DAYS (Angelfall 3)!!!!!!!!




http://www.ew.com/article/2015/02/05/...

Can't read the excerpt on my phone. :( :( :(

Paula M. of Her Book Thoughts! wrote: "Can't read the excerpt on my phone. :( :( :("

I'll Type it Up xD

If its not too much trouble! :P God bless your heart.

I read a tweet that the excerpt is kind of cruel.

It is heartbreaking!!!

HurrikanKathrina wrote: "It is heartbreaking!!!"

Totally Heartbreaking :(

I Have Typed Up The Exserpt xD

(view spoiler)[

“You're In Love with Him,aren't You?” Rasps Beliel.” You Think You're So Special.Special Enough to Catch an Archangel's Love.”

He Makes a Dry,Rattling Sound That I Think Must Be a Laugh.” Do You Know how many people have thought they Could win his love over the Centuries.That He'd Be Loyal to Them just as They were Loyal to Him?

I Know I Should ignore him. Nothing he Says Can Be Trusted. I Know That. But curiosity burns through me anyway.

I Turn and Lean on The Porch railing “What do You Know About Him?

You want to Know How Many Daughter's Of Men. He's Gone Through? How Many Hearts Do You Think Have Shattered Over Raphael,The great archangel???

You're Telling me he's a Heartbreaker?

I'm Telling You he's Heartless”

You're Going to tell me that he did you wrong??? that you don't deserve to be chained up like a rabid animal?

He's Not a Good guy,your Angel.. None of Them are

Thanks for The Warning” I Turn Back Into The House

You Don't Believe me. I Can Show You. He Says these words quietly like it doesn’t matter to him whether I Believe Him or Not.

I Pause at The Doorstep.

I'm not a big fan of Creepy Guys offering to Show Me Anything

That Sword You Carry Around Hidden Under The Stuffed Animal. He says. It Can Do More Then Look Shiny. It Can Show You Things”

I Get Goose-Bumps. How Does He Know???

I Can Show You What I Experienced at the Hands of The archangel You're So enamored with. We Just Both Need to be touching the sword.

I Turn Back Towards Him. “I'm Not Stupid Enough to Give You My Sword

You Don't need to give it to me. You can hold it while I Touch it

I look at him to see if there are any tricks. “why would I Risk My Sword just to see if you're telling the truth?

There is no risk. The sword will not allow me to lift it or take it from you. He's talking to me like I'm a idiot
'it'll be perfectly safe for you

I envision myself being in a memory trance within easy reach of Beliel. “Thanks,but no”

Afraid?

Not stupid

You Can Tie my hands,Chain Me,Bag Me,Put Me in a Cage. Do Whatever you like to ensure your safety from an old demon
who can't even get up on his own anymore. One You Do That. You Know The Sword won't Allow Me to Take it,So You'll be Perfectly Safe”

I Stare at Him,Trying to See Through His Game.

Are you really afraid of me harming you???' he asks Or. Maybe you just don't want to the truth about your precious archangel?? He's Not What He Seems. He’s a Liar and a Betrayer, and I can prove it. The Sword Won't Let Me lie-it doesn’t pass on pretty words. Just Memories”

I hesitate. I Should Be Turning Around to Leave, and he knows it. I Should be ignoring Everything he says.

But Instead, I Stand Rooted to The Porch (hide spoiler)]

I need the book. Right now.

I need the book. Right now.

Oh man...that excerpt though! Agh, what did Raffe do? I need it now! I need to know more...Darn it!

Right! It's all I can think of!!! I still love Raffe though!!!

OH MY GOSH THE EXCERPT. EVEN BELIEL IS AGAINST RAFFRYN. MY HEART IS BREAKING.

I WONDER WHOSE WINGS ARE THOSE IN THE COVER. BEAUTIFUL WINGS!

Those wings on the cover are feather wings, so that would mean Raffe's wings. But they look torn apart. :/
That worries me...

Yep, it totally looks like he falls...

I'm more worried about that excerpt though. Can we please discuss the fact that Raffe apparantly broke his "No daughters of men" rule many times before? Or what do you guys think Beliel meant with "went through" them?!

Here's some theories of mine.

