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Overall I gave this a 3/5.
Ruth ware is still a favourite author cause The Turn of the Key and The Death of Mrs Westaway were ✨ fabulous ✨

P.S if this is your first Ruth Ware, I would definitely recommend giving her another chance with the turn of the key and the death of Mrs. Westaway.

The first 60% is classic Agatha Christie locked-room mystery, and the last 40% is a modern thriller; the transition between the 2 parts is janky at best. You lost the fun of guessing the murderer, and the character Liz simply became a maniac in the last bit (her demise is unintentionally funny than brutal).
I will check out more Ruth Ware though, cause I really enjoy her writing style.

This is indeed my first Ruth Ware, will def check out The Turn of the Key down the road—I actually really enjoy her core concept of reinterpreting classic narratives.





Do you think Ruth Ware intend the Liz reveal to be a 'twist'? Like you mentioned, it's pretty transparent very early on. This ambiguity definitely work against the book, but maybe the story is more about when Liz would 'crack', rather than guessing the killer? (playing Devil's advocate here)

I was not impressed with this from the beginning, well mainly I was just a bit confused having the learn all these characters. I was suspicious about Liz from the beginning without even trying to guess anything, so I agree with the above commenter saying that Liz’s reveal wasn’t supposed to be a plot twist. At least I don’t hope so because Ruth Ware is a better writer than that. The middle started to slightly peak my interest as the snow ball started to roll but it was still a basic three star for me. By the ending I kind of didn’t care anymore in which my personal rating would be a one star but maybe overall be a two because it’s not awful, I just didn’t enjoy it as much.
I’ve read all of this author’s books & have only liked two. Those being The Death of Mrs. Westaway & The Turn of the Key. I don’t know why I don’t care for all her other books but really enjoyed the two. Maybe someone could help me figure out why? Until then where I stand with Ruth Ware is I guess I just won’t read her books unless the summary sounds really good to me.


I love this author and will read more from her, but this book for me was a dud.


Also, I can’t help to think of why Liz is so intimidating lmaooo. Her method of killing isn’t something that requires strength or something. Maybe it’s Erin’s ankle, but if I was her I’d slap tf out of Liz. I’d grab the hot kettle and hit her head or something LOL.
This is my fourth Ruth Ware book and all the other books I’ve read of her were 2 and 3 stars rating for me, even The Turn of the Key didn’t impress me. I want to read The Death of Mrs. Westaway though, I’ve heard that one’s great.
Although I didn’t really enjoy the book, it still kind of entertained me, so I’d give it a 2 star.
I did not enjoy this at all. I was bored and annoyed and could not have cared less about anyone or anything that was happening. I DNF'd Ruth Ware's first book and after this, I think I'm done with her, unfortunately.

My biggest problem was I figured out Liz was the murderer right away. As soon as they brought up how many layers who wore skiing (multiple times) and then made a point to say exactly what Eva was wearing. It was just so obvious Liz was wearing another jacket underneath.
I think it would’ve been better with another POV in there. My friend read it before me and I kept saying I think it’s Liz, once it was confirmed I asked if she guess as early as me and she said “well it had to be Liz or Erin because they’re the only narrators” DUH I didn’t even put that together lol.

I read along with the audiobook (excellent narrator) but it didn't sound like a thriller until like 70% of the book. It was one of my most anticipated reads and I was disappointed.
But I must says that Liz's final chapter going down the snow was my highlight.


I felt the same exact way!!! I really wanted Eva to have faked her own death and go around knocking people off


It's great for author's to try new things, but I'm not sure this one really stuck the landing.

My thought exactly! Particularly regarding the 60% Agatha Christie


I absolutely loved it. One of my favourite books of the year! It was such a pleasant surprise. Read it in one day, which I hadn't planned to do. I had a bit of a book hangover afterwards. I found it to be so much fun.
I can see how this book isn't for everyone. But I think it really works for fans of 'classic' mysteries who want a book that's structurally and tonally a thriller while still retaining those familiar tropes and themes. As I read both mysteries and thrillers, this was just brilliant for me.
Did I guess that Liz might be the killer early on? Of course. Did I mind? Not at all. For me it's always about the how/why dunnit and how the story is told.
I also really liked all the different portrayals of friendship. From the broken (most people in the company), the messed up (Liz obvs) to the just lovely (Erin/Danny).
Those little cliffhangers at the end of each chapter were really effective! And I didn't even mind the 1st person, present tense narration as I found Ruth Ware's writing to be really good.
I read the eBook of this and a physical copy is most definitely going on the bookish wishlist.

I absolutely loved it. One of my favourite books of the year! It was such a pleasant surprise. Read it in one day, which I hadn't planned to do. I had a bit of a book hangover..."
I agree with your thoughts—I don't need every thrillers I read to have a big twist before the end (just like not every scary movies need to be The Sixth Sense).
I didn't rate this as highly as you (3 stars), but it was still thoroughly enjoyable. Ruth Ware is great at setting up scenario and mood.

