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Shadow & Flame (Rime Chronicles, #2)
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Tammie | 5953 comments I'll be a little late starting this.


Tammie | 5953 comments I'm finally starting this. Who was planning on reading it with me? I can't remember.


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Timelord Iain | 35552 comments Mod
Me... join soon...


Tammie | 5953 comments I've been struggling to remember what happened in the first book. I'm surprised I forgot so much of it when I just read it a few months ago. So far I'm feeling a bit detached from this one, probably because of that.


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Tammie wrote: "I've been struggling to remember what happened in the first book. I'm surprised I forgot so much of it when I just read it a few months ago. So far I'm feeling a bit detached from this one, probabl..."

The main part I remember is the end with the super evil monologuing... and finding out some old guy is basically immortal and ruling the country... trying to rule the world... I think it's the first emperor of the main country... and he was playing the role of Ambassador for the sand country I think... and doing stuff in the woods... feeding dissidents to the daytime Night Haunts... or something...

That's probably all jumbled and slightly wrong, but hopefully enough to follow... I think the MC and love interest escaped at the end and had to flee the country... join the resistance or something... or that's the type of plot that's going to play out in book 2, anyway...


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Timelord Iain | 35552 comments Mod
Even with all I typed above, I'm a bit lost myself... maybe it won't matter much, since Part 1 jumps ahead a year?...


Tammie | 5953 comments Timelord Iain wrote: "Even with all I typed above, I'm a bit lost myself... maybe it won't matter much, since Part 1 jumps ahead a year?..."

Yeah it might not. I was surprised when it jumped ahead so far.


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Timelord Iain | 35552 comments Mod
OH YEA... Korvin... that's the love interest, right?... (view spoiler)

I think that's right... or I'm mixing my books...


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Timelord Iain | 35552 comments Mod
I'm approaching 50%, and still feeling a bit of that detachment you talked of... unless I'm mistaken, this book has a different feel to the first one, and is just overall depressing...


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Timelord Iain wrote: "OH YEA... Korvin... that's the love interest, right?... [spoilers removed]

I think that's right... or I'm mixing my books..."


So uh... I think I drew this from another book... cause I started skimming some reviews, including a spoilery one... and apparently everything to do with Korvin just happened in the time jump from events in the prologue, before I fully grasped who all the characters were again...


Tammie | 5953 comments Yeah that's him. I agree that this book feels different from the first one. Depressing is a good word for it. I'm not feeling all that interested even though I'm trying to be. I may end up giving up on this.


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Timelord Iain | 35552 comments Mod
I managed 66% yesterday... will finish later today...

Plot finally started moving forward to it’s inevitable conclusion recently... not sure there’s been much to sell it with... the bar was low for me on this, and it hasn’t even really met those expectations...

Some reviewers lament the 2 time jumps, before and after the prologue, and wish this had been a trilogy instead of a duology, with an extra middle book... not sure if that would have really saved it, tho...


Tammie | 5953 comments I'm 30% in.

I went back and forth on reading this one myself, so the bar was pretty low for me too. I just didn't think it would have a completely different feel from the other book.

I doubt a third book would have helped. It probably would have just introduced unneeded filler, which is an issue a lot of YA trilogies have.


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Timelord Iain | 35552 comments Mod
I feel like the middle book in most trilogies are barely relevant... like you said...


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Timelord Iain | 35552 comments Mod
I lost a day... finally finishing today...

I know I was already predisposed to be unhappy with this book, after the lackluster start and long break, but this ending just feels like bullshit... random and unearned and a bit anti-climactic, for all it's a big battle...


Tammie | 5953 comments I decided not to finish it. Can you give me the spoilers?


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Timelord Iain | 35552 comments Mod
Let's see... (view spoiler)

I just kinda rambled alot in that spoiler tag... I think I covered most things... not sure how decipherable I was tho... but hopefully you get the gist of things coming out of relative nowhere tho...


Tammie | 5953 comments Thanks! I think I'm glad I quit.


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Timelord Iain | 35552 comments Mod
Tammie wrote: "Thanks! I think I'm glad I quit."

The author did a bit better job piecing the info together than I did XD

If I wasn't so close to done already, from my first burst, I'm not sure I'd have cared to finish, either... hopefully our next BR is better...

Not sure what we're doing next, actually... Lady Sherlock is all caught up... we did the first book in that one series with the preppers... we have loose plans to try Shetland Island #4... and it's been awhile since we did a standalone... didn't we request a thread for something in July or August?...


Tammie | 5953 comments I didn't really like the preppers book all that much so I don't think I want to continue that one. I was planning on getting to the next Shetland book by the end of this month. I just haven't been in the mood for it yet. I would like to get back to reading the standalones when I get the time. I'll have to see how quickly I get through the next couple of books on my buddy read list.

These are the buddy reads I've got lined up for June, July and Aug. (Excluding the Lindsay Buroker ones, since I know you are not reading those.) Besides Peace Talks, I can't remember which ones you were planning to read...

June 17: The King's Traitor I'm behind on this one.
June 25: The Girl and the Stars
July 21: Peace Talks
July 27: Age of Empyre
July 28: The Sisters of the Winter Wood
Aug. 5: City of Bones


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Timelord Iain | 35552 comments Mod
Seems like Soo zoomed through the preppers books already, so I don’t mind abandoning or delaying that one, either...

I know I’m signed up for Dresden and Winter Wood... City of Bones re-read was the August BR I was forgetting...

Still need to read the last LFE book, not sure if that’s Empyre or not...


Tammie | 5953 comments Yes, that is Emypre.


Frank | 828 comments Oh crap I read the first book and just missed this one.
So reading above I am getting the feeling it may not be worth the time?


Tammie | 5953 comments I didn't think was as good as the first book.


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Timelord Iain | 35552 comments Mod
You can read the book, or read my mangled summary :D

Make up your mind after you read the first chunk of the book... post-prologue, the following chapters give a good idea of the tone of the first 66% of the book...


Frank | 828 comments Thanks Tammie and Iain.


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