Maybe Penryns dad was an Angel because remember Penryn said he "left" (maybe he went to hell because he fell in love with a "daughter of man"-Penryns mom) and that is why he isn't in the picture. If her dad was an Angel that means that Penryn and Paige have Angel blood and are hybrids which also means that Raffe has to kill them because he kills hybrids. Remember when Penryns mom had Penryn take self defense classes? Maybe part of them were to protect her from her mother but what if she had Penryn take classes to protect herself from Raffe? We have already seen Penryn can take down Angels at the politics party in book 2. Now, back to the Angel blood this also could make sense as to why Penryn can pick up Raffes sword and use it. (Because humans can't) and why Paige can control the scorpion men/ locus? Obviously Penryn and Raffe don't know this yet and maybe they will. I believe that if Penryn is a Hybrid it will be a turning point for Raffe too because if he is to kill her "if she is one" then he will want to protect her and he will have to go against everything he has known to what he feels for Penryn and Beliel knows how to use this to his advantage of the situation ( going back to the excerpt) and is just trying to get inside her head I mean maybe Raffe was ruthless and maybe to Raffe Penryn is different from other daughter of men and Raffe has changed a lot from book 1-2 because of how much they have gone through together. I think he has softened and changed and Beliel knows how to get between them and uses the sword and Raffes past to do so. But I believe Raffe will have to fight with himself from what he knows and was to who he is now and how this has changed him. Bringing up his choice to which side he will fight on in End of Days. Along side his kind or among Penryn and the others. I think Penryn could become an Angel based off of what Raffe told Penryn. That she would make a good Angel. I think the wings are either Penryns or Raffes. Meaning that if they are Raffes that he became the Messenger of God and perhaps he was granted Penryn as a reward for saving the world or something. I mean, Once you think about it it kinda makes sense.. I know the whole Penryn becoming an Angel is a long shot but it all makes sense when you fit pieces together. Any other thoeries?

Hmm...

there are a lot of people that think Penryn is either a Nephilim or will be turned into an angel. I don't think so.
Here are a couple of reasons why:

1) Susan Ee has stressed many times the importance of Penryn being human. When asked whether Penryn is Asian or not, she said that it didn't matter, all that mattered was that Penryn is "Human". Plus this part in Book 1, where Penryn says that she's proud to be a daughter of man. Because the humans are always insulted or called just as bad as angels, or unworthy in the books. And Penryn being human shows that humans aren't all that bad, and that although they are weaker than angels (physically) they can be better than them.

2) I absolutely DO NOT think that humans can be turned into angels, or angels were humans at one point. I think they are completely different races. Angels aren't just humans with wings. They have completely other biologies. Besides, if angels used to be humans, why do they condemn humans so much? it doesn't make sense. Raffe scoffs about evolution in book 1 and says he always was 'this perfect'. So, he wasn't a human and then evolved into an angel. Also, angels that get their wings cut off, aren't humans. They are still angels, just wingless.

3) It is never stated that humans can't lift angelswords. No one can, if the sword doesn't give permission. It did give Penryn permission, which is a rare thing, but that explains why she can lift the sword.

4) Penryn remembers her dad. She's not a half-orphan or anything. She remembers that he loved his job and left because he couldn't, at some point, handle her mothers crazyness anymore. So I do not think that he is an angel. She would've noticed.

Oh. Hmm yeah that makes more sense. I haven't read the books in awhile so my theories probably aren't that accurate with the books. Great points though. At least we can throw my theories out the window now.

Good God, that cover is gorgeous...

Katie wrote: "Great points though. At least we can throw my theories out the wi..."

Oh no, come on. Don't throw anything out of the window :D SO many people believe that Penryn could be Nephilim and I could be totally wrong. I just really don't think that she will become an angel.

However, she tweeted this picture of a dark haired girl with dark angel wings (see above, someone posted it here) so that kind of messes with my mind... So maybe... Penryn will become an angel??!

drowningmermaid wrote: "Good God, that cover is gorgeous..."

I Know Right?

If I sounded mad I wasn't lol you made some great points. :) I won't throw them out. Lol I'm really excited and they are just theories but it's just fun taking about them. :)

If I sounded mad I wasn't lol you made some great points. :) I won't throw them out. Lol I'm really excited and they are just theories but it's just fun taking about them. :)

No, you didn't sound mad :D I know, I'm just so freaking obsessed about these books, they are so.... asldkfjlasfhfj....

Right!! They are awesome!!!! :)

HurrikanKathrina wrote: "Yep, it totally looks like he falls...

I'm more worried about that excerpt though. Can we please discuss the fact that Raffe apparently broke his "No daughters of men" rule many times before? Or ..."

He didn't break his 'no daughter of men rule' as we know yet, all beliel states is that Raffe has daughter of men companions who wanted to wins his love, they were loyal to him but he wasnt to them, Beliel says raffe is heartless so i doubt raffe was doing anything besides Beliel seems surprised in the first book when he realizing how much Raffe cares for Penryn but i suppose Beliel did say he always thought raffe would become fallen, but for raffe to become fallen would be so out of character and he didn't like humans to begin with and Beliel is clearly trying to manipulate Penryn.

Also about Penryn being nephillim, i doubt it susan makes it clears she human.

I really hope Raffe doesn't become fallen i love raffryn but raffe is so much cooler as an archangel and badass, i really want him to get his wings and sword back.

I agree after reading what you guys have to say. Do you guys think Raffe killed the daughter of men? Someone asked what Beliel meant when he said Raffe went through them. Ism just wondering what that meant.