The only other Ruth Ware book I have read was turn of the key, and I absolutely hated that book- so this was a pleasant surprise. It was also the book I've enjoyed the most in this book club :)
I figured Liz would be involved, however I thought her and Eva would be working together (and maybe inigo too). I think the motive could have been a little more interesting and the ending dragged but other then that I had a fun time!
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I enjoyed the setting and I liked the idea of characters being killed off one by one, but that’s about it.
None of the characters were likable and that’s a big thing for me. The motive for Liz was really weak.
Because she was looked over her whole life that she decides she needs to go to a ski weekend and just kill everyone? I get that Eva was blackmailing her but that was just weak in my opinion.
I also don’t understand why Danny and Erin had to be part of that ending with everyone else. Why did they have to see the video of Liz killing the guy?
This book’s writing felt rushed almost. Many of the dots disconnected. I was far more interested in how the characters all got to safety. It seems unlikely that two groups would have trekked out in an avalanche and make it safely. Yet they all did.
I’ve read better. This one is definitely my least favorite by Ware. I am surprised I prefer The Lying Game over another one of her books.

I liked the way she made up for the obvious killer by having a thrilling chase scene. (the skiing) I also liked that she killed Liz and didn't make Indigo the easy 4th kill with no explanation. I did like Danny as a character but I didn't really like anyone else...
What didn't you like?
I hated how obvious the killer was!! Like as soon as Erin found the key I was like YUP its liz...even thought I was hoping that the killer was Eva. I wish we learned a little more about Liz's family, as it was hinted at a lot throughout the book that her home life wasn't great...
How does this compare to other Ruth Ware books you've read?
This is only my 3rd Ruth Ware, but I just picked up most of the ones I haven't read at my library book sale so I guess I will have a better idea soon. I liked the Turn of the Key better than this, but this WAY better than they Lying Game.
Share your final rating and any other thoughts!
I said in the second post (125-250) that it would remain a 3 star if Liz was the killer with a motive of revenge because that's boring...but because of the excitement of the end, I actually found the chase to be thrilling....I have moved it up to a 4 star.




The only other Ruth Ware book I have read was turn of the key, and I ..."
How funny, it seems most people loved Turn of the Key and hated this one lol it just goes to show how different we all are as individuals... it's what keeps life exciting! I have yet to read Turn of the Key but I plan on that one next!


It had some flaws and plot holes but it kept me entertained. It made me want to read more by the author.

But above all, I LOVED the lack of romance being central to the story. Daniel and Erin's friendship was the backbone of this story for me and I'm pretty sure I would have rated this book a lot lower had Ware even tried to make them romantically inclined.

I started suspecting who the killer was early on, but I forced myself to be suspicious of everyone else because I was so scared of Ware trying to warp it into this whole "she's killing them because she's crazy"... but I have to admit that the way Liz's personality was warped once we really discovered who the antagonist was, really had me biting my nails... But I think I have Imogen Church to thank their narrative skills for that.

I enjoyed the setting and I liked the idea of characters being killed off one by one, but that’s about it.
None of the characters were likable and that’s a big thing for me. The mo..."
Now that you mention it... I'm kinda disappointed in the ending now too, because before the whole Liz discovery happened I kept wondering if Indigo had survived and how. If the other guys made it and how and if they fought along the way and if they ended up becoming so paranoid if the killer was among them that they'd kill each other. Like... I see now what I've been robbed of and I'm surely disappointed.

I didn't like that Liz sounded like a typical bad guy. This is the first full Ruth Ware book I've read and it was a sad book.


Unlike most people I hated the chase sequence. I really want books to be wrapped up quickly once the killer/bad guy is revealed.

I have to say I pretty much held my breath for the entire bit where Erin and Liz are alone, so there's that. Not sure about the ski chase, I just wanted it to be over at that point. I usually like my mysteries extremely cosy and not of the "head bashed in like an egg" type lol

There wasn't a twist in this story. I'm cool with that. It read more like a contemporary survival story, except the situation wasn't a natural disaster or being stranded, it was being trapped with a murderer.
This isn't my favorite Ruth Ware, but it is up there! I'll probably give this 4 stars because I loved her writing in this and the distinct voices and personalities of her characters (and I LOVE Erin and Danny's relationship! It made me so happy!).
I'm sorry to everyone who didn't enjoy it! I'm just glad I did. <3

I like your theory (and I think the book would have been better if that had actually been the intent of the author), but I think Liz being the killer really was supposed to be a big reveal. My evidence for this is all of the extra characters that didn't do much other than look ever-so-slightly suspicious--there was no point to most of them other than as red herrings.

Re: Liz being the killer not being a twist. I disagree. So I think there's an idea that the a twist has to shock you but imo, a good twist might shock you but it has to be built up still and there have to be hints. It's a twist because it's something that was hidden from the readers and then, once revealed, reframed how the story was viewed. That's how I would define a twist but I'm not a primary expert or anything. So to me, it doesn't matter if there were hints (and in my perspective they were pretty obvious but I was dissecting the story via genre conventions and not as it's own work) but how it functions on the story. I thought it was pretty well done but it didn't save the book for me.
My biggest issue was the fact that at the start and at the end, it felt like Ware was trying to say something about wealth and privilege and just... 1) completely dropped that theme in the middle, 2) undermined it with the stuff with the ceo dude at the end, and 3) never really explored it enough to actually say anything. And I just was frustrated by that given I was actually into the criticism that was being made.

So what I did is that as soon as the narrative itself tried to make a character seem like they were the killer, I crossed them off my list of suspects. There was a lot of suspicion that was thrown on almost every other character and in combination with little things like leaving right before Eva's murder and the fact that we last saw her with the woman was staying with Tiger (cannot remember her name).
For me, a lot of it was stepping back and looking at it from a writer's perspective. There's sorta an implicit bias for readers to trust the narrator and never suspect them unless given overt reason to, so that to me made Erin and Liz suspicious right away. It was just about rolling one of them out. But then Erin became far too obvious to be the killer so I shifted all my attention to Liz.
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