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message 51: by Jill (new)

Jill Hutchinson (bucs1960) | 3876 comments That slicked back hair, like Ricardo Cortez or Warren Williams, was quite the style. It actually looked good on some men especially if they had a good hairline.

Another thing we don't see anymore is the compact....the little case with the mirror that held face powder. No woman in the 30-40s would be caught without one and they used it at the dining table. Bad manners.


message 52: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3596 comments Mod
Good one, yea! But you really think hand-mirrors are less in vogue today? I see New York women using compacts practically every day on my morning train commute. All ages.


message 53: by Jill (new)

Jill Hutchinson (bucs1960) | 3876 comments Really? I haven't seen one for years but you would get more of a chance to observe since you make an urban train commute every day.


message 54: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

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It's a fascinating and even an ancient accessory. Cleopatra had a hand-mirror. I think civilization would teeter and topple, if women couldn't quickly check their faces for blemishes or mars.

I can tell you something else impressive, the deft manner in which a female can reach back behind her head and intricately braid her hair just by touch/feel alone. Some girls I see, definitely use their morning train-time to re-do their mops. But the nimbleness in separating a hank of hair into three separate strands and interlocking them in triplicate around each other, so that it stays perfectly in place all day long ---really, the cat's pajamas!

I am not much a fan of 'page-boy' haircuts, I reckon. Even on Audrey Hep; (or Dorothy Hamill) I'd rather see shoulder-length 'do!


message 55: by Jill (new)

Jill Hutchinson (bucs1960) | 3876 comments Sometimes hair-dos make the woman. Look at Veronica Lake.....once she dropped the shoulder length over the eye style, it turned out she really wasn't as attractive as we thought.


message 56: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3596 comments Mod
Wound up waitressing on the Bowery (although her denial was that she was 'doing research')


message 57: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3596 comments Mod
Nail salons and eyebrow salons are a huge business in my city


message 58: by Jill (new)

Jill Hutchinson (bucs1960) | 3876 comments Feliks wrote: "Wound up waitressing on the Bowery (although her denial was that she was 'doing research')"

And when she fell, she fell far. I have a weakness for cult films and Lake's last film, made sometime in the 70s was called Flesh Feast. It is so horribly tragic to see her....not only in a bottom of the barrel film (which was probably made for about $100) but the physical condition she was in. The effects of alcohol were so evident. I only watched it once and that was enough. A very sad ending to a career.


message 59: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

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Says something not just about Hollywood and not just about the USA but about the human condition.

When Redford reached the status of household name, a reporter asked him how he felt about the nonstop adulation. Remember, he started out just a southern-California hunk like thousands of others.

Not acidly or caustically, or bitterly ...but his calm, realistic reply was, "Where were they when I needed them?"


message 60: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

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There was an old catchphrase from the war years which went like this:

"Where were you ...in '42?"

(reminds me as well, of that coming-of-age flick with Jennifer O'Neil ...yowza).


message 61: by Jill (new)

Jill Hutchinson (bucs1960) | 3876 comments Something that has been around forever but has taken on a different role......blue jeans (or as I always call them, "levis"). Back in the day, they were only seen in westerns and sometimes rural settings (altho' those were usually bib overalls.) Now they are ubiquitous and are even worn with sports coats.


message 62: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

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What always confused me were the Levi commercials citing the founder of their product Claude Levi-Strauss. Famed anthropologist.


message 63: by Spencer (new)

Spencer Rich | 1142 comments I think Rebel Without a Cause was a major game changer for that.


message 64: by Jill (new)

Jill Hutchinson (bucs1960) | 3876 comments Good call, Spencer


message 65: by Doubledf99.99 (last edited Jan 18, 2020 03:34PM) (new)

Doubledf99.99 | 295 comments I think Eastwood as well.
And quite possibly McQueen and Bronson, in The Magnificent Seven.


message 66: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

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Three on a match!


message 67: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

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No hat on a bed!


message 68: by Jill (new)

Jill Hutchinson (bucs1960) | 3876 comments You still see these but not as often as in earlier times......bow ties.


message 69: by Betsy (last edited Jan 19, 2020 07:37PM) (new)

Betsy | 3455 comments One of the meteorologists on Weather Channel wears one frequently. They only look good on Dagwood Bumstead and with tuxedos.


message 70: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

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...and some tuxedos are just plain awful. like the ones on the Dean Martin roasts. Particularly those fat bowties atop white "ruffled" shirts, wide sleeve cuffs, and cummerbunds.

The tradition lives on today--for example, in my neighborhood there's plenty of wedding parties thronged with purple monkeysuits, bow-ties, wide lapels all matched with black loafers, ear-piercings, white socks, tattooes and faux-hawks.

