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message 1: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (last edited Mar 03, 2020 09:41AM) (new)

Allison Hurd | 14221 comments Mod
What do you think the short list will be for Hugos? If you're nominating, feel free to share your slate!

(Note: This is not a place to convince people to vote one way or another. We're going to enjoy the fun that is guessing and talking about books that might make it.)


message 2: by Rachel (new)

Rachel | 1405 comments You can convince me! I can’t read all the ones I want to nominate.....


message 3: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new)

Allison Hurd | 14221 comments Mod
I know, so many!! I really just want to make it clear we're not going to push any specific agenda, definitely not for any sort of worldview anyone might hold, if you catch my drift.


message 4: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new)

Allison Hurd | 14221 comments Mod
I think I'd bet that

A Little Hatred
The Raven Tower
The Future of Another Timeline

will be shortlisted novels.

And
This Is How You Lose the Time War will be in the novella category

That's as far as I've gotten lol


message 5: by Benjamin (new)

Benjamin (beniowa79) | 383 comments No idea what will end up on the ballot this year, but my nominees for best novel were:

The Winter of the Witch
Children of Ruin
A Little Hatred
Supernova Era
Tiamat's Wrath


message 6: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new)

Allison Hurd | 14221 comments Mod
Oh, Children of Ruin, how could I forget!

I'm sort of hoping Winter of the Witch and Tiamat's Wrath don't make the short list. Not for any reason except that I'm supposed to try and read all the short list and I have only read the first in series for both, which would just EXPLODE what I had to read for them o.O


message 7: by Rachel (new)

Rachel | 1405 comments Oh! Right. Yes no organized coercion or ‘skate’ pushing


message 8: by Rachel (new)

Rachel | 1405 comments Yes The Raven Tower got 5 stars from me. I wish I had read so many other though!
I also liked Dead Astronauts but I’m still unsure about Future ...


message 9: by Gabi (new)

Gabi | 3441 comments My personal list would be:

Children of Ruin
The Future of Another Timeline
Atlas Alone
They Will Drown in Their Mothers' Tears
The Little Animals

But I guess the only one out of those with chances is "The Future of another Timeline"

I guess some of the for me more mediocre works will be there, like

A Memory Called Empire
The Outside
Gideon the Ninth


message 10: by Silvana (last edited Mar 03, 2020 10:41PM) (new)

Silvana (silvaubrey) | 2790 comments My own slate for Best Novel:
The Future of Another Timeline; Annalee Newitz; Tor Books
The Light Brigade; Kameron Hurley; Gallery / Saga Press
Luna: Moon Rising; Ian McDonald; Tor Books
Tiamat's Wrath; James S.A. Corey; Orbit
A Little Hatred: Joe Abercrombie; Orbit

I wish I could read Children of Ruin before the deadline but no discount until now.

Others
(view spoiler)


message 11: by Jain (new)

Jain | 92 comments Here's my current ballot. I'm on holiday for most of next week, though, so I may get more read and/or watched before the deadline.

Best Novel:
The Luminous Dead by Caitlin Starling
Unnatural Magic by C.M. Waggoner
A Memory Called Empire by Arkady Martine (Assuming I both finish it by Friday and continue to think it award-worthy when I've read the whole thing.)

Best Novella:
The Haunting of Tram Car 015 by P. Djèlí Clark (My absolute favorite SFF read of last year.)
Silver in the Wood by Emily Tesh
Serpent Rose by Kari Sperring
The Lights Go Out in Lychford by Paul Cornell
A Time to Reap by Elizabeth Bear (Link goes to the story online.)

Best Series
James Asher by Barbara Hambly

Best Dramatic Presentation - Long Form
Captain Marvel
Good Omens

Best Dramatic Presentation - Short Form
Hallelujah (Link goes to the vid on Youtube.)

Lodestar Award
Minor Mage by T. Kingfisher

Astounding Award
Caitlin Starling
Emily Tesh
C.M. Waggoner


message 12: by Jain (last edited Mar 07, 2020 01:12PM) (new)

Jain | 92 comments As to what I think will be on the ballot: I don't have any firm guesses for novel other than Gideon the Ninth.

For novella, I'm guessing To Be Taught, If Fortunate by Becky Chambers, This Is How You Lose the Time War by Amal El-Mohtar and Max Gladstone, The Haunting of Tram Car 015 by P. Djèlí Clark, In an Absent Dream by Seanan McGuire, and The Deep by Rivers Solomon.

BDP-LF will almost certainly include Captain Marvel and Avengers: Endgame. Good Omens might make the ballot here, or it might show up as individual episodes in BDP-SF.

R.F. Kuang is in her second year of eligibility for the Astounding Award and will probably be nominated again.


message 13: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new)

Allison Hurd | 14221 comments Mod
Hugo nominee slates are being accepted! Anyone have guesses/want to share their slate?

Please remember that we are not trying to GameStop the Hugos--this is a friendly fan discussion only!


message 14: by Rachel (new)

Rachel | 1405 comments Agh I feel like a ive barely begun my 2020 reading!! So many more I’d like to get to


message 15: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new)

Allison Hurd | 14221 comments Mod
also i just wanna say Jain was dead on last year!


message 16: by Silvana (last edited Mar 06, 2021 01:15AM) (new)

Silvana (silvaubrey) | 2790 comments My ballot as of today.
Disclaimer: I don't usually pick the ones ended up winning :D

Top four categories:

Best novel
The Vanished Birds
Vagabonds
The Relentless Moon
The Burning God
The Blade Between

Best novella
The Empress of Salt and Fortune
When the Tiger Came Down the Mountain
The Stone Wētā
Ife-Iyoku, The Tale of Imadeyunuagbon; Oghenechovwe Donald Ekpeki, part of Dominion: An Anthology of Speculative Fiction from Africa and the African Diaspora
I still have one slot left but the other novellas I read are just not on par with above ones.

