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Tammie wrote: "I've been struggling to remember what happened in the first book. I'm surprised I forgot so much of it when I just read it a few months ago. So far I'm feeling a bit detached from this one, probabl..."
The main part I remember is the end with the super evil monologuing... and finding out some old guy is basically immortal and ruling the country... trying to rule the world... I think it's the first emperor of the main country... and he was playing the role of Ambassador for the sand country I think... and doing stuff in the woods... feeding dissidents to the daytime Night Haunts... or something...
That's probably all jumbled and slightly wrong, but hopefully enough to follow... I think the MC and love interest escaped at the end and had to flee the country... join the resistance or something... or that's the type of plot that's going to play out in book 2, anyway...
The main part I remember is the end with the super evil monologuing... and finding out some old guy is basically immortal and ruling the country... trying to rule the world... I think it's the first emperor of the main country... and he was playing the role of Ambassador for the sand country I think... and doing stuff in the woods... feeding dissidents to the daytime Night Haunts... or something...
That's probably all jumbled and slightly wrong, but hopefully enough to follow... I think the MC and love interest escaped at the end and had to flee the country... join the resistance or something... or that's the type of plot that's going to play out in book 2, anyway...
Even with all I typed above, I'm a bit lost myself... maybe it won't matter much, since Part 1 jumps ahead a year?...

Yeah it might not. I was surprised when it jumped ahead so far.
OH YEA... Korvin... that's the love interest, right?... (view spoiler)
I think that's right... or I'm mixing my books...
I think that's right... or I'm mixing my books...
I'm approaching 50%, and still feeling a bit of that detachment you talked of... unless I'm mistaken, this book has a different feel to the first one, and is just overall depressing...
Timelord Iain wrote: "OH YEA... Korvin... that's the love interest, right?... [spoilers removed]
I think that's right... or I'm mixing my books..."
So uh... I think I drew this from another book... cause I started skimming some reviews, including a spoilery one... and apparently everything to do with Korvin just happened in the time jump from events in the prologue, before I fully grasped who all the characters were again...
I think that's right... or I'm mixing my books..."
So uh... I think I drew this from another book... cause I started skimming some reviews, including a spoilery one... and apparently everything to do with Korvin just happened in the time jump from events in the prologue, before I fully grasped who all the characters were again...

I managed 66% yesterday... will finish later today...
Plot finally started moving forward to it’s inevitable conclusion recently... not sure there’s been much to sell it with... the bar was low for me on this, and it hasn’t even really met those expectations...
Some reviewers lament the 2 time jumps, before and after the prologue, and wish this had been a trilogy instead of a duology, with an extra middle book... not sure if that would have really saved it, tho...
Plot finally started moving forward to it’s inevitable conclusion recently... not sure there’s been much to sell it with... the bar was low for me on this, and it hasn’t even really met those expectations...
Some reviewers lament the 2 time jumps, before and after the prologue, and wish this had been a trilogy instead of a duology, with an extra middle book... not sure if that would have really saved it, tho...

I went back and forth on reading this one myself, so the bar was pretty low for me too. I just didn't think it would have a completely different feel from the other book.
I doubt a third book would have helped. It probably would have just introduced unneeded filler, which is an issue a lot of YA trilogies have.
I lost a day... finally finishing today...
I know I was already predisposed to be unhappy with this book, after the lackluster start and long break, but this ending just feels like bullshit... random and unearned and a bit anti-climactic, for all it's a big battle...
I know I was already predisposed to be unhappy with this book, after the lackluster start and long break, but this ending just feels like bullshit... random and unearned and a bit anti-climactic, for all it's a big battle...
Let's see... (view spoiler)
I just kinda rambled alot in that spoiler tag... I think I covered most things... not sure how decipherable I was tho... but hopefully you get the gist of things coming out of relative nowhere tho...
I just kinda rambled alot in that spoiler tag... I think I covered most things... not sure how decipherable I was tho... but hopefully you get the gist of things coming out of relative nowhere tho...
Tammie wrote: "Thanks! I think I'm glad I quit."
The author did a bit better job piecing the info together than I did XD
If I wasn't so close to done already, from my first burst, I'm not sure I'd have cared to finish, either... hopefully our next BR is better...
Not sure what we're doing next, actually... Lady Sherlock is all caught up... we did the first book in that one series with the preppers... we have loose plans to try Shetland Island #4... and it's been awhile since we did a standalone... didn't we request a thread for something in July or August?...
The author did a bit better job piecing the info together than I did XD
If I wasn't so close to done already, from my first burst, I'm not sure I'd have cared to finish, either... hopefully our next BR is better...
Not sure what we're doing next, actually... Lady Sherlock is all caught up... we did the first book in that one series with the preppers... we have loose plans to try Shetland Island #4... and it's been awhile since we did a standalone... didn't we request a thread for something in July or August?...

These are the buddy reads I've got lined up for June, July and Aug. (Excluding the Lindsay Buroker ones, since I know you are not reading those.) Besides Peace Talks, I can't remember which ones you were planning to read...
June 17: The King's Traitor I'm behind on this one.
June 25: The Girl and the Stars
July 21: Peace Talks
July 27: Age of Empyre
July 28: The Sisters of the Winter Wood
Aug. 5: City of Bones
Seems like Soo zoomed through the preppers books already, so I don’t mind abandoning or delaying that one, either...
I know I’m signed up for Dresden and Winter Wood... City of Bones re-read was the August BR I was forgetting...
Still need to read the last LFE book, not sure if that’s Empyre or not...
I know I’m signed up for Dresden and Winter Wood... City of Bones re-read was the August BR I was forgetting...
Still need to read the last LFE book, not sure if that’s Empyre or not...

So reading above I am getting the feeling it may not be worth the time?
You can read the book, or read my mangled summary :D
Make up your mind after you read the first chunk of the book... post-prologue, the following chapters give a good idea of the tone of the first 66% of the book...
Make up your mind after you read the first chunk of the book... post-prologue, the following chapters give a good idea of the tone of the first 66% of the book...
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