And the men aren't any better attired either.


message 71: by Jill (new)

Jill Hutchinson (bucs1960) | 3876 comments :>)


message 72: by Jill (new)

Jill Hutchinson (bucs1960) | 3876 comments Remember the gold toothpick holders that all of the playboys seemed to have? Nothing more polite than picking your teeth at the table!!!!


message 73: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

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This is gossip I haven't heard. Never seen this habit myself. Do they carry the picks around with them, slip one in this holder and apply it? Or do they just carry the holder and fill it with picks supplied by the hostess?


message 74: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

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Prior to the arrival of the automobile, if you went 'out for a buggy ride' or 'just got back from a buggy ride' it was an elliptical way of suggesting you were out necking (aka, a 'petting party').


message 75: by Jill (new)

Jill Hutchinson (bucs1960) | 3876 comments Feliks wrote: "This is gossip I haven't heard. Never seen this habit myself. Do they carry the picks around with them, slip one in this holder and apply it? Or do they just carry the holder and fill it with picks..."

They have little cases that contain a golden toothpick which they furiously apply, sometimes at the table. Yuck.


message 76: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3596 comments Mod
And so they use the same pick repeatedly from one meal to the next? gah!


message 77: by Jill (new)

Jill Hutchinson (bucs1960) | 3876 comments Yep. You can understand why that fad didn't stay in fashion for long.


message 78: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

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I'm surprised today's rapper and hip-hoppers with their rotating bathrooms and revolving beds in their new Mc-Mansions, haven't brought it back into fashion?


message 79: by Jill (new)

Jill Hutchinson (bucs1960) | 3876 comments :>)


message 80: by Spencer (new)

Spencer Rich | 1142 comments My college age nephews like bow ties.


message 81: by Jill (new)

Jill Hutchinson (bucs1960) | 3876 comments That's neat. You don't see that very often.


message 82: by Jill (new)

Jill Hutchinson (bucs1960) | 3876 comments Cravats! Especially when worn with a smoking jacket at home. It looks so affected.


message 83: by Spencer (new)

Spencer Rich | 1142 comments Pepe Le Les always pulled off that look pretty well.


message 84: by Spencer (new)

Spencer Rich | 1142 comments Also, you gotta love Bogdanovich for keeping up the director with cravat look. You can see him in docs and DVD's from the 90's still sporting that look.


message 85: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (last edited Feb 02, 2020 11:37AM) (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3596 comments Mod
So true. Cravats and ascots. I also think of actor Jack Cassidy.

Anyway, ha! ha! Good catch


message 86: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3596 comments Mod
a 'nickel nurser'

aka, another term for 'penny - pincher'

('she squeezed a nickel so hard Jefferson hollered'
)


message 87: by Jill (new)

Jill Hutchinson (bucs1960) | 3876 comments Pocket watches on chains with a three piece suit. That used to be oh so sophisticated.


message 88: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3596 comments Mod
You would spring that one on us


message 89: by Spencer (new)

Spencer Rich | 1142 comments My grandfather on my mom's side collected them. Some kids burglarized them. Gold. Silver. Really sad.


message 90: by Jill (new)

Jill Hutchinson (bucs1960) | 3876 comments I have my grandfather's watch on display in my house. It is a lovely thing but doesn't work anymore.


message 91: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3596 comments Mod
give it the works


message 92: by Jill (new)

Jill Hutchinson (bucs1960) | 3876 comments How about when almost all men wore suspender or braces?


message 93: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

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AKA: 'galluses'


message 94: by Jill (new)

Jill Hutchinson (bucs1960) | 3876 comments Galluses!!! I haven't thought of that word forever. And I have seen men wear suspenders with a belt......seems a bit much.

And remember when men's suits were made with pleated pants? I don't think I have seen that lately. Although cuffed pants are still around.

Coming forward in time, probably the most offensive men's clothing item were those polyester leisure suits, usually in mint green or some other horrid color. And also the white belts, white shoes and checked pants. The cat's meow.


message 95: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3596 comments Mod
That's Herb Tarleck you're thinking of.

Although Lee Majors also sported a leisure suit. As did Terry Bradshaw.

Never wear white after Labor Day, yes?

Suspender and belt: that's "Mr. Boot" from 'Ace in the Hole'.

"You strike me as a careful man, Mr. Boot..." [Chuck Tatum, fifty dollar a day reporter]


message 96: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3596 comments Mod
bonus quote!

Henry Fonda in "Once Upon a Time in the West"

"Never trust a man who wears a belt and suspenders, he doesn't even trust his own pants"

Maybe we should launch a quote challenge quizzo


message 97: by Jill (new)

Jill Hutchinson (bucs1960) | 3876 comments Don't you dare......we can't get through the photo quiz!!!!


message 98: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

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Great Gosh-a-Mighty

Does anything top this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dole_Ai...

An utterly different age.


message 99: by Jill (new)

Jill Hutchinson (bucs1960) | 3876 comments Airplanes were less than reliable in those days......some people would call that brave, I would call it having a death wish.


message 100: by Spencer (new)

Spencer Rich | 1142 comments Glad you came up with those belt and suspender quotes. There's probably a lot more. I can't imagine Groucho passing that subject up.


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