Best novelette
A Whisper of Blue; Ken Liu
Convergence in Chorus Architecture; Dare Segun Falowo
Lone Puppeteer of a Sleeping City; Arula Ratnakar
Monster; Naomi Kritzer
Niuniu; Baoshu

Best short stories
Have Your #Hugot Harvested at This Diwata-Owned Café; Vida Cruz
The River of Night; Tlotlo Tsamaase
Lost in Darkness and Distance; Clara Madrigano
Red Bati; Dilman Dila
The Translator, at Low Tide; Vajra Chandrasekera

Other categories:
(view spoiler)

Not sure if I've time to think about the rest, usually I just wait for the nominees, read them, and then decide.


message 17: by Silvana (new)

Silvana (silvaubrey) | 2790 comments Updated my post. Looking forward to check out the others :D


message 18: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new)

Allison Hurd | 14221 comments Mod
that's a respectable list, lady!


message 19: by Christopher (new)

Christopher | 981 comments Sadly I haven't read that many eligible works, so I don't have much I would name.

I think at this point I'd only nominate The Book of Koli for novel. Other novels I've read published in 2020 were all 3 stars or below, at least IMO. (Those were Network Effect, The Ministry for the Future, The Vanished Birds, and The City We Became). I'd guess a few of those might be popular enough to get on the ticket, I think I'm likely out of touch with the Hugo zeitgeist. Still plenty of works out there I've yet to read, but I doubt I'd get to them in time. Not sure when the deadline is.

I don't think I've read anything eligible from any of the other categories.


message 20: by Silvana (new)

Silvana (silvaubrey) | 2790 comments Deadline: Pacific Daylight Time (PDT; UTC - 7) on March 19, 2021.


message 21: by Rachel (new)

Rachel | 1405 comments I also just haven’t read enough of my 2020 need to reads to really make a good list. Maybe need to prioritize them... I’d probably put The Doors of Eden on there hmmmm


message 22: by Kristenelle (new)

Kristenelle | 107 comments Ugh, I keep meaning to read Vagabonds! And I’ll push up the Blade Between on my priority list.


message 23: by Christopher (new)

Christopher | 981 comments Oh so not much time left, won't get to any more novels, maybe a novella or shorter works I might be able to get to.


message 24: by Silvana (new)

Silvana (silvaubrey) | 2790 comments Finalists have been announced

https://discon3.org/whats-on/hugo-awa...

Yep, my taste differs alot (again) with most voters ;p

Voting deadline is November 19, lotsa time to read the packet!


message 25: by Gabi (new)

Gabi | 3441 comments Silvana wrote: "Yep, my taste differs alot (again) with most voters ;p..."

Same! - and I've read most of the novels and nearly all of the novellas ... the free packet doesn't even do anything for me :(


message 26: by Rachel (new)

Rachel | 1405 comments What upside down world is this where the ones I’m most interested in are ... the YA non Hugo category???
None of my 5 star reads made it... this is a weird ballot


message 27: by Leonie (new)

Leonie (leonierogers) | 1222 comments Silvana wrote: "Finalists have been announced

https://discon3.org/whats-on/hugo-awa...

Yep, my taste differs alot (again) with most voters ;p

Voting deadline is November 19, lotsa time to read..."


Mine too, mostly.

Although I am a Murderbot fan, and I have just enjoyed A Wizard's Guide to Defensive Baking. But having said that, I'm a bit sad that Aurora Burning hasn't made the cut.


message 28: by Silvana (new)

Silvana (silvaubrey) | 2790 comments Gabi, the packet has lots to offer! I enjoyed the graphic novels, editors and zines, so many content. I don't think I'll buy many books until November LOL

Though I havent checked whether it is already accessible or not.


message 29: by Christopher (new)

Christopher | 981 comments Unexcited by the slate, but will try to work through it regardless.


message 30: by Gabi (new)

Gabi | 3441 comments If it is in the packet I will read Jemisin, but I guess I won't read Harrow the Ninth, even when it is for free ^^'.

@Silvana: graphic novels are also part of the package? That indeed sounds interesting. Cause this is a category I never buy on my own.


message 31: by Gabi (last edited Apr 14, 2021 09:19AM) (new)

Gabi | 3441 comments I mean... at least this line up makes voting easy XD. Let's see if I find some jewels in the novelette/short story list. There I've only read one short story and know none of the rest.

(and apparently you can't get your novella in if your are not published by tor.com XD)


message 32: by Silvana (new)

Silvana (silvaubrey) | 2790 comments @Gabi: Yes, GNs are parts of the packet! I held back from buying the Monstress one because I knew it would make the ballot haha

Novelette... Read three of them but I only liked Monster. For shorts, from the three I read I absolutely enjoyed Mermaid Astronaut.


message 33: by Silvana (new)

Silvana (silvaubrey) | 2790 comments @Rachel : I am also excited to read the YA finalists. Most of those are in my TBR but I still needed some push to read it.


message 34: by Rachel (new)

Rachel | 1405 comments I listened to Mermaid Astronaut at the zines oodcast I think sometime

The Amazing 8s game just cited on Elatsoe for Mays book and I got a hard copy from the